McCain vs. Obama

[Kaio]

Originally Posted by Cad

Utnayan was 100% right about Vanguard, and I still think he is and was crazy.

I was mostly a lurker back then wondering if I had posting privileges but as I looked at shitty graphics posted by Utnayan and everyone else of vanguard (looked like noobish 3d modelers made some shit in bryce or something rather then real artists) I was wondering how people could even defend that shit.

But to me it does seem like Hillary's ability as a politician is no worse if not greater then McCain's. Obama simply trumps them all as he goes through with his dangerously pro-black/dumb wife, his name being Barack Hussein Obama, being black, Jeremiah freaking Wright, not wearing flag pin, etc.

Other then his recent "uhh" fest his ability to talk about policy with intelligence has increased. He can speak about our enemies in the middle east without mixing them up virtually every time like McCain. He can talk about economics without spewing random bullshit from his mouth like McCain did to avoid looking like a dumb ass when Ron Paul asked him a question. The only thing he said accurately about economics was the different committees he's personally been in as experience.

[Alamando]

Originally Posted by I'm Rich Bitch

I never said that. I am saying that he is a very strong politician. McCain and Hillary are not and have to resort to gutter politics to win. The very notion that McCain can win on policy is just so fucking stupid.

Instead of campaigning, McCain should just buy a TV station and run endless clips of Rev. Wright and ads of him saying "I am White. Obama is Black. I am White. Obama is Black.". He might win with that strategy. Policy my ass.

You're the reason I hate politics. Stop.

[I'm Rich Bitch]

I am absolutely fascinated with Intrade. This is a way to put your money where your mouth is. Current trades:

[Payndar Circusdorf]

Originally Posted by Kaio

[Obama] can talk about economics without spewing random bullshit from his mouth like McCain did to avoid looking like a dumb ass when Ron Paul asked him a question.

If you ever heard one of Ron Paul's economics remarks you'd stand there with your mouth open too. They were complete drivel.

[Burkex]

Why would anyone put another Republican in the White House at this time especailly after 8 years of Bush? Plus McCain sucks, he is GW Bush version 2.0.

[Soriak]

Originally Posted by Payndar Circusdorf

If you ever heard one of Ron Paul's economics remarks you'd stand there with your mouth open too. They were complete drivel.

No, no... you've just been indoctrinated by mainstream economists, which serve not the people but the world's central banks. (ran by Jews, of course) You're just a sheep for listening to them... "alternative" lifestyle, yo!

[AladainAF]

Originally Posted by I'm Rich Bitch

I am absolutely fascinated with Intrade. This is a way to put your money where your mouth is. Current trades:

lol yeah, the same intrade that had Clinton beating Obama by an even larger margin - 78% to 17%

[Soriak]

Originally Posted by AladainAF

lol yeah, the same intrade that had Clinton beating Obama by an even larger margin - 78% to 17%

Could have made quite a bit of money betting against Clinton then...

edit: actually, you're not betting on margins on inTrade. You bet on the odds of the candidate winning, which isn't the same.

[TOOL]

Originally Posted by Payndar Circusdorf

If you ever heard one of Ron Paul's economics remarks you'd stand there with your mouth open too. They were complete drivel.

Have you heard of The President's Working Group on Financial Markets before?



Apparently neither has Senator McCain. From what I hear, it was started by some obscure President named Reagan. I guess McCain kinda has a little bit of a mancrush on Reagan too. That's just a rumor though, don't put too much stock in that.

[Havelock]

Originally Posted by Burkex

Plus McCain sucks, he is GW Bush version 2.0.

Aside from McCain's demonstrated bipartisanship, his effective criticism of the Bush administration's colossal failure of a post-invasion Iraq policy, his fiscal responsibility, his ethics, his distinguished military and political careers, and numerous other differences, you may be on to something.

[I'm Rich Bitch]

Originally Posted by AladainAF

lol yeah, the same intrade that had Clinton beating Obama by an even larger margin - 78% to 17%

It shows the mood of the nation. You do realize that Hillary Clinton was Bill Clinton's wife and active in his White House? She is smart and politically motivated. Not only that but the Clinton name is the most famous name in politics only comparable to "Bush". Bill Clinton was the most popular and liked Democratic President outside of JFK.

At the beginning of this election would you bet for the "Clinton" name brand or some junior black Senator from the south side of Chicago named Barack Hussein Obama?

[Kaio]

Originally Posted by Havelock

Aside from McCain's demonstrated bipartisanship, his effective criticism of the Bush administration's colossal failure of a post-invasion Iraq policy, his fiscal responsibility, his ethics, his distinguished military and political careers, and numerous other differences, you may be on to something.

This is mostly true except the new John McCain is almost Bush version 2.0. He's been reversing his opinions on a lot of things lately.

[I'm Rich Bitch]

Originally Posted by Havelock

Aside from McCain's demonstrated bipartisanship, his effective criticism of the Bush administration's colossal failure of a post-invasion Iraq policy, his fiscal responsibility, his ethics, his distinguished military and political careers, and numerous other differences, you may be on to something.

The McCain you refer to no longer exists. He is lock step with Bush and his policies. Some call it pandering to the right but no one knows if it is just shameless pandering or he means it. He has a tight rope to walk by trying to keep those 20% of people who still like Bush (moderate Republicans/neo-cons), the conservatives, and moderate democrats/independents together in his coalition.

He would have an easier time keeping the Sunni and Shiite factions together in Iraq.

[Tenks]

Democrats flocking to an internet forum? Unpossible.

Obama is way too green (not environmental green) for my likes and I don't like his domestic nor foreign policies.

I predict something similar to the 2004 election. Everyone was saying how all these "young, savvy college kids" would come out to vote against Bush and it never happened. McCain by a large margin, imo.

Sorry, my generation is lazy. If its between sleeping in another hour or voting we're selecting the sleep.

[Payndar Circusdorf]

Originally Posted by I'm Rich Bitch

those 20% of people who still like Bush (moderate Republicans/neo-cons),

Moderate Republicans do not like Bush. At all.