Why all the nerd rage against Vanguard? - Page 4

Flinch · 01-31-2007, 10:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Quineloe

1. No, in 2004 a hundred k wouldn't have been "an amazing success"

2. Success doesn't mean people become rich on it. Certainly not the developers.

You ARE trying to say that there will be serious roleplaying in Vanguard, right? If so: lol

No. I'm not.

What I was saying is that the way people mentally approach VG is different from WoW's approach.

I can't find a great way to convey it, but I'll try a sports analogy.

You know how some people play sports, and only do it to have fun and get some exercise, while there are the types who are competitive and get so 'into' the game? Same sort of thing here. The way people immerse themselves into VG is different from WoW's.

Again, I'm not trying to say that VG is going to have serious RPing..just that it's a more 'serious' and more friendly to the type of person who enjoys roleplaying...especially when compared to the cartoony, tongue-in-cheek atmosphere that is WoW.

Argh. I still don't feel I'm conveying what I mean accurately here. =/

Witoubo · 01-31-2007, 10:30 AM

I always figured it was because Brad promised the world, the second coming and a lot of people were so desperate to recapture EQ they bought it.

What he delivered is well short of the promises. The wonder and majesty of EQ is not returning, Vanguard is just another MMO. A decent MMO but nothing special.

Cue nerd rage.

Turg · 01-31-2007, 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Witoubo

I always figured it was because Brad promised the world, the second coming and a lot of people were so desperate to recapture EQ they bought it.

What he delivered is well short of the promises. The wonder and majesty of EQ is not returning, Vanguard is just another MMO. A decent MMO but nothing special.

Cue nerd rage.

I disagree. The magic is TOTALLY BACK. It's really unbelievable, I never thought I would recapture that EQ feeling again, but it's back and bigger than ever - amazing really.

vynde · 01-31-2007, 10:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Turg

I disagree. The magic is TOTALLY BACK. It's really unbelievable, I never thought I would recapture that EQ feeling again, but it's back and bigger than ever - amazing really.

its true. i know that eq wont be coming back, but i did feel that wonder in beta. hell i even felt some fear. the eq world made you feel insignificant, and vg does do that to you

Dis · 01-31-2007, 10:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Turg

I disagree. The magic is TOTALLY BACK. It's really unbelievable, I never thought I would recapture that EQ feeling again, but it's back and bigger than ever - amazing really.

god damn. I thought it had an EQ feel to it, but jesus...

r.gun · 01-31-2007, 10:38 AM

My thoughts on VG are this;
I would rather play an MMO with tons of potential, and a team that I've seen bust their ass off to pull things together, than play a game that plateaued for me, in terms of fun factor, a year ago.

boy- · 01-31-2007, 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Daerath

Simple. People are tired of being fed hype only to have the game they became excited for turn out to be a complete disappointment.

To be clear, I think the issue wasn't the hype, but it was the hype coming straight from brad. It was quite annoying to see him pop in, create a new thread which says nothing more than (see these new screenshots at website X!), then proceed to dodge/ignore absolutely any and all questions about the actual gameplay.

I mean when he makes a new thread every day for 4 days straight just for screenshots, that's really a bit excessive. Doubly so when he's not actually participating in the community any, just hyping his game.

Dis · 01-31-2007, 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Arbitrary

Guys, I heard Lucas is going to make another trilogy! I can't wait to see the beginnings of Darth Vader and the Old Republic and how everything happened!

Same exact kind of nerd hate got thrown at Vanguard.

But that was warranted. The more I see Episode 1 2 3, the more I get pissed off about the wasted potential. Lucas made those in mind of making some cash off of the SW nerds, instead of just trying to tell a good story. How the fuck else do explain Jar Jar

kcxiv · 01-31-2007, 10:40 AM

I was a hater after i played in beta back in Nov. I had told myself, there is no fucking way that i will play Vanguard. I couldn't run it for shit. A few friends of mines were going to play, so i gave in. I said, well i will upgrade a little bit if i need to. I have been playing for about 3 days now and i having a blast. Its so much better then i thought it was going to be. When i log off, i actually wanna stay on. I never had that feeling with WoW. When i logged off, i was like i don't even wanna log back on.

Anyways, to each their own. People use their money for whatever they want. If they are happy with the product, then thats all that matters.

vynde · 01-31-2007, 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Dis

How the fuck else do explain Jar Jar

racism

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Originally Posted by kcxiv

When i log off, i actually wanna stay on. I never had that feeling with WoW. When i logged off, i was like i don't even wanna log back on.

i got this too. i felt dirty for playing after logging off

Witoubo · 01-31-2007, 10:45 AM

Just to help the derail along, the star wars thing is pretty well divided by age. I'm 26, I was a big SW nerd and me and all of my friends hated it. I've got a ton of younger cousins who were in 6th grade or so when episode 1 came out. Them and all their friends didn't really know much about the original trilogy, they loved the prequels.

Although I got them to watch 4, 5 and 6 and admit Empire was the best of all 6.

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Originally Posted by vynde

racism

So true, I wonder if Lucas even consciously realized jar jar was pretty much a direct translation of old school super racist blackface comedy.

Eomer · 01-31-2007, 10:49 AM

It's amazing that 99% of the posters in this thread have completely missed the point. Nice work!

Dis · 01-31-2007, 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Eomer

It's amazing that 99% of the posters in this thread have completely missed the point. Nice work!

Im just derailing this thread into a starwars prequel discussion

Eomer · 01-31-2007, 10:51 AM

May as well. I'm sure the OP will come look at this thread and be like "well fuck, THAT was a waste of time."

Quineloe · 01-31-2007, 10:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Eomer

It's amazing that 99% of the posters in this thread have completely missed the point. Nice work!

Who didn't?

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01-31-2007, 10:30 AM	#47 (permalink)
Witoubo Registered User Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 355 -3 Internets	I always figured it was because Brad promised the world, the second coming and a lot of people were so desperate to recapture EQ they bought it. What he delivered is well short of the promises. The wonder and majesty of EQ is not returning, Vanguard is just another MMO. A decent MMO but nothing special. Cue nerd rage.

01-31-2007, 10:38 AM	#51 (permalink)
r.gun Registered User Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 473 -1 Internets	My thoughts on VG are this; I would rather play an MMO with tons of potential, and a team that I've seen bust their ass off to pull things together, than play a game that plateaued for me, in terms of fun factor, a year ago.

01-31-2007, 10:40 AM	#54 (permalink)
kcxiv Thizzelle Washington Join Date: May 2002 Location: Central Valley, Cali Posts: 3,022 -3 Internets	I was a hater after i played in beta back in Nov. I had told myself, there is no fucking way that i will play Vanguard. I couldn't run it for shit. A few friends of mines were going to play, so i gave in. I said, well i will upgrade a little bit if i need to. I have been playing for about 3 days now and i having a blast. Its so much better then i thought it was going to be. When i log off, i actually wanna stay on. I never had that feeling with WoW. When i logged off, i was like i don't even wanna log back on. Anyways, to each their own. People use their money for whatever they want. If they are happy with the product, then thats all that matters.

01-31-2007, 10:49 AM	#57 (permalink)
Eomer Registered User Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 8,903 +11 Internets	It's amazing that 99% of the posters in this thread have completely missed the point. Nice work!

01-31-2007, 10:51 AM	#59 (permalink)
Eomer Registered User Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 8,903 +11 Internets	May as well. I'm sure the OP will come look at this thread and be like "well fuck, THAT was a waste of time."