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Old 07-24-2008, 03:35 PM   #46 (permalink)
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In the book 'Scar Tissue' by Anthony Kiedis (RHCP singer) he's diagnosed with some sort of disease - hepatitis maybe? I forget. Anyway, it's one that affects the liver and he got it from sharing needles. He talks about how he used these organic 'liver-cleansing' herbs and took a trip to a body of water and just swam for a few days and took the herbs and relaxed - and he was fine after that.

Anyone have any idea what kind of 'herbs' he might have been talking about? I know this shit is hit or miss, and I'm not really concerned with the overall OMG SCIENTIFICALLY PROVEN TO BE EFFECTIVE part of it, I've just always been extremely curious/interested.
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Old 07-24-2008, 03:38 PM   #47 (permalink)
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Yeah I guess these teas that I make don't have jack or shit to do with Homeopathy according to wikipedia. Guess it helps to read a fuckin definition before contributing...
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Old 07-24-2008, 03:39 PM   #48 (permalink)
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No.

AirborneŽ Settlement

These people are having to pay back MILLIONS because the "clinically proven" claim was complete bullshit.


Vitamin C is in there and most likely the reason it does anything.

Vitamin C May Fight Colds After All



Whether their clinically proven claim is true or not I do not know or care as for me I do know that extra vitamin C helps me ward off most common colds or infections.




My claim is simply that there are some benefits to taking some supplements. That is all. No they don't magically cure you, no they won't prevent you from magically getting sick.

What they do is help put back some of the lost nutrients we are not getting from our processed foods. Most people eat like shit in this country and do not get the necessary vitamins they need. Most people do not drink enough water either.

Thats all I'm claiming.


Sorry for mis speaking one word in my post. I'll be sure the next time I'm on government disability and have all the free time in the world to look stuff up to do so.

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Old 07-24-2008, 03:41 PM   #49 (permalink)
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I don't think anyone argues that preventative health care isn't a good idea. The other word though, it's bullshit. Vitamins are great.
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Old 07-24-2008, 03:44 PM   #50 (permalink)
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Homeopathic remedies stem from the concept that if a substance causes the symptoms of the illness it helps prevent them.

You are confusing homeopathic and naturalistic as the big blob of "ignorant shit that hippies do."

A homeopathic cure for cancer would be eating asbestos and somehow it doesn't encourage the cancer but ends it.

Homeopathy had its place back when people would drink cocktails with viper's skin and whatever bullshit. It was a good, scientific practice that helped counter malaria and advance allergy medications and breakthroughs for how vaccines work. But the utility ends there.

A naturalistic or holistic cure for cancer would be drinking 10 cups of carrot-beet juice, etc.


Someone realistic just has the cancer removed via chemo and other extraction or tumor molding where they can coat the tumor with various materials that then allows extreme heat to be applied in a very localized area without destroying the surroundings.


My best friend had a cancerous tumor nestled in where the nerves at the bottom of his spinal column mesh with his ass. Luckily for him, his grandfather was the head of neurosurgery at Johns Hopkins and a very shrewd jew.

He cackled with glee at the thought of charging his own family money AND applying a deadly, unproven science to his grandson and had the tumor and cancer removed entirely via a series of laser and cobalt bombardment followed with chemotherapy which is largely used as post surgery to clean up any bordering cells. Any error in any of this would have left my friend, his grandson, paralyzed.

But of course Lumie has the right answers and can tell you them.

Ignore that there are some jews that are rich because they have fucking brains and people who really need help pay them a lot of money so that they stay alive.


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Old 07-24-2008, 03:47 PM   #51 (permalink)
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In the book 'Scar Tissue' by Anthony Kiedis (RHCP singer) he's diagnosed with some sort of disease - hepatitis maybe? I forget. Anyway, it's one that affects the liver and he got it from sharing needles. He talks about how he used these organic 'liver-cleansing' herbs and took a trip to a body of water and just swam for a few days and took the herbs and relaxed - and he was fine after that.

Anyone have any idea what kind of 'herbs' he might have been talking about? I know this shit is hit or miss, and I'm not really concerned with the overall OMG SCIENTIFICALLY PROVEN TO BE EFFECTIVE part of it, I've just always been extremely curious/interested.
Dandelions or Milk Thistle.
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Old 07-24-2008, 03:49 PM   #52 (permalink)
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Well, you may claim that taking vitamins supplements may be good (which is too wide of a claim to give you the thumbs up, as some are decently good prevension wise and others are just a bad idea) but don't claim homeopathy is anything but bullshit. There's virtually no active ingredient, or anything at all for that matter, beside the diluent in them (and this is the best case scenario). Clinical tests showed again and again that beside the placebo effect they do jack and shit (again best case scenario, some will actually make you sick, go figure).

Btw, if you have a hard on for vitamins (as you should), then skip the supplements and eat an apple.
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Old 07-24-2008, 04:50 PM   #53 (permalink)
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My mom went to see an iridologist or some shit. Apparently they look at your iris (eye) and can tell you everything that is wrong with the body. My entire family is doctors. I smacked my head and walked away.
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Old 07-24-2008, 05:01 PM   #54 (permalink)
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He cackled with glee at the thought of charging his own family money AND applying a deadly, unproven science to his grandson and had the tumor and cancer removed entirely via a series of laser and cobalt bombardment followed with chemotherapy which is largely used as post surgery to clean up any bordering cells. Any error in any of this would have left my friend, his grandson, paralyzed.

But of course Lumie has the right answers and can tell you them.
The body is 100% capable of removing cancer on it's own when it gets what it needs to do so and you eliminate the devices causing the cancer in the first place. Cancer doesn't form on it's own just because you have some bad genetics as you are lead to believe. Genetics are only a predisposition and not a guarantee. I would bet you anything that I could have shown you how to cure your friend without the need for any type of surgery nor any type of chemo(poison) therapy, which btw is a massive bath of toxic chemicals that damage both good and bad cells. This is why your hair falls out and you look like death when you are on this treatment. It is not the cancer that makes you look like this, IT'S THE CHEMO AND RADIATION.

What kind of logic is there when the thought process to curing a disease is by making you far unhealthier then you were in the first place? Wouldn't it be logical to change the life style into a far more healthier one?

Just because he's a super "smart" doctor and went to college for god knows how long, doesn't mean he is infallible. He is simply unaware of alternate methods of healing that are far more effective and also have no side effects and are far less dangerous and invasive(in fact completely non invasive). Does he know about Fucoidan?

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On or about February 17th I started taking between 12-18 capsules of Modifilan every day. Around the beginning of April, my scalp felt like a day's growth on an unshaved beard.
Yesterday, a friend observed that my hair is slowly growing despite the medication. Most importantly, my energy has returned and I feel that I'm getting better all the time. I trust in God to answer my prayers for a full and complete recovery.
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This stuff is scientifically proven to cure cancer and the cost for a full blown treatment of it is roughly 120$ and it works better than chemo and with zero side effects, in fact the side effects are only all good things!

Every vegetable has some known cancer fighting properties, especially broccoli. Spirulina and chorella are powerful anti-cancer foods too.
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Old 07-24-2008, 05:52 PM   #55 (permalink)
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He is simply unaware of alternate methods of healing that are far more effective and also have no side effects and are far less dangerous and invasive(in fact completely non invasive). Does he know about Fucoidan?
I know you're the forum retard and I'm feeding the trolls by even replying to a mindless buffoon like yourself, but I just wanted to point out how completely wrong you are. Show one double blind study in a medical journal that supports your statement that alternative methods are more effective at treating cancer than our current evidence-based medicine methods. Also, there is no such thing as effective treatment that has no side effects.
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Old 07-24-2008, 05:55 PM   #56 (permalink)
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I know you're the forum retard and I'm feeding the trolls by even replying to a mindless buffoon like yourself, but I just wanted to point out how completely wrong you are. Show one double blind study in a medical journal that supports your statement that alternative methods are more effective at treating cancer than our current evidence-based medicine methods. Also, there is no such thing as effective treatment that has no side effects.
Double-blind studies are a Zionist conspiracy and medical journals are controlled by the Illuminati.
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Old 07-24-2008, 05:58 PM   #57 (permalink)
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We have the power to remove any illness on our own, but the tormented souls of alien prisoners that were dumped into a volcano millions of years ago is preventing us from doing that.
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Old 07-24-2008, 06:07 PM   #58 (permalink)
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Luckily, nobody is forcing people to get chemo. You could always opt for homeopathic treatments. There was a report here about a woman who did just that and her hippy friends were so happy for her that she went the "organic" way. Of course she went from treatable breast cancer to having it spread all over. Maybe she just didn't "starve" the cancer enough.

But hey, people are free to do with their bodies as they wish and ignore medical advise if they think they know better. Of course the fact that the alternative is free and means the patient won't be claiming retirement benefits means it's profitable for the government.

Then again, maybe spreading rumors of a conspiracy is just ANOTHER conspiracy by the government to cut its expenses?
Not quoting this because I have an issue with your comment Soriak, aside from this one thing. Not all people have a right to not choose to take Chemotherapy. Children are given it by way of their parents as they don't have the right to decide. Not that I have a problem with that either, because as a child I had cancer, and documented that elsewhere on this board, and I had my fate decided by my parents and that was Chemo.

Which by the way worked just fine.

I point this out simply because, Fuck head people like Lumie are out there, and while no one will likely give a shit if this waste of oxygen fucks his whole life up and dies a miserable painful death, eventually he may procreate and the the greatest crime against humanity in the western world is that shit head people like this will force their children to share their same fate.

And it makes me fucking sick.
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Old 07-24-2008, 06:22 PM   #59 (permalink)
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Not all people have a right to not choose to take Chemotherapy. Children are given it by way of their parents as they don't have the right to decide. Not that I have a problem with that either, because as a child I had cancer, and documented that elsewhere on this board, and I had my fate decided by my parents and that was Chemo.

Which by the way worked just fine.
In fact, parents are being arrested for denying their children chemo therapy in search of alternative healing methods, so no, it's not quite a choice for some.

On another note, you would have also been fine had you taken an all natural approach to healing yourself, plus you'd have no long term damage done to your body as a result of poisonous treatments. The only reason you didn't die is because cancer cells are slightly weaker then regular cells and with chemo the idea is to nuke the body and hope the cancer cells die before the healthy ones, although both sustain heavy damage.

For instance, if you get scurvy you cure it by eating vitamin C. Scurvy, like ALL other diseases, are simply a deficiency of vitamins and nutrients. As soon as you take in vitamin C, the scurvy goes away quickly. Cancer is the same exact thing. As soon as the body gets what it needs the healing miracle can begin.
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Now all we need is a natural remedy to cure schizophrenia, because whatever that is, your body is in serious need Lumie. Let us know when you figure that one out.
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