*VERANT PLEASE READ* Resists...

Requiem · 08-09-2002, 09:38 PM

Up until now the resist bug over 255(ish) that is simply indesputable has been nothing more than an annoying inconvenience, but many of the high end characters of the game are now having to make sure they aren't going to go over 255 with items that are available to them on UNBUFFED resists, myself included. Something needs to be done. Either hard cap it at 255 like stats, or make it matter after 255. This absolutely MUST be fixed before planes of power, and should have been fixed with Luclin release when the items to achieve over 255 unbuffed resists became available.

Keystone · 08-10-2002, 11:41 AM

Wrathcaster · 08-10-2002, 03:02 PM

Destinae · 08-10-2002, 03:39 PM

kinuvan · 08-10-2002, 05:12 PM

As far as i know i have 256 rm unbuffed usually standing at 350 if a bard is playing ae resist and well,my resist rate doesn t change at all.My guess is its in your mind only.

There has been a lot of topics on bard board about this thing which all ended up in saying there was no roll over after 255.

Luthair · 08-10-2002, 06:16 PM

Roll-overs haven't happened since beta. They don't now either, Ester was quite clear on that...

Sepp · 08-10-2002, 11:16 PM

uh.. what? That doesnt happen anymore...
And posting VERANT PLEASE READ on a guild forum seems rather stupid to me =P Even if this is a heavy traffic forum.

Merauk · 08-10-2002, 11:18 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Sepp
And posting VERANT PLEASE READ on a guild forum seems rather stupid to me =P Even if this is a heavy traffic forum.

Calling the site admin stupid, is well pretty stupid to me :-(

Sepp · 08-10-2002, 11:34 PM

hah, yes, yes it probably was. Allow me to place my foot into my mouth now.

But in the words of a great man, I stand by all my mistatments?

Karae · 08-11-2002, 12:35 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Sepp
uh.. what? That doesnt happen anymore...
And posting VERANT PLEASE READ on a guild forum seems rather stupid to me =P Even if this is a heavy traffic forum.

It's not, when you consider the F A C T that multiple verant employees read this forum on a daily, nay, hourly basis. I'll call your attention to the mana cap fiasco. Where was that posted besides here? Exactly.

Though I don't know why he posted that...since Verant would obviously have read it anyway.

Requiem · 08-11-2002, 04:16 AM

And unless they have REALLY fixed it since the very end of Velious(well after they stated it was fixed), it is still an issue. Since that time(N ToV) I haven't really been in a position to test it many times since Luclin's release, but I 2boxed a 60 bard pretty much 100% throughout N ToV and I don't give a fuck what any of you say, it was broken until the last day of Velious. I suppose all of the Kunark spells were in the game from day 1 of Kunark and bards were working correctly the 10x Verant claimed they were too, right? I really don't feel like creating a presentation when it's so easily interally tested, so I'm not going to, but something is still definately fucked up. There has even been a few threads relating to it recently here on these boards where people have given some hard info.

Clique · 08-11-2002, 05:24 AM

As stated time and time again by the new Devs:

There are a few employees who are hired for the sake of scanning the most frequent boards, (Serverwide) in order to search for major bugs/complaints Ect. When that fails, and/or there were no major amounts of complaints/bugs or reports of the matter, it is Very easily overlooked as a fluke or a singular/confined complaint. Taken Care of via E-Mail, in which the item would be further reviewed in order to determine the seriousness of the said issue.

Point being...A post like this or any other- is more flaunting for attention rather than a change, whether intentional or not; or perhaps even to stir up flames, intentional or not.
If change is truly wanted, then I recommend you simply E-Mail the applicable parties. Believe it or not they DO listen...Just don't expect them to turn the world for you...Unless you are on stormhammer of course.

*Disclaimer* This is not a flame, is not intended as a flame and the fact I even feel the need to state this just goes to show the karma floating around here...

Melrin_Specclaster · 08-12-2002, 09:57 AM

For you complete dumbasses:

How many times has VI said 'this is working properly' to later say 'we found a bug'. To take the word of something working correctly as law from a VI employee is like reading something on the net and assuming it true. Or a in game male/female telling you they are not a mangiina and you believing it. There is a LARGE difference between what VI THINKS is working and what reality is, and thats what some of you are missing.

Clique · 08-12-2002, 11:14 AM

Rarely is any product ever perfect on the first try.

Some bugs do not show up while testing and therefore must be found during live play. This is where we come in. VI has no reason to believe anything ISN'T working as intended until you let them know otherwise. This ability is given through /feedback, /bug, and E-Mail. If you do not report a bug when you see it, Don't automatically assume someone else will. You have no right to whine, complain, or comment on anything regarding issues such as even a minor bug, unless you have tried to have it fixed through the proper channels. If you have tried? get more people to send the report or resort to e-mail. If it is just ONE or a few people having it, it is going to be on the bottom of the list versus a bug with 50+ people recognizing another.
It isn't that they are ignoring you...it is that why should they have any reason to rush to fix that bug when there are others they need to fix first, affecting so many more people. It won't be completely ignored...but it WILL be put on the back burner.

But if you don't /bug...dont email...etc?
It's like whining over the president when you didnt' vote.

Utnayan · 08-12-2002, 11:20 AM

Quote:

They don't now either, Ester was quite clear on that...

Ester was full of shit.

She also said cloth caps on the warders was working as intended (TM) as well as saying the card quests in POM were working when the vendor for the card combine wasn't even in fucking place yet. Than freaked out when Triton showed up in POM wondering how they got there, knowing the zone wasn't even close to being finished, even though she said it was.

She definitely sucked rocks, and is most likely still airborne from the door hitting her in the ass on the way out.

08-09-2002, 09:38 PM	#1 (permalink)
Requiem Site Administrator Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Cambridge, MA Posts: 774 +37 Internets	VERANT PLEASE READ Resists... Up until now the resist bug over 255(ish) that is simply indesputable has been nothing more than an annoying inconvenience, but many of the high end characters of the game are now having to make sure they aren't going to go over 255 with items that are available to them on UNBUFFED resists, myself included. Something needs to be done. Either hard cap it at 255 like stats, or make it matter after 255. This absolutely MUST be fixed before planes of power, and should have been fixed with Luclin release when the items to achieve over 255 unbuffed resists became available. __________________ Requiem Alloria Mistweave Uberguilds.org, fohguild.org Site Administrator requiem@fohguild.org

08-10-2002, 03:39 PM	#4 (permalink)
Destinae Fires of Heaven Officer Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 248 -1 Internets	eh?

08-11-2002, 04:16 AM	#11 (permalink)
Requiem Site Administrator Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Cambridge, MA Posts: 774 +37 Internets	I am well aware what Verant has stated... And unless they have REALLY fixed it since the very end of Velious(well after they stated it was fixed), it is still an issue. Since that time(N ToV) I haven't really been in a position to test it many times since Luclin's release, but I 2boxed a 60 bard pretty much 100% throughout N ToV and I don't give a fuck what any of you say, it was broken until the last day of Velious. I suppose all of the Kunark spells were in the game from day 1 of Kunark and bards were working correctly the 10x Verant claimed they were too, right? I really don't feel like creating a presentation when it's so easily interally tested, so I'm not going to, but something is still definately fucked up. There has even been a few threads relating to it recently here on these boards where people have given some hard info. __________________ Requiem Alloria Mistweave Uberguilds.org, fohguild.org Site Administrator requiem@fohguild.org

08-11-2002, 05:24 AM	#12 (permalink)
Clique "I like shiny Objects" Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Its Freaking cold...what else is there to know? Posts: 22 +0 Internets	Actually... As stated time and time again by the new Devs: There are a few employees who are hired for the sake of scanning the most frequent boards, (Serverwide) in order to search for major bugs/complaints Ect. When that fails, and/or there were no major amounts of complaints/bugs or reports of the matter, it is Very easily overlooked as a fluke or a singular/confined complaint. Taken Care of via E-Mail, in which the item would be further reviewed in order to determine the seriousness of the said issue. Point being...A post like this or any other- is more flaunting for attention rather than a change, whether intentional or not; or perhaps even to stir up flames, intentional or not. If change is truly wanted, then I recommend you simply E-Mail the applicable parties. Believe it or not they DO listen...Just don't expect them to turn the world for you...Unless you are on stormhammer of course. Disclaimer This is not a flame, is not intended as a flame and the fact I even feel the need to state this just goes to show the karma floating around here... __________________ "I just hate stupid people. Stupid people should have to wear signs that say 'I'm Stupid'..." -- Bill Engvall

08-12-2002, 11:14 AM	#14 (permalink)
Clique "I like shiny Objects" Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Its Freaking cold...what else is there to know? Posts: 22 +0 Internets	Merlin Rarely is any product ever perfect on the first try. Some bugs do not show up while testing and therefore must be found during live play. This is where we come in. VI has no reason to believe anything ISN'T working as intended until you let them know otherwise. This ability is given through /feedback, /bug, and E-Mail. If you do not report a bug when you see it, Don't automatically assume someone else will. You have no right to whine, complain, or comment on anything regarding issues such as even a minor bug, unless you have tried to have it fixed through the proper channels. If you have tried? get more people to send the report or resort to e-mail. If it is just ONE or a few people having it, it is going to be on the bottom of the list versus a bug with 50+ people recognizing another. It isn't that they are ignoring you...it is that why should they have any reason to rush to fix that bug when there are others they need to fix first, affecting so many more people. It won't be completely ignored...but it WILL be put on the back burner. But if you don't /bug...dont email...etc? It's like whining over the president when you didnt' vote. __________________ "I just hate stupid people. Stupid people should have to wear signs that say 'I'm Stupid'..." -- Bill Engvall

08-10-2002, 11:41 AM	#2 (permalink)
Keystone Fires of Heaven Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Your Mom's Bed Posts: 220 +5 Internets	.

08-10-2002, 05:12 PM	#5 (permalink)
kinuvan Banned Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 1 +0 Internets	As far as i know i have 256 rm unbuffed usually standing at 350 if a bard is playing ae resist and well,my resist rate doesn t change at all.My guess is its in your mind only. There has been a lot of topics on bard board about this thing which all ended up in saying there was no roll over after 255.

08-10-2002, 06:16 PM	#6 (permalink)
Luthair Registered User Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 876 +0 Internets	Roll-overs haven't happened since beta. They don't now either, Ester was quite clear on that...

08-10-2002, 11:16 PM	#7 (permalink)
Sepp Registered User Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 3 +0 Internets	uh.. what? That doesnt happen anymore... And posting VERANT PLEASE READ on a guild forum seems rather stupid to me =P Even if this is a heavy traffic forum.

08-10-2002, 11:34 PM	#9 (permalink)
Sepp Registered User Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 3 +0 Internets	hah, yes, yes it probably was. Allow me to place my foot into my mouth now. But in the words of a great man, I stand by all my mistatments?

08-12-2002, 09:57 AM	#13 (permalink)
Melrin_Specclaster Registered User Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 19 -1 Internets	For you complete dumbasses: How many times has VI said 'this is working properly' to later say 'we found a bug'. To take the word of something working correctly as law from a VI employee is like reading something on the net and assuming it true. Or a in game male/female telling you they are not a mangiina and you believing it. There is a LARGE difference between what VI THINKS is working and what reality is, and thats what some of you are missing.

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