SOE to own VG - Sigil fires employees

[ProPain666]

Originally Posted by Larion

I agree and not =p Somehow I believe some "I told you so"'s are definitly deserved in this case, especially for the diehard vanbois.

And afterall since when have we not been a bunch of asshole knowitalls ?=)

There is nothing wrong about staying positive about a game, but Vanboys wouldnt even take a peek from behind the blinders they were wearing.


I’ve been saying Vanguard is doomed for a long time now, I’ve thrown out a few "I told you so" but it was far less satisfying than I thought it would be so I stopped.

The reason it doesn’t feel good is because Vanguard was our hope for a new non-WOW style MMO and it failed. In the end I enjoyed being right, but im also sad Vanguard couldn’t pull it off.

If SOE does buy Vanguard and re-launches the game please shut down the servers for about 1 month. Don’t bill anyone. Clean the bugs, re-open BETA for another month, Purge everything, open the flood gates with a free month.

If the above is done I will come back and try it out. If SOE buys it up and just does patches leaving the economy and dupes and exploited level 50 characters in the game I wont be returning.

[Kreugen]

VG had a good class system (but nobody really knows how it balances) and sweet huge dungeons. Now if you could cut out the other 95% of the game that is complete garbage, you would have something.

If only EQ2's combat/class/stat system were as good as VG's. I'd probably still be playing it.

[Sean]

The most amusing thing out of all of this is someone blaming the Unreal Engine.

That almost had me in tears. Tears of hilarity and sadness of the stupidity of the statement.

[Lenardo]

vg has some bright spots, their diplomacy game was good, their concepts were good.

the problem imo they had was they thought to broadly on implementation.

problem 1- game engine performance on the average players system wasn't good (bar set to high)
problem 2- world was too large- or rather they Developed too much world at once and didn't concentrate enough to make sure it all ran right and was Fun to play.

IMO dev's need to focus more on getting it right FIRST then expanding...Sigil built the world THEN went back and put stuff in-as we can see it didn't work that well.

i hope the employees/exemployees get jobs asap cuz losing your job sucks.

[Requiem]

The most amusing thing out of all of this is someone blaming the Unreal Engine.

That almost had me in tears. Tears of hilarity and sadness of the stupidity of the statement.

It was Microsoft imo, if all of the devs had used Linux we would be laughing about soe buying wow right now

[Cuppycake]

Originally Posted by Kendricke

Has it really come to "Our dev team can beat up your dev team?"

Hey, he started it.

*tattles*

[ProPain666]

Originally Posted by Sean

The most amusing thing out of all of this is someone blaming the Unreal Engine.

That almost had me in tears. Tears of hilarity and sadness of the stupidity of the statement.

Ohh I love that. I post alot of Silky Venom and ive heard that excuse as the reason the game is laggy.

Ive stated to these Vanboys its not the Engine its the way it was coded.... Sadly it falls on deaf ears.

[Requiem]

or SUN SPOTS... sun spots...
solar radiation in ur mmo
stealin ur subscribers

[Aphextwin]

Originally Posted by renaissance

May '05 speaks volumes.

Go away.

Does anyone really give a toss when a person registers on this board? I've been here since late 2003 but only registered in 2006 once my balls dropped.

[Wolfen]

Brad not being in the office for months makes sense. I commented in the past about something Brad said. Someone asked him about a certain big feature in the game and his response was: "I'll have to check with them and see what they're doing with it."

The man hasn't given a damn about Vanguard in a long time.

[Locithon]

Originally Posted by Cuppycake

I'm sorry, but you're really on your last leg if you're even going to compare VG with present-day EQ2. That's like putting a Scion with four bald tires and my grandma in the drivers seat up against a beautiful restored 69' Mustang. I suck at similes. Nonetheless, at least our game has a team dedicated to it - which is more than what you can say about yours. =P

I've said it before and i'll say it again, EQ2's COMBAT FUCKING SUCKS. The rest of the game is decent, but the button-mashing, skill-spamming combat can't be made better. Comparing two shitty games to each other doesn't make one of them less shitty.

[Nerion]

It's sad to see something like this happen to anyone who really invests artistic energy into a project. However, I have a big question, did they fire the GM's also? Hacking in this game is already really fucking bad. Without GM's I imagine some certain people will be having a field day ganking...

[Samflam]

Originally Posted by The Hiram Key

It's not a victory, it's vindication. Maybe some of you fuck-faces who spent hour upon hours attacking the people who were trying to warn you that the game was shit, will next time do a little less attacking and a little more personal investigation. Or at the very least, take the information that is being offerred, store it away in your head and keep it in mind once the game is released, before you essentially light your 50 bucks on fire and throw it out the window.

It's temptin to call out several of the more venomous attackers from the last 5-7 months (some of whom are posting in this very thread), whose tunes have completely done a 180 and now, suddenly, they can "see the light". You asshole's know who you are.

You are such an asshat.
Most people agreed with you and your little clique of spamming faggots. It was the way you guys would go on and on and on....
I'd wager a good chunk of people on this board saw exactly what you did - a shitty game with alot of hype. They just didn't need to post about it every damned 5 minutes.
You guys act like you have some kind of special powers or some shit. Get over yourself.
-Signed,
Someone who has never played, or ever considered, playing Vanguard.

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heh, it's all but done and folks are still arguing over it. Vanguard will be remembered as the drama bomb of mmo's.

[Requiem]

EQ2's "button-mashing, skill-spamming combat" does serve the purpose of introducing player skill to a character. I don't think I've played any MMO besides eve where the person behind a character matters so much, even during mundane encounters.

DISCLAIMER: I quit EQ2 a long time ago, I might be wrong today.