Why all the nerd rage against Vanguard?

[tad10]

Originally Posted by The Hiram Key

Thanks Nino, the sound thing really stuck in my craw.

Dude, you don't play the fucking game you just bitch about on this forum -- why the fuck should anyone give a shit what you think?

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How a problem with a game you don't play could stick in your craw is beyond me. It's borderline crazy bro.

[tad10]

Originally Posted by Greyform

I am getting a message each time I kill a certain mob that I am learning a new ability "more study needs to be done" each time I kill that particular type of mob I get that message.

so if it is not in the game yet they are working on it, I have not killed enough of them yet to get the "you have learned" said ability.

Maybe Nino can clarify.

It's in the game "tactics recongition" or whatever the skill is called -- was added last patch.

Edit: Just read Nino's post I guess they turned it off again.

[The Hiram Key]

Originally Posted by tad10

Dude, you don't play the fucking game you just bitch about on this forum -- why the fuck should anyone give a shit what you think?

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How a problem with a game you don't play could stick in your craw is beyond me. It's borderline crazy bro.

What gives you the idea I am not playing it ? When was release ? Fucking Tad, you are all over any VG's threads nuts like you want to swallow them.


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Give it a rest.

edit: Added the ***....is that code for "I am a shill asshole fuck ?"

[blahblahblah]

Originally Posted by The Hiram Key

What gives you the idea I am not playing it ? When was release ? Fucking Tad, you are all over any VG's threads nuts like you want to swallow them.

Give it a rest.

So are you playing or not?

[Greyform]

Originally Posted by Jooka

you sure its not part of a quest?

Pretty sure - it was not the usual Ding 1/4 mobs killed message. it was a definite you have learned X ability you need more study message. I will check my quest log, but I do not think I have any such quest like that.

[teneran]

Originally Posted by holymight

I play just fine with sound on? I also don't know anybody ingame that plays without sound.

I play without sound, but correct, you don't know me in-game. :-)

I had to play without sound when I first started because I didn't have a souped up gaming-type box. Then after enjoying the game and wanting more than 12 FPS (with everything low as possible and no sound), I decided to bite the bullet and rebuild my gaming box with a new motherboard, 8800 video card, dual core CPU, fast HD, 2 gigs RAM, and OEM vista.

Now its not unusual to get 55+ FPS in outdoor areas, towns are lower of course, ranging from 25 to 35. I don't have every high end graphics turned on, but i do use complex terrain, which is so much nicer than simple terrain.

I still play without sound, yes, crazy eh? Why? because VG still requires a lot of resources to use my on-board hi def sound, which seriously cuts into my framerate, and I'd rather have better in game graphics than sound .... plus, I'm kinda used to it now, LOL.

I could go buy a sound card but right now, but I'd rather just hold tight and see what optimizations they continue to make over the next 6 months. This is one area they really need to work on ASAP.

[Bolero]

I used to love the sound for Vanguard.. until I got wolf form. eeeeeeoooooooo

Sound cards are fairly cheap these days, I wouldn't really consider a gaming system build without one. As long as you don't group with a wolfformed druid, Vanguard's sound is a must have IMO.

[Ayeshala]

I just got done doing some testing. To understand this, be aware that as a sound device I am using a Plantronic Audio 550 .dsp USB headset. So I decided to test the sounds some.

I started the game, turned sound off, cranked most visuals to the max, closed the game, started the game again. Then I proceeded to run from Tursh to past the Northern Border while taking in some scenery. When I got to the Northern border, the game was rock solid. Using about 1070 at peak.

I changed sound to on. Closed the game, started the game again.

Went the other direction, back to Tursh. When I reached Coastal Graveyard, a few seconds before passing through Adyinn's Watch my FPS went rock bottom (5-6) while I was getting a good 15+ before (keep in mind this is with cranked out graphics using a x1900xt). I had gone through that area before without having any problems. EDIT: Now that I remember, available physical memory went from 140 to 20 after chunking). I continued through Coastal graveyard, into Ocean's watch. With the same very low FPS, I eventually crashed. When I came back I was right in front of the Tursh chunk line so I'm pretty sure I crashed while going into Tursh (confirmed after checking the log). Mem usage by the game was at 1148 before the crash.

What does that all mean? No that much to be honest, I was not going in the same direction both tests, etc. But all in all I covered a lot more distance, without problems, on the first try (even having half of the Tursh zone loaded at start) while sound was off. To be honest further isolation would require more time than I am willing to dedicate to this, at least for now.

[Nino]

Originally Posted by Bolero

I used to love the sound for Vanguard.. until I got wolf form. eeeeeeoooooooo

Sound cards are fairly cheap these days, I wouldn't really consider a gaming system build without one. As long as you don't group with a wolfformed druid, Vanguard's sound is a must have IMO.

So, I finally fixed the wolf form howl. I had to duplicate the existing wolf and strip the 'howl' sound from the model index. Sadly, it won't get pushed until the end of the week with the rest of the art, but it is indeed 'fixed'. It used to be much worse when I accidentally flagged the howl sound as 2D, which meant it was heard at max volume for upwards of 300 meters away. I think it stayed like that for most of beta, I am surprised I didn't get death threats it was so irritating.

[chackle]

Originally Posted by Ayeshala

stuff

It all means nothing because you didn't perform a consistent test, you've introduced too many variables that fuck up your results. Do the same thing covering the same ground exactly and then see what the difference is.

[xregg]

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[Mkopec1]

One thing I hate is how dark your Avatar always looks, except maybe at 12 noon, when you can actually see his face, its really dark like the above screen.

[Draegan]

Some of the best scenery I've seen is from Kojan.

[Furism]

Originally Posted by Nino

So, I finally fixed the wolf form howl..

While you're at it, fix the spiders sound. The sound they make when you hit them is annoying as hell.

[Ayeshala]

Originally Posted by chackle

It all means nothing because you didn't perform a consistent test, you've introduced too many variables that fuck up your results. Do the same thing covering the same ground exactly and then see what the difference is.

Yes, I have said the same thing in the last paragraph of my post, thank you for reminding everyone though, it's very appreciated.

I've supplied enough usable information as a paying customer; I will not be spending more time on this. It's not my job. All they need to know is that certain configurations still have _large_ stability issues. Not just performance, but stability. I'll play and if in a month or two I still have to close/restart the game every 2 hours to avoid crashing, I will cancel.

Not to say I don't want to help, but I don't have whole evenings to dedicate to this.