Well I was *NERFED* already~~

[kasey]

i deleted the hammer for two reasons,
1)The xp is really really bad.At least from my point of view it just sucks .It sucked before patch and its now totally useless.Guess i am spoiled,and grouping is much more fun anyways
2)Do you know what happens if people overaggro on raids, if we wipe because of a bad pull or someone dies because of a missed complete heal WHILE a cleric is meleeing ---------------------------------------> *WTF CLERICS STOP MELEEING AND HEAL FFS*
so i dont have to listen to stupidy like this for a toy that wont make me solo better and is just for fun (the last 2 days on raids it was pretty funky, getting old already tho :/)i just deleted the spell from my book.
And this is no flame or whine, i am happy as hell.These new heals just own and not meleeing on raids in situations where you could easily do it will prevent any troubles.
PS , if someone posts now you shouldnt melee while there is someone needing cleric attention i will scream,we actually can
estimate when to heal and when not :-)

edit, listen to cleric non2boxed.I couldnt have said it better.The dmg i can dish out stacking 3 dawncalls nonstop + 3 epitath of life all without any downtime is pretty good.Still the xp sucks,the highend clerics dont get much out of this hammer beside the fun
part.And to that guy who solos them 400ish hitting mobs near rhag1,one day i want to become uber as you hehe
/tap ancient hammer of judgment omgomg wru111

[Zelah]

while a wizard or druid kills 4 level 55 mobs in the same time

You do know that lvl 55 mobs have a thing called.. summon? As in 4 mobs are gonna beat the fuck out of that druid or wizzy as soon as they throw in their first nuke?

[Clericnon2boxed]

Ever been in ME ?

[LoneWar]

I said it before, and I will say it again.

If they wanted CLRs to solo they should have upgraded their undead nukes (And the Anti-Summon ones too while they are at it).

A CLR should flat out nuke the everliving fuck out of Undead good enough so that Wizards would be proud.

But it should ONLY be undead that they do that to.

Change they highest non vaporize undead DD to be like 2100 damage for 525 mana with a 5 second cast and instant recast.

Give a reason for CLRs to get Fury. Its not like any of them are ever going to respec evoc to match wizards.

But it does give CLRs the ability to solo back, in select places on select mobs, just like everyone else.

Clerics arent a Melee class, they arent a Hybrid either, they are a pure caster, and THEY SHOULD BE TREATED AS SUCH. Here's a hint, pure casters do damage by SPELLS. That stick in their hand is purely there for the effect on it, not to swing it. (Or stats in the lower end game)

[Searyx]

Maiden's Eye is the exception, not the rule.

[Frelance]

Also The Grey, Ssraeshza, The Deep, Fungusgrove, Acrylia, Akheva, Cazic Thule... hmmm, see a pattern? The summoning ability is no longer automatically given to 50+ mobs, it's even uncommon, on non-"boss" mobs. As a matter of fact, it's given to rare 49- mobs, too, those that ARE bosses.

[Anarchy]

Testing out my new leet avatar.
Wtf how do I change my custom title cuz its not under "edit profile" or "edit options."

[Searyx]

Uh...I'm pretty sure Cazic Thule MoBs summon.

[dak]

user cp --> edit profile --> Custom User Text

[Anarchy]

Tell me if ya see it.

[OG Dephton]

its under birthdate for me in that exact same screen. not sure why you wouldn't have the option.

maybe theres a queer filter on it or something 8P

[Vikki]

Originally posted by Clericnon2boxed
Utter bullshit, sure you soloed in SSRA vard huh ? 404 dmg hitting mobs unslowed, fantastic, did you chaincast CH on yourself ? or was there a shaman slower 2boxed out of the group ?

Saw it myself. They don't hit for max alot, and miss quite a bit. Celestial Elixir with the occasional Divine/Ethereal and he kept up with their melee pretty well.

Yeah I am sure you furor like the state of the cleric as your easy tool to gain exp solo (with an army of boxed characters behind you).

He wasn't multi-boxed. The only possible outside buff he could've had was BMB.

You have to realize that 25 procs for 75 - 150 dmg per fight ( 2 minutes) are about 2800 damage average. The same damage could be done via 3 Judgement nukes for each 925 damage for 975 mana (~780 with focus and SCM3) total, an amount that can be gained via medding during the same time.

You have to realize that the longer a fight lasts the less mana efficient it is to nuke as opposed to melee when you do roughly the same damage to start with. This is why the melee changes enabled Vard to solo in Ssra. He did melee damage (along with the other spells he mentioned) equal to what he would've done nuking, while also being able to heal himself, and STILL regen enough mana to where his mana percentage stayed higher than the hp percentage of the mob he was fighting, and that is all that matters to a class where more mana = more hp.

I am really wondering how pathetic paladin damage is when a paladin is not able to do 3 k (20 hits for 150 dmg each, lets see how much 50+ dmg weapons hit for) damage in 2 minutes.

Paladin melee damage isn't that great, for starters. Also, every level 60 Paladin does not have a 50+ damage a weapon. Yeah, a 50+ damage would outdamage that Cleric weapon.

Where do 50+ damage Paladin weapons drop?

Vulak, Tunare, Ssra...

Where does the Cleric hammer come from?

5pp off a vendor in Shadow Haven.

[kasey]

this is a highend board, it sux for highend clerics period.And to be honest i dont know one 60 pally in one of our 3 guilds on Ab doing VT/RoV/SSra/Emp/cursed and seru soon who doesnt have such a good weapon.Hell even non uberguild paladins get uberweapons easy cause they used to drop alot and drop in certain places a ton still.
Today i sold something in bazaar to a naked mule with one of these uber weapons )
And why the comparison to paladins again and again and again?Pally need what for a mushroom? i am told by several paladins 100-130seconds for one mushroom, took me 7minutes with my melee soo pally calm down
edit, server just went down .May be they will nerf again or change it or keep it where it is shrug who knows so hold back
flames for 2 hours please

[splok]

the cleric changes may have been a bad idea....BUT, there are underlying issues......

1. If the cleric changes needed to be nerfed, WTF did they go live? It was tested on test....I saw the parsed results....and guess what? They were the same results as people got once it went live.....and yet once going live, here comes the nerf bat. Why the fuck do they keep doing this?

2. Non-hydra clerics are about as rare as virgin catholic alterboys. The limiting factor in most guilds is their number of clerics....SOoooooo balanced or unbalanced, overpowering or not.....all classes should fucking jump for joy the second anything happens to make clerics more fun to play...Why? I wish i didn't have to spell it out.........but..........
HAPPY CLEIRICS = MORE ACTIVE CLERICS
MORE ACTIVE CLERICS = YOUR GUILD KILLS MORE SHIT
YOUR GUILD KILLS MORE SHIT = YOU GET MORE LEWT

have you hugged a cleric today?
stroke

[Grongl]

It gets worse...

Hammer of Divinity
Hammer of Souls