[VG] Producer's Letter - Page 57

Grizzlebeard · 01-09-2008, 11:46 AM

How about Co-codamol? I pop those things like no tomorrow when I have a hangover / migraine.

Ravensign · 01-09-2008, 07:01 PM

Wrong Thread.

Snugglebear · 01-09-2008, 07:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Grizzlebeard

How about Co-codamol? I pop those things like no tomorrow when I have a hangover / migraine.

That's just Tylenol with codeine you stupid fuck, stop popping it with alcohol. It's even marketed as Tylenol 3 with codeine.

jayrebb · 01-09-2008, 07:48 PM

Tylenol has no place in narcotic medicine.

Your average Vicodin has 500mg Tylenol per 5mg of Hydrocodone (This should be illegal. How the government allows such an abusable medication to contain such high dose of toxins is beyond me). Some have 10mg hydrocodone and 500mg Tylenol.

It takes between 3-5 grams of Tylenol for acute liver damage.

Excess of 7 grams will cause acute liver FAILURE, resulting in your death.

The LD50 (dose to kill half the subjects its given to) of Tylenol is worse than any illicit substance. Tylenol also is a placebo painkiller, and has negligible actual effects.

Do not mix Vicodin and alcohol. And if you insist on doing opiates, open your wallet up and go with Oxycontin, which does not contain any contaminants. Tylenol has no place in your body.

Tyen · 01-09-2008, 08:03 PM

So how much tylenol is in a 1000mg Vicodin

jayrebb · 01-09-2008, 08:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tyen

So how much tylenol is in a 1000mg Vicodin

1 Trillion FDA approved grams.

DeNaut · 01-09-2008, 09:15 PM

For those of you whom doubt, everything Teclisen said was absolutely true. I ran far and fast from that Chinese sneaker factory. Nike has nothing on Sigil.

It is simply unfathomable to me how a company that received such a ridiculous number of hours of FREE labor could crash and burn so badly. Can you imagine how profitable any REAL company would be if their employees pulled 12-16 hour shifts almost every day and were only paid for 8? It takes some sort of heroic incompetence to so poorly run a project. I've seen kindergarten block building sessions with better organization and business tact. I think it is pretty obvious about which two people I am speaking of.

As for the tell all book, such and idea was bandied about jokingly during lunch on quite a few occasions. The working title was "How to Blow $40 million Dollars and Hate Every Second of It."

I am no longer in the industry and I never plan on going back. I make more money now and I work much, much less. It was a fools dream and I learned a hard lesson.

Laerazi · 01-09-2008, 09:18 PM

Book, please.

jayrebb · 01-09-2008, 09:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DeNaut

For those of you whom doubt, everything Teclisen said was absolutely true. I ran far and fast from that Chinese sneaker factory. Nike has nothing on Sigil.

It is simply unfathomable to me how a company that received such a ridiculous number of hours of FREE labor could crash and burn so badly. Can you imagine how profitable any REAL company would be if their employees pulled 12-16 hour shifts almost every day and were only paid for 8? It takes some sort of heroic incompetence to so poorly run a project. I've seen kindergarten block building sessions with better organization and business tact. I think it is pretty obvious about which two people I am speaking of.

As for the tell all book, such and idea was bandied about jokingly during lunch on quite a few occasions. The working title was "How to Blow $40 million Dollars and Hate Every Second of It."

I am no longer in the industry and I never plan on going back. I make more money now and I work much, much less. It was a fools dream and I learned a hard lesson.

What was your position at Sigil, if you don't mind me asking?

DeNaut · 01-09-2008, 09:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jayrebb

What was your position at Sigil, if you don't mind me asking?

I was a game designer. I worked on Teclisen's team for quite a while.

etchazz · 01-09-2008, 10:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DeNaut

I was a game designer. I worked on Teclisen's team for quite a while.

please, any good dirt you can give us from actually working there? i mean, we all know it was a clusterfuck, but exactly how bad was it?

Hachima · 01-09-2008, 10:14 PM

Who's big idea was it that you didn't need a scripting engine... =(

Tyen · 01-09-2008, 10:17 PM

I remember talking to Cylus, Rochelle, and Jerrith almost all the time when Vanguard was in pre-release, they where on aim 24/7 when in the office. Vanguard had TONS of people working around the clock. I bet Chinese gold farming shops held no candle to Sigil.

jayrebb · 01-09-2008, 11:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by etchazz

please, any good dirt you can give us from actually working there? i mean, we all know it was a clusterfuck, but exactly how bad was it?

Yes go ahead and throw some more dirt on the heap.

Grizzlebeard · 01-10-2008, 12:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Snugglebear

That's just Tylenol with codeine you stupid fuck, stop popping it with alcohol. It's even marketed as Tylenol 3 with codeine.

Funnily enough, I hadn't heard of Tylenol till reading this thread. Something to do with living in England and Tylenol being a US brand maybe. However, thanks for not being an ignorant prick and jumping to conclusions.

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01-09-2008, 11:46 AM	#841 (permalink)
Grizzlebeard The Littlest Hobo of MMOs Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Blighty! Posts: 844	How about Co-codamol? I pop those things like no tomorrow when I have a hangover / migraine.

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Ravensign misses Sand Giants and shit like that Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Derv 2 Posts: 765 +3 Internets	Wrong Thread.

01-09-2008, 07:48 PM	#844 (permalink)
jayrebb In a haze Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Cloud 9 Special Affairs Posts: 2,285 -182 Internets	Tylenol has no place in narcotic medicine. Your average Vicodin has 500mg Tylenol per 5mg of Hydrocodone (This should be illegal. How the government allows such an abusable medication to contain such high dose of toxins is beyond me). Some have 10mg hydrocodone and 500mg Tylenol. It takes between 3-5 grams of Tylenol for acute liver damage. Excess of 7 grams will cause acute liver FAILURE, resulting in your death. The LD50 (dose to kill half the subjects its given to) of Tylenol is worse than any illicit substance. Tylenol also is a placebo painkiller, and has negligible actual effects. Do not mix Vicodin and alcohol. And if you insist on doing opiates, open your wallet up and go with Oxycontin, which does not contain any contaminants. Tylenol has no place in your body.

01-09-2008, 08:03 PM	#845 (permalink)
Tyen The future, I came from it Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Portland, Oregon Posts: 3,660 +3 Internets	So how much tylenol is in a 1000mg Vicodin

01-09-2008, 09:15 PM	#847 (permalink)
DeNaut Registered User Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 2 +0 Internets	For those of you whom doubt, everything Teclisen said was absolutely true. I ran far and fast from that Chinese sneaker factory. Nike has nothing on Sigil. It is simply unfathomable to me how a company that received such a ridiculous number of hours of FREE labor could crash and burn so badly. Can you imagine how profitable any REAL company would be if their employees pulled 12-16 hour shifts almost every day and were only paid for 8? It takes some sort of heroic incompetence to so poorly run a project. I've seen kindergarten block building sessions with better organization and business tact. I think it is pretty obvious about which two people I am speaking of. As for the tell all book, such and idea was bandied about jokingly during lunch on quite a few occasions. The working title was "How to Blow $40 million Dollars and Hate Every Second of It." I am no longer in the industry and I never plan on going back. I make more money now and I work much, much less. It was a fools dream and I learned a hard lesson.

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Laerazi Registered User Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Earth Posts: 1,288 -2 Internets	Book, please.

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Hachima Registered User Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 2,081	Who's big idea was it that you didn't need a scripting engine... =(

01-09-2008, 10:17 PM	#853 (permalink)
Tyen The future, I came from it Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Portland, Oregon Posts: 3,660 +3 Internets	I remember talking to Cylus, Rochelle, and Jerrith almost all the time when Vanguard was in pre-release, they where on aim 24/7 when in the office. Vanguard had TONS of people working around the clock. I bet Chinese gold farming shops held no candle to Sigil.