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Old 07-07-2009, 11:35 PM   #1291 (permalink)
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I said I am best at well 66 and under. Why bring up level 70 into this. When I am level 70 talk about level 70's.

Ok ya its like 9.66 mobs per pull right now.

And you are comparing the number of characters I have and not the fact I am one person.

I am one person; you or whoever you compare me to is one person. Can any other one person; with level 66 or less characters beat me? And the answer is no. And then you say "but you have 36 characters" and I would say "ya well thats why I am better ....".

Just a simple question to answer can any single person in WoW, with character or characters level 66 or under kill mobs faster then I did in that log? If so show the link.

It also shows 11 mobs killed over 20 seconds, as well as 4 mintues with no kills. Thats kinda how aoe works ....

Aoe is area of effect; if I, or anyone, engage more then one mob at a time its considered aoe ....

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In theory ya but in practice with running out of mana and mob repop and all that its very questionable. Show me a 30 mintues or so log of some guy at level 66 killing a level 66 mob (or so) every 30 seconds for 30 mintues.

You guys just come in and bable we never see SS or logs or anything to support all these very questionable claims.
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Old 07-07-2009, 11:41 PM   #1292 (permalink)
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You can't kill AND MOVE to another mob in 30 seconds. If the mobs are in close then you will agro more then one and as a solo you will die. If the mobs are spread out then you lose to much time moveing to the next mob.

If you can take the hits then you are a tank class with limited healing and dps; if you have high dps then the mob might kill you; if you can heal you might not have enough dps to kill fast.
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Old 07-07-2009, 11:46 PM   #1293 (permalink)
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My point is that you cannot single kill mobs of equal level in this game (in the 60's) consistanly at a 30s each rate.

Thats means to mach me you have to pull multiple mobs at the same time. Which limits you to an aoe class which is most any class but you need more then cloth so that limits more; and you need a strong aoe spell. Probably only pal or dk (druid?) gonna work if at all. And you need a location that lets you pull 2-3 at a time every 60-90 secondsl.

All nice in theory but not going to work in practice.
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Old 07-07-2009, 11:49 PM   #1294 (permalink)
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Also Im not nowhere near my potential under 65; when my 20 some shaman hit 60 thats 4X more dps for me from thunderstorms. Ill double or triple my kill rate at that point. I might even kill at 5X my current rate cause I just move from spot to spot wiping all mobs out (I could use 1/3 then 1/3 then 1/3 to compensate for the cool down).
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Old 07-08-2009, 12:07 AM   #1295 (permalink)
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I said I am best at well 66 and under. Why bring up level 70 into this. When I am level 70 talk about level 70's.

Ok ya its like 9.66 mobs per pull right now.

And you are comparing the number of characters I have and not the fact I am one person.

I am one person; you or whoever you compare me to is one person. Can any other one person; with level 66 or less characters beat me? And the answer is no. And then you say "but you have 36 characters" and I would say "ya well thats why I am better ....".

Just a simple question to answer can any single person in WoW, with character or characters level 66 or under kill mobs faster then I did in that log? If so show the link.

It also shows 11 mobs killed over 20 seconds, as well as 4 mintues with no kills. Thats kinda how aoe works ....

Aoe is area of effect; if I, or anyone, engage more then one mob at a time its considered aoe ....



In theory ya but in practice with running out of mana and mob repop and all that its very questionable. Show me a 30 mintues or so log of some guy at level 66 killing a level 66 mob (or so) every 30 seconds for 30 mintues.

You guys just come in and bable we never see SS or logs or anything to support all these very questionable claims.
you wanna see that log? ill do it on my paladin right infront of you
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Old 07-08-2009, 12:15 AM   #1296 (permalink)
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I said I am best at well 66 and under. Why bring up level 70 into this. When I am level 70 talk about level 70's.

Ok ya its like 9.66 mobs per pull right now.

And you are comparing the number of characters I have and not the fact I am one person.
So under this new system you are the best as long as you outnumber and outlevel your opponent? 36 vs 1 I would certainly hope you could beat someone lower level.

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I am one person; you or whoever you compare me to is one person. Can any other one person; with level 66 or less characters beat me? And the answer is no. And then you say "but you have 36 characters" and I would say "ya well thats why I am better ....".
You aren't going to run in to too many boxers that will fit this criteria either, we don't hang out playing wow in the mid 60s. Really nobody does or ever has.

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Just a simple question to answer can any single person in WoW, with character or characters level 66 or under kill mobs faster then I did in that log? If so show the link.
I'm sure there are plenty of people that can do it at level as fast as you showed in your log. That log was pretty pathetic. The video you watched was a single 70 doing it many times faster then your 36 box team.

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It also shows 11 mobs killed over 20 seconds, as well as 4 mintues with no kills. Thats kinda how aoe works ....

Aoe is area of effect; if I, or anyone, engage more then one mob at a time its considered aoe ....
He knows you are aoeing. What you are doing is not the caliber of pulls you would expect someone running a raid size boxing group to consider aoe though.

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In theory ya but in practice with running out of mana and mob repop and all that its very questionable. Show me a 30 mintues or so log of some guy at level 66 killing a level 66 mob (or so) every 30 seconds for 30 mintues.

You guys just come in and bable we never see SS or logs or anything to support all these very questionable claims.
Once again we cannot de-level. I CAN fight indefinitely with no downtime ever though. At level you will be able to kill as many mobs as you show in that log with a single dk easy.

I just had a hilarious thought. All this crap you are talking about being best at 65. Just imagining how often you would have got owned if you were trying to do this in BC times. You would definitely still be working on hitting 61. You would be wiped non stop from the time you logged in until you logged out every day.
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Old 07-08-2009, 12:21 AM   #1297 (permalink)
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And you are comparing the number of characters I have and not the fact I am one person.

I am one person; you or whoever you compare me to is one person. Can any other one person; with level 66 or less characters beat me? And the answer is no.
You are god damned retarded... anyone level 65 can beat you, YOU ONLY KILL 2 MOBS PER MINUTE, THIS IS FUCKING HORRIBLE FOR MOST ANYONE IN THE FUCKING GAME, MUCH LESS SOMEONE PLAYING 36 FUCKING CHARACTERS YOU DENSE FUCK.
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Old 07-08-2009, 12:39 AM   #1298 (permalink)
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You can't kill AND MOVE to another mob in 30 seconds.
I do this all the time on my warlock.

Infact I usually pull 3 at once on purpose while running to the next three, and he's cloth wearing nothing but crafted/quest rewards. It has absolutely nothing to do with being 70+ it has everything to do with being effecient and gearing my character correctly via quests.

The reason you are so fucking retarded in the head, is because you've done zero quests, zero dungeons, and your army of gimps have missing slots, no items appropriate for a level 30 much less a level 60. Because of this, you somehow think no one can do what you're doing. In reality, everyone is laughing their fucking ass off at the fact that you think 36 characters killing 9 mobs every 4 minutes is anything more than something to be horribly ashamed of. This is why you have no hp, this is why you fail at pvp, this is why you divine shield when 9 mobs are on your paladin.

YOUR SHAMAN ARE GEARED LIKE MOST LEVEL 15s.

YOUR PALADIN IS GEARED LIKE A LEVEL 40 HEALADIN.

NO FUCKING WONDER YOU DIVINE SHIELD WHEN YOU PULL 9 MOBS.

Everyone else in this fucking game is amazed at how inept you are.

You site aggroing an additional mob as a death sentenceb? None of us go to zones that are 56 levels higher than the lowest character in our group, only you do that retarded shit. Furthermore, most of us at this point never die to pve outside of soloing 5 man group quests.

Nevermind that you could spend 3 hours with your 11's and 12's with your Paladin in fucking Ragefire/SM/wherver and get them 30+ in record time, but you're retarded it's not your fault. Go on killing level 68's for 1/10th your 12's level since it is faster.

Nevermind that everyone has repeatedly said questing is fastest, immediately followed by instance boosting.

Nevermind that you think 2 mobs per minute is good to split between 36 characters of any level. Your characters actually advance at 1/100th the rate everyone elses do, INCLUDING Prepared, INCLUDING Ghost, INCLUDING everyone else that ever boxed.
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Old 07-08-2009, 12:54 AM   #1299 (permalink)
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I KILLED OVER 9000 MOBS A MINUTE I WIN SAM BOW DOWN

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Old 07-08-2009, 03:17 AM   #1300 (permalink)
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Well as ususal not the slightest shread of proof of any of yur drivils.

Well seems good to me, if you say its bad well whatever, I just get better every day. Previously you said I was running away from BT and couldnt even exp there ....

Glo you dont have to delevel, just start 5 new dks and get them to 65 or 66 (should take you like 20 minutes if you quest from the way you talk). In fact any of you can start up a new dk and get him to 66 via quests in a day according to you guys and then attack me with him ..... you should win easy as you know how to gear your guy up right, and have da mad pvp skillz and he should have plenty of gold from your high level.
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Old 07-08-2009, 03:32 AM   #1301 (permalink)
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Sam you are the worst WoW player. Out of 11 million. Without a doubt.

That's also some sort of achievement.
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Old 07-08-2009, 03:43 AM   #1302 (permalink)
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My point is that you cannot single kill mobs of equal level in this game (in the 60's) consistanly at a 30s each rate.
As several people have pointed out, it's perfectly normal to kill a mob every 30 seconds SOLO while leveling. Without running out of mana.

Hell I farmed those mana wyrmlings in netherstorm for xp + primals + greens with my warlock and had 3 or 4 dotted up permanently and the only breaks I took were to take a piss or go for a smoke. Without running OOM.


Further, I'd like to add that as long as the number of player controlled characters is bigger than the number of pulled npcs, it's not AoE grinding. It's a fucking gangbang is what it is..


Someone could have started on the same day you did, leveled up 40 characters to lvl 80 ONE-BY-ONE, and still be ahead of you.
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Old 07-08-2009, 04:11 AM   #1303 (permalink)
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Glo you dont have to delevel, just start 5 new dks and get them to 65 or 66 (should take you like 20 minutes if you quest from the way you talk). In fact any of you can start up a new dk and get him to 66 via quests in a day according to you guys and then attack me with him ..... you should win easy as you know how to gear your guy up right, and have da mad pvp skillz and he should have plenty of gold from your high level.
Why should I have to make new characters? I'm not the one making any claims about anything. You are the one running off at the mouth about retarded shit. Why don't you level and show us what is what?

The fact is we all have characters that can roflstomp your gimp parade and there is nothing you can do about it accept run your mouth about being the best under 65 or whatever moronic crap you have come up with this week.

You are the best at being a bad, grats!
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Old 07-08-2009, 05:19 AM   #1304 (permalink)
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My point is that you cannot single kill mobs of equal level in this game (in the 60's) consistanly at a 30s each rate.
If you have decent gear, and know how to play, then yes you can. It helps that most people here rolled into TBC content with really good gear pre-xpac, but it isn't our fault that by comparison, you've geared yourself like a special needs child. SMV alone, I can remember several spots I soloed NONSTOP, on a warrior no less. I remember an orc cave, and there was a hill by the zone entrance with a ton of demons. I ran circles around that spot for hours at a time, until I couldn't stand it anymore. Charge, intercept, bloodthirst helped with downtime, I mean, other classes could have done so much faster or more at a time and I bet I could kill those low-HP demons at least every 20 seconds.

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You guys just come in and bable we never see SS or logs or anything to support all these very questionable claims.
What, exactly, do you want logs of? Do you really expect people to level a new character to 65, so we can hold your hand like a child and show you what we are saying? I'd give props to anyone who would actually go to the effort, because frankly if your too stupid to understand/believe what we are trying to tell you (which would help you, but you won't accept it) then you deserve to continue being bad at this.

You don't listen to us about anything. You could, you know, TRY some of it, but you are too busy failing. We laugh at your gear and have for some time, yet you refuse to put any importance on it, and I think your gear (or lack of it) is part of your problem. I can understand not wanting to invest in gear if you are going to level quickly, but you level so slowly I don't see why you are averse to it. All of us, I'm sure, had good gear at the time, and raped TBC content (PvE zones and quests), meanwhile your going at like half-speed with 36 characters.
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Old 07-08-2009, 05:27 AM   #1305 (permalink)
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an equal level kill every 30 seconds? Sam is right, I couldn't do that. I'd probably fall asleep due to all these 10-15 second breaks I'd have to take between fights.
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