The New Armed Forces - Page 3

Fammaden · 09-29-2006, 11:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rythonn

Hazard pay is about $100 so as an e-1 you will be making like 700 a month and almost garunteed to be deployed 2-3 times and not always where you want. You'd make more at wal-mart.

You wouldn't have free meals, housing, utilities and bullets to the head though.

dak · 09-29-2006, 11:30 PM

Quote:

My point wasn't that the "BUSH LIED SOLDIERS DIED" lobby is right or wrong -- just that turning every thread into a fucking shitfest because it mentions Bush or Iraq is super fucking old.

No, the point is these threads "derail" into the "fucking shitfests" because it just so happens that many people base their opinion on all things war related around the fact that our commander in chief is a horrible mother fucker. A very reasonable approach given his magnitude of mother fuckery.

A board full of early 20 somethings are asked to talk about a dubious multi-front war and they respond with the the only perspective they know. blasphemy! Heaven forbid some of the rhetoric might sound the same. Wouldn't wanna violate the fucking sanctity of FOH general by treading over the same issue again with flagrant disregard for optimal efficency would we?

You dismissing it with some half assed little catch phrase like "BUSH LIED SOLDIERS DIED" doesn't change the fact that this issue is the driving factor behind many peoples views on all topics related to the military climate today.

What would you rather have in this thread? A sans dialog tally of yay/nay votes on if you would join the army to play mmorpgs? A bunch of mindless quips about the latency over there? How about a nice long rant about wasted tax money...or do people touch on that too much already?

If you don't like the scope of discussion regarding these issues feel free to make note of those individuals below your caliber of worldly knowledge on all things related to the current geopolitical climate and ignore them. Better yet, just go be a subservient and play MMOs in Iraq with your mouth shut. Maybe you will start to appreciate the constant reiteration when you get sucked back into a pointless war in Iran.

Rickshaw!

Zehn - Vhex · 09-29-2006, 11:31 PM

Ah, but you can belittle anyone who's never served in the armed forces which is one of the perks. Even the most retarded high school dropout can sign up for a tour of duty and then when he gets back can go around saying "Listen up you little shit, I risked getting shot so obviously my opinion on farming, video games and fine china is more valid then anyone elses." Getting to act indignant whenever people don't kowtow to your every whim is even on the brochure now I believe.

Arbiter · 09-29-2006, 11:40 PM

Trademark this somehow, this is made for rickshaw material.

Kolle · 09-30-2006, 12:38 AM

xilsharn · 09-30-2006, 12:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zehn - Vhex

Ah, but you can belittle anyone who's never served in the armed forces which is one of the perks. Even the most retarded high school dropout can sign up for a tour of duty and then when he gets back can go around saying "Listen up you little shit, I risked getting shot so obviously my opinion on farming, video games and fine china is more valid then anyone elses." Getting to act indignant whenever people don't kowtow to your every whim is even on the brochure now I believe.

I'm sorry you're fat =(

xilsharn · 09-30-2006, 12:45 AM

I can't believe this hasn't been rickshawed yet... perhaps one of the worst threads on any message board anywhere...

dak · 09-30-2006, 01:29 AM

Yeah, it is pretty awful

Bison · 09-30-2006, 01:40 AM

Mmmm..... Cake + Rickshaw = Happy Friday Night!

Deris · 09-30-2006, 02:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rythonn

Hazard pay is about $100 so as an e-1 you will be making like 700 a month and almost garunteed to be deployed 2-3 times and not always where you want. You'd make more at wal-mart.

More like 900 every 15 days+ Hazard Pay + Per Diem depending which base/service you are in, + Sea Pay if you are deployed as a Sea Going Unit (MEU/Etc.) + tax free zone.

I was making 3g's a month as an E-4, which isn't anything to omg about, but much nicer than I normally made.

Requiem · 09-30-2006, 02:38 AM

I'm gonna let this one brew for a bit... It's just too good.

Zehn - Vhex · 09-30-2006, 04:15 AM

I think the real question is would you what would you do if your commanding officer PK'd and then spawn camped you in STV.

Personally, I've always wanted to knock over a portapotty while someone was in it.

AngryDwarf · 09-30-2006, 05:57 AM

AF here, in tech school (MOS school for army folks) the schedule was 7:30-4:30 which was nice, but in the real world I work 4 12s a week as an intel troop (stateside).. doesn't really jive with a raid guild, but some people can pull it off. I would hardly think having the time to game would be one of your primary reasons for enlisting, though.

Big W Powah! · 09-30-2006, 09:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tripamang

Wooooooah.. back the fuck up, I'm not saying I would. What I am saying is the fact that you live somewhat of a normalized life overseas serving your country.. which doesn't necessarily mean you're on fucking patrol putting yourself in the line of fire. Does this by any means make the military appealing to other people? Most of the conviences of home, specifically a full fledged uncensored connection to the outside world. You're no longer isolated in a foreign place, away from the things you enjoy to do in your free time.

My main point of all this was to play devil's advocate to the conviences they're providing over seas now, there are people who are getting more free time then I am with more pay, while they're life is in some sort of risk on a day to day basis (not all of them are patrolling), they do get all the same conviences as me, and the time to enjoy it.

Does this make life in the military appealing to the guy who lives in mom and dad's basement with nothing but free time to play MMOs?

Haha, you said fledged.

Yes, thats how useless your post was.

If you think they get the same conveiences you're wrong. Yeah, they may get 16 hours of "off duty", but do you HONESTLY think 16 hours is spent playing games? You see, you get to come home to your family. You get to go sit around with your friends in a big group (minus the ones overseas, god bless their bravery), you get to see your WHOLE FAMILY AT ONCE, atlease those closest to you most likely..and you have what? 13 hours a day to do all of that?

They have 16 hours to sleep/eat/call everybody they want to talk to/write everybody they wanna keep in touch with/read all their e-mails/rest/sleep..That can't leave much tiem for WoW..

You don't seem to understand that in those 16 hours, they have to live the life you live all 24 hours a day. and its HARDER for them to.

xilsharn · 09-30-2006, 09:56 AM

As a married E-5 over 8 years of service I make about 2400 bucks a paycheck in Iraq. Plus I'm still not having to pay medical or dental bills, which would be huge for my family. So about $52k for the year I'm over there. Not bad, but not where I want to be financially.

Also, holy shit Tripamang you should be relegated to Rickshaw-only status for this thread.

09-30-2006, 01:29 AM	#38 (permalink)
dak You don't have to agree. Just know I'm right. Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: France Posts: 4,750	Yeah, it is pretty awful __________________ Stop being bad RIP Spiderman-Troupe 2002-2008

09-30-2006, 02:38 AM	#41 (permalink)
Requiem Site Administrator Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Portland, OR Posts: 1,259 +109 Internets	I'm gonna let this one brew for a bit... It's just too good. __________________ Requiem Alloria Mistweave Uberguilds.org, fohguild.org Site Administrator requiem@fohguild.org

Thread Tools
Show Printable Version Email this Page
Display Modes	Rate This Thread
Linear Mode Switch to Hybrid Mode Switch to Threaded Mode	Rate This Thread:

09-29-2006, 11:31 PM	#33 (permalink)
Zehn - Vhex Lord of the Dance Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 8,796 +166 Internets	Ah, but you can belittle anyone who's never served in the armed forces which is one of the perks. Even the most retarded high school dropout can sign up for a tour of duty and then when he gets back can go around saying "Listen up you little shit, I risked getting shot so obviously my opinion on farming, video games and fine china is more valid then anyone elses." Getting to act indignant whenever people don't kowtow to your every whim is even on the brochure now I believe.

09-29-2006, 11:40 PM	#34 (permalink)
Arbiter Registered User Join Date: May 2006 Location: Ohio Posts: 646	Trademark this somehow, this is made for rickshaw material.

09-30-2006, 12:38 AM	#35 (permalink)
Kolle Registered User Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 4,879 -25 Internets	...

09-30-2006, 12:45 AM	#37 (permalink)
xilsharn Definitely a chick Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: San Jose, CA Posts: 1,743 -4 Internets	I can't believe this hasn't been rickshawed yet... perhaps one of the worst threads on any message board anywhere...

09-30-2006, 01:40 AM	#39 (permalink)
Bison Shapeshifting Healbot Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 264 +0 Internets	Mmmm..... Cake + Rickshaw = Happy Friday Night!

09-30-2006, 04:15 AM	#42 (permalink)
Zehn - Vhex Lord of the Dance Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 8,796 +166 Internets	I think the real question is would you what would you do if your commanding officer PK'd and then spawn camped you in STV. Personally, I've always wanted to knock over a portapotty while someone was in it.

09-30-2006, 09:56 AM	#45 (permalink)
xilsharn Definitely a chick Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: San Jose, CA Posts: 1,743 -4 Internets	As a married E-5 over 8 years of service I make about 2400 bucks a paycheck in Iraq. Plus I'm still not having to pay medical or dental bills, which would be huge for my family. So about $52k for the year I'm over there. Not bad, but not where I want to be financially. Also, holy shit Tripamang you should be relegated to Rickshaw-only status for this thread.