Why all the nerd rage against Vanguard? - Page 47

Cuppycake · 03-09-2007, 02:52 PM

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Originally Posted by stevemcqueen

Lol that was my worry, the way Brad is promoting Vanguard, is scaring the shit out of me...........I see EQ2 in the horizon

FYI, EQ2 would be an upgrade.

Camerous · 03-09-2007, 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by xmod2

If you try to say "man wow sucks" in a wow thread, you don't get the same level of faggotry from their players.

You're fucking retarded. The biggest damn crybabies on this fucking forum are the WoW fanboys. But of course you are one of them so why am I surprised you would post something so stupid and utterly not true. If this wasn't a Blizzard cum guzzling board people like Ut, Itza, and Hiram would have been banned long ago, specially if they pulled their stupid shit in WOW threads over and over again like they have in every VG thread.

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Originally Posted by xmod2

Seriously the latest group of VG crusaders are the biggest fucking faggots I've ever seen on these boards and the fact that they're taken seriously makes me want to come here less and less.

We can only hope this part is true.

xmod2 · 03-09-2007, 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Camerous

You're fucking retarded. The biggest damn crybabies on this fucking forum are the WoW fanboys. But of course you are one of them so why am I surprised you would post something so stupid and utterly not true. If this wasn't a Blizzard cum guzzling board people like Ut, Itza, and Hiram would have been banned long ago, specially if they pulled their stupid shit in WOW threads over and over again like they have in every VG thread.

I don't even fucking play fucking WoW you fucking faggot.

Camerous · 03-09-2007, 03:10 PM

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Originally Posted by xmod2

Hey, that girl in the pic looks like this chick I'm fucking in my WoW guild.

Well if you don't you're a liar then.

Witoubo · 03-09-2007, 03:11 PM

At least for me the people who play VG are probably the main thing that kept me away from the game. Sure it wasn't finished and all the stuff that has been rehashed many times over. I would have given the game an honest shot if it's fans didn't come off so crazy. I can't imagine wanting to play an online game with these people.

Druixx · 03-09-2007, 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Witoubo

At least for me the people who play VG are probably the main thing that kept me away from the game. Sure it wasn't finished and all the stuff that has been rehashed many times over. I would have given the game an honest shot if it's fans didn't come off so crazy. I can't imagine wanting to play an online game with these people.

Ditto. That and the "Its the game for all you anti-WoW folks!" marketing and mentality.

Soygen · 03-09-2007, 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Camerous

Well if you don't you're a liar then.

I think that was a joke because that chick was "addicted to WoW".

Camerous · 03-09-2007, 03:18 PM

We probably wouldn't have liked you anyway.

Also why are the servers down?

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Originally Posted by Soygen

I think that was a joke because that chick was "addicted to WoW".

hhmm guess I missed the funny?

Faltigoth · 03-09-2007, 03:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Witoubo

At least for me the people who play VG are probably the main thing that kept me away from the game. Sure it wasn't finished and all the stuff that has been rehashed many times over. I would have given the game an honest shot if it's fans didn't come off so crazy. I can't imagine wanting to play an online game with these people.

I thought the same way, but due to a combination of weird factors - kindness from someone on this board (I know, wtf is that shit) and an old friend coming out of nowhere, I gave it a shot.

The people I've met on Hilsbury, at least, are not raving assholes. Quite the opposite, in fact. Its like they all evaporated when the beta ended, because God knows the general VG beta chat made Barrens chat look like a Mensa meeting while I was there.

stevemcqueen · 03-09-2007, 03:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Broham

Stopped reading here. You're full of shit, sir. A casual player, pre-TBC especially, felt the pain of having hardcores in the game. A player with ZG gear was severely outclassed by an AQ/Naxx raider. Such is the nature of MMOG's, people who play more, get more out of the game. It's just a fact. "Casual" players just won't get the same fulfillment out of an MMOG that a hardcore/raider type will get. Sure, now it's almost possible in WoW with the Arena PVP system, but in 6 months-time, when BT and Hyjal are out and the raiders are all sporting tier 6, you will still be sporting *at best* a few Heroic items. Good luck in an arena match against a T6 team.

This genre just doesn't support a casual playstyle.

Chill out a bit bro.
I understand where you coming from, and I agree with all you say, but you miss my point.
Of course after hitting 60 you need to throw yourself full on into raiding and PVP-BG if you want to get the ultimate equipment, but what create more aggravation to casual players is the big divide in levels, not necessarlily the equip.
Just having a character hitting lvl 60 is some kind of achievemnt and a good reward, of course if you want to get the best equipment as well you ll have to enter the hardcore arena, but that's another matter.

People can tollerate to have a less powerful equipment, but having the majority of players 20 levels higher than yourself is harder to swallow, and discouraging.

In Vanguard there is no chance for casual players to keep the same pace of more dedicated players both in leveling and the equipment department and that's from lvl 15 up, not from 60 like happens in WoW.
In Vanguard the casual gamer will start to get bored or frustrated at around lvl 20 (the more stubborn), while in WoW they will play happily til 60, when they will realise that probably they've been fucked, it will be too late to look back and since they have a level 60 (like anyone else) why not try to equip it properly?

That's the major difference between Vanguard and games like Wow, in Vanguard casuals won't reach the end level, in WoW they do.
And hopefully it will stay this way, although Brad wasn t exactly reassuring in his "viral" message.....

Itzena · 03-09-2007, 03:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Camerous

You're fucking retarded. The biggest damn crybabies on this fucking forum are the WoW fanboys. But of course you are one of them so why am I surprised you would post something so stupid and utterly not true. If this wasn't a Blizzard cum guzzling board people like Ut, Itza, and Hiram would have been banned long ago, specially if they pulled their stupid shit in WOW threads over and over again like they have in every VG thread.

Hey Camerous...did you miss the part of Brad's essay where he said 'There were and are also a lot of 'Vanbois' who spread the word that this game was not for WoW players and that people who like a more casual game like WoW were not welcome in Vanguard. In that sense, the messaging backfired and many people aren't even giving the game a chance.'?

Camerous · 03-09-2007, 03:37 PM

And that has what to do with the post you quoted? No where in there did I say WoW players couldn't play VG. perhaps you should reread it and get a fucking clue?

Ellsworth · 03-09-2007, 04:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Camerous

And that has what to do with the post you quoted? No where in there did I say WoW players couldn't play VG. perhaps you should reread it and get a fucking clue?

Yay for vocabulary!

Druixx · 03-09-2007, 04:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Camerous

And that has what to do with the post you quoted? No where in there did I say WoW players couldn't play VG. perhaps you should reread it and get a fucking clue?

Perhaps because you yourself are whining like a little whore about the supposed WoW whiners? Hypocrite much?

Itzena · 03-09-2007, 04:13 PM

*sigh*
Never mind Camerous - you keep battling the evil WoW players and driving them away from Vanguard with your attitude.

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Witoubo Registered User Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 355 -3 Internets	At least for me the people who play VG are probably the main thing that kept me away from the game. Sure it wasn't finished and all the stuff that has been rehashed many times over. I would have given the game an honest shot if it's fans didn't come off so crazy. I can't imagine wanting to play an online game with these people.