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Old 08-09-2009, 01:07 PM   #7291 (permalink)
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Why does a caster mob have to drop a warriors shield? It makes sense if that caster happened to have killed some warrior and this is discussed in the lore, perhaps linking the item to a quest that can be completed after the person gets the item, traveling back to the Warriors order and them identifying the object as the shield of their friend, thus you learn the past of your new shield.
Its because they spend a lot of time using gear to balance progression. WoW's distrobution is based off of roughly where they expect (and often want) a player to be at that point in their raid progression. So they try to evenly distribute dps/tank/healer gear throughout the instance. Thats the basic idea - they do a little more with cross instance drops and world drops, trades.. etc.... (plus also.. it would suck having warrior mob #10 drop all the tank gear, while everyone else gears up on caster mob #1)

Plus they use mid-expansion content patches with newer 5/10 man content (it was the 20 man stuff back in old world) to boost the more casual playerbase and give them a boost in raid gear.

They are fairly decent at this type of thing. Its all about slowing down the hardcore a little, and later throwing enough of a bone towards the more casual guilds to help them along.
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Old 08-09-2009, 01:36 PM   #7292 (permalink)
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This is correct. And I think we need to make sure games have more loot to progress those that don't have loot. When you have loot like that, it makes loot be lootable for the peope unworthy of loot 3 months prior. Those people need loot too.

Let's discuss the bigger picture.

Player portraits.

I don't know about you, but when I look up to the left hand corner of my screen once a day, I do not want to see my character staring back at me. I want to see a porn star. Now, this goes back to loot. Those people that didn't have the loot 3 months prior should be able to have a rare chance to have the random porn star pop up in the left hand corner for stroking accessibility. What brings sex into a game better than seeing that black chick from Rock of Love 3 on an episode of Milf Hunter in place of your Dwarf face.

This brings up a very important topic.

Scalability.

When I get that rare black chick from Milf Hunter, I want to have the option of enlarging (Damn it...) my window. I think today's MMORPG in this generation of generations needs to have that. Schilling, would you kindly (Oh boy... Now I am spouting Bioshock quotes) see if that will make your game sell more? Let's analyze that in the next meeting. I'll bring the scones from Starbucks and lets go nuts buddy.

Now, the biggest thing people are missing is the loading screen.

I want it to scare the fuck out of me. Like an Eternal Darkness bathtub scene.

Instead of "Loading.... Please wait" or a back drop of the current expansion of the zone you are in, I want a blue screen of death. I want to wonder if I am loading, or if my hard drive is fucked. I want the anticipation of yelling out my window to my neighbors, THANK CHRIST STEPHANIE!!!! MY HARD DRIVE IS NOT FUCKED. I LOADED MY MMORPG. ... BY THE WAY, DO YOU HAVE A PAIR OF BINOCULARS? MINE BROKE WHEN I WAS LOOKING AT YOUR ASS THROUGH THE WINDOW LAST NIGHT"

My next topic, Schilling you won't need to take notes on this one, will be on more of the business approach. How to sell absolute fucking garbage while guising most of the design ideas off of a 2 year old thread.
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Old 08-09-2009, 02:02 PM   #7293 (permalink)
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Old 08-09-2009, 02:23 PM   #7294 (permalink)
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Nah he's worse now cause no one stopped him last time.
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Old 08-09-2009, 02:41 PM   #7295 (permalink)
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Nah he's worse now cause no one stopped him last time.
Nice reputation you have there too buddy. Pot Kettle dipshit. Course you are good at that considering you tried to flame me with a family photo.

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To keep this on track, I need to add another design idea.

Crafting.

Crafting is a mini game. So let's keep playing the mini game and add focus to the mini game by making it a game which can put out loot. That loot should be able to be sold to other players. Without having sellable loot, you don't really have an economy in an MMORPG and we need to have that to make this generation of games to be successful not only from a player point of view, but from a financial perspective. Curt and I are now figuring out a way as we speak to make the crafting system rely heavily on mice and mousepads and are in contract negotiations with Microsoft so when their mouse breaks after clicking 56 times to make an arrow (Which you can only sell and cannot use) we will have a pop up ad to remind the user that their mouse only has about 60,530 clicks left on the left button before they should replace it with a new Microsoft Lag-Free (Ping time <.01 MS> mouse with special mouse hardware made specifically to give you that extra edge in PvP and Crafting in an MMORPG.

Next up I will talk about Camerous. Who will be a guest star in the next MMORPG coming soon. It will be a pot, and once you click on it, it will be a kettle. It will be mindless entertainment... Similar to watching Camerous and his friends play a game of Trivial Pursuit.
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Old 08-09-2009, 03:31 PM   #7297 (permalink)
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Its because they spend a lot of time using gear to balance progression.
They do try to do thematic loot as best they can though. Skull of Gul'dan off Illidan and so forth. Anything else you can pretty much write off as "Oh, we found this on a long dead adventurer."

Honestly what kills the roleplay aspect of it for me more then anything is tokens. "We need you to take out the dark god or Azeroth will forever languish in darkness and misery! What? Oh these? We have all these amazing weapons and armor just laying around as well that you could use to defeat him buuuuuut we're going to hang onto them just in case. Y'know...you could loot and scoot and we just can't have that now can we."
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Old 08-09-2009, 03:32 PM   #7298 (permalink)
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There's... not even a game shown yet. Not even a fake shell to pull screenshots from to say "WE'RE DOING SOMETHING." All there is is "there's this MMO, and it's going to have a story, and MMO features."

At least there was *something* to see and call shit on VG.

You could at least wait to start the vitriol train on the project until some "promises" about game content are made. I assume that's part of the reason Curt's avoiding saying anything concrete about the game.
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Old 08-09-2009, 03:39 PM   #7300 (permalink)
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It's sad that such a long running, rather peaceful thread has been all but ruined by one person. If the discussion in this thread is stupid or not doesn't give anyone the right to just show up and start spewing their poisonous bullshit just because they get off on attacking people in the industry. Thread has entertained people for months, it's heading for the rickshaw now. Weak.

What I don't get is why you care Ut. This isn't your website, this isn't your thread and this isn't your forum. If people want to have stupid discussions, or if someone wants to shill their product then fine. I don't see how it is any business of yours. He isn't doing like Brad, he isn't making a new thread trying to sell his game every other day. This thread wasn't even started by Curt.

Did you ever stop to think that maybe Requiem LIKES having people like Curt/brad/scott/whoever post here? Without any real developers all we end up with is retards such as yourself and all the other armchair designers that think just because they played Everquest at high end they somehow magically have what it takes to make MMOs. I would much rather have people who are apart of the industry post here, regardless of how shitty their products may or may not end up being. It's better then a endless sea of pretenders.

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Old 08-09-2009, 06:07 PM   #7301 (permalink)
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Who in this thread is playing, or going to play Aion?

Like to try and hook up with some folks inside/outside 38.

Seems I've lost the drive to play WoW, or any of the MMO's out there right now. I'm back to just 'gaming', swapping around WWII stuff, playing some more Sid Meier's stuff but not sucked in by anything.

Tried RoM but, well, there just wasn't much different about the experience.

Amazing what we are starting to want/expect from game play in MMO's.

Now I can click on an NPC name in my quest book and the game will walk me to him? Hmmm.

Tell you one thing I did like, when I was solo'ing early this red flashing WARNING came on the screen telling me I was near so and so, who supposedly was a bad mofo. Of course I sought him out, and he and his 59 little wolf pups crushed me.
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Old 08-09-2009, 06:16 PM   #7302 (permalink)
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I'm trying so hard not to purchase AION as I think it's a WOW clone, but I really have the MMO itch right now and it seems the only decent option unless I want to go back to Azeroth...

I've been trying to fight the urge with Popcap games and Sid Meier on Steam, but it just isn't hitting the MMO sweet spot.

Hey, I haven't tried out Darkfall.. It can't be that bad, can it?
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Old 08-09-2009, 07:02 PM   #7303 (permalink)
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Same, Plants vs. Zombies, far funner than it should be...
Heard some pretty negative things about Darkfall, looking forward to Aion, just trying to figure out the schedule for the testing right now...
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Eh. Once the new game smell wore off I realized it was just going to be more of the same. The 'community' that typically builds in beta will fall apart as we all flock back to our WAR/AoC/WoW carry-over guilds and fragmented community. The "This is just like WoW but prettier!" will stop being a novelty around level 30 when the grind starts to kick in. And when you get your shit pushed in by 6 to 1 odds everywhere you go in the pvp zone you'll think "yup...just like WoW alright."

I'm sure it'll be popular with the pvp crowd for a bit. Then like the self-cleaning oven they are the population will dwindle slowly as the rich get richer and the poor say "fuck this shit" and go back to free epix in WoW.

I enjoyed Aion because it was nice to see a game pushing forward with in game cinematics to progress the story and other novelties, but for every step forward Aion takes, it takes 10 steps back. I honestly hope I'm wrong and it's a breakout hit and Blizzard has to start innovating with WoW again and not just relying on their "Super sekrit" mmo to win us all back.

Anyways...

I will say one thing. If you get a gamefly account, don't rent like 12 JRPG's in a row. It will crush what remains of your soul.
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