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Old 05-15-2007, 07:47 AM   #166 (permalink)
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Does anyone really give a toss when a person registers on this board? I've been here since late 2003 but only registered in 2006 once my balls dropped.
Generally speaking, people with nothing of note to contribute.

Much as I could see VG was going to crash and burn, spare a thought for people called into the car park and told 'sucks to be you'. Here in the UK that would land the company in serious trouble (not that it isn't already but hey).
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Old 05-15-2007, 07:49 AM   #167 (permalink)
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Generally speaking, people with nothing of note to contribute.

Much as I could see VG was going to crash and burn, spare a thought for people called into the car park and told 'sucks to be you'. Here in the UK that would land the company in serious trouble (not that it isn't already but hey).
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Old 05-15-2007, 07:50 AM   #168 (permalink)
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Is this point where I say "I told you so" yet, or are we waiting for something more to occur?
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Old 05-15-2007, 07:51 AM   #169 (permalink)
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Maybe we should be having a heart and caring about Brad. Maybe he has a sickness...maybe that mental breakdown everyone jokes about really IS true and he's seeking help for it. Maybe he's developed a social anxiety disorder and can't leave his house. Or maybe he's in some psych unit in a straight jacket.

Wouldn't we all feel like the asshole then?






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Old 05-15-2007, 07:52 AM   #170 (permalink)
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Is this point where I say "I told you so" yet, or are we waiting for something more to occur?
I'm waiting for you to find a new purpose for your life. What will you do now?
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Old 05-15-2007, 07:53 AM   #171 (permalink)
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Is this point where I say "I told you so" yet, or are we waiting for something more to occur?
I wouldn't bother saying "I told you so". I'd say that the evidence speaks for itself, really.
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Old 05-15-2007, 07:59 AM   #172 (permalink)
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What about Brad? was he fired?.

Or is he in the Bahamas right now with all the monies made from the scam that was Vanguard?
Time to head back to EQ2 everyone. You know its the best MMO out there
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Old 05-15-2007, 08:00 AM   #173 (permalink)
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You are such an asshat.
Most people agreed with you and your little clique of spamming faggots. It was the way you guys would go on and on and on....
I'd wager a good chunk of people on this board saw exactly what you did - a shitty game with alot of hype. They just didn't need to post about it every damned 5 minutes.
You guys act like you have some kind of special powers or some shit. Get over yourself.
I normally hate when people do this, but:

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Old 05-15-2007, 08:04 AM   #174 (permalink)
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Time to head back to EQ2 everyone. You know its the best MMO out there
Wrong, that would be Eve.
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Old 05-15-2007, 08:07 AM   #175 (permalink)
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Wrong, that would be Eve.
I've always thought of Eve as a side dish.
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Old 05-15-2007, 08:07 AM   #176 (permalink)
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I've said it before and i'll say it again, EQ2's COMBAT FUCKING SUCKS. The rest of the game is decent, but the button-mashing, skill-spamming combat can't be made better. Comparing two shitty games to each other doesn't make one of them less shitty.
If you are truely spamming then you are doing something wrong. maybe it is different for other classes, but as a templar I don't have to spam anything.

When soloing I basically pull with a debuff, hit my HO starter and then the 2 DDs that complete the HO, with a reactive heal thrown in when needed. When I am in a group clearing trash, all I really do is put a reactive heal on the tank and wait for it to expire before refreshing. When we pull something big, I debuff it and heal when needed.

Never have to spam, never have to button mash. When I played my 70 warrior in WoW it was similar, start with charge, then wait for rage to build to hit MS, Hamstring, DS or HS among other things.

Now I will grant you for some classes there are many abilities that do similar things, but if you pay attention you know which few you actually use.

I still don't get the hate for the "Button-mashing. skill/spell spamming", cause I don't do it, nor do I see it anymore than a WoW rogue trying to get a skill off when building energy.
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Old 05-15-2007, 08:09 AM   #177 (permalink)
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EQ2's "button-mashing, skill-spamming combat" does serve the purpose of introducing player skill to a character. I don't think I've played any MMO besides eve where the person behind a character matters so much, even during mundane encounters.

DISCLAIMER: I quit EQ2 a long time ago, I might be wrong today.
Player skill? If by skill you mean some sort of finger-twitching, then yea i guess so. But there is absolutely no strategy as far as I can tell.
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Old 05-15-2007, 08:13 AM   #178 (permalink)
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heh, it's all but done and folks are still arguing over it. Vanguard will be remembered as the drama bomb of mmo's.
Amen to this. As Draegan said in one post "that game has been tainted by hate."

Really sorry to hear about any MMO hitting the shitcan but I have to say if it was any of them, VG had all of the signs. While comparisions between VG and Daikatana were a give in, I was seeing "Horizons" written all over VG from what I was hearing. Horizons, to me, was like walking through a field of shit to find a flower: the few good parts about it were completed surrounded by terrible, terrible design.

Honestly though, this reminds me of a post I read way way way back on the Lum the Mad forums. Smed was butchered there and Brad (for the most part) was treated pretty favorably; apparently Smed was blamed for all the bad in EQ at the time and Brad was given props for all that was good. Anyway, I remember a news post from "an insider" who stated that it was really Smed who was the driving force behind EQ's success and that Brad had no clue how to run a company or manage development of a product. Not saying if it's true or not, just saying it's..interesting concerning recent events.
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Old 05-15-2007, 08:13 AM   #179 (permalink)
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If you are truely spamming then you are doing something wrong. maybe it is different for other classes, but as a templar I don't have to spam anything.

When soloing I basically pull with a debuff, hit my HO starter and then the 2 DDs that complete the HO, with a reactive heal thrown in when needed. When I am in a group clearing trash, all I really do is put a reactive heal on the tank and wait for it to expire before refreshing. When we pull something big, I debuff it and heal when needed.

Never have to spam, never have to button mash. When I played my 70 warrior in WoW it was similar, start with charge, then wait for rage to build to hit MS, Hamstring, DS or HS among other things.

Now I will grant you for some classes there are many abilities that do similar things, but if you pay attention you know which few you actually use.

I still don't get the hate for the "Button-mashing. skill/spell spamming", cause I don't do it, nor do I see it anymore than a WoW rogue trying to get a skill off when building energy.
Never played a templar, i played a dirge to around 40 and rogue (or was it assassin?) to around 20. I was referring to that there is no global cooldown and I had at least 15 unique abilities (not counting songs) that had their own cooldown and all i was ever doing was hitting the skill when the cooldown was up...it was boring.
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Old 05-15-2007, 08:16 AM   #180 (permalink)
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I wouldn't sat the combat sucks, but they could do with some merging of redundant abilities for scout classes.
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