Green Monster Games (Curt Schilling)

[OneofOne]

Wow Curt, you went from good faction with me to rock bottom in a single sentence. I think you need to spend more time with Moorguard on posting tact.

[Lleauaric~EW]

Originally Posted by Fog

No, it doesn't. What are you talking about?

About 5000 years of human history.

Im talking about the Congress of Vienna, the French Revolution, the Trial of Socrates, Imperial Japan, and every society since man started dropping seeds into the ground and forming communities.

Seriously... read a fucking book.

SpringerLink - Journal Article

start there.

Your myopia is staggering. You REALLY think the liberal v Conservative debate is only Republican v Democrat, in the United States, in our time? Wow..

Liberalism is a broad array of related ideas and theories of government that consider individual liberty to be the most important political goal. Modern liberalism has its roots in the Age of Enlightenment. Liberalism rejected many foundational assumptions that dominated most earlier theories of government, such as the Divine Right of Kings, hereditary status, state religion, and protectionism.

V.

Conservatism is a term used to describe political philosophies that favour tradition, where tradition refers to various religious, cultural, or nationally defined beliefs and customs. It is difficult to define the term precisely because different cultures have different established values and, in consequence, conservatives in different cultures have differing goals. (Some conservatives seek to preserve the status quo or to reform society slowly, while others seek to return to the values of an earlier time, the status quo ante). In a more general sense, politically, Conservatism often refers to Right-Wing politics.

until your level of understanding passes what is acceptable for a retarded 8th grader, dont talk to me.

[Ukerric]

Originally Posted by Lleauaric~EW

until your level of understanding passes what is acceptable for a retarded 8th grader, dont talk to me.

I have to agree with Fog. Liberalism isn't by definition The Unknown or Change. It has been usually associated with change, but one does not imply the other.

The usual Liberalism vs Conservatism debate is completely tainted. It's a debate of Orange vs Bright. Sure, you're talking about light stuff, but you're looking at different qualities.

The oppositions are Liberalism (the idea that people are better off deciding what's good for them on their own) vs Dogmatism (the idea that fixed rules are better off deciding what's good for people) on one side, and Conservatives (the idea that the current system or the previous system is probably better than the alternatives) vs Progressives (the idea that a new system could probably be better than what we have or had).

Liberals have usually been Progressives, because most government systems are heavily Dogmatic. But not all Progressives have been Liberals. Early 20th century is a good illustration of this. Communists were Progressives, but hardly Liberals. And any heavily Liberal government will turn extremely Conservative if you suggest adding more rules and regulations, even if they're new.

[Bizanich]

Ngruk's explanation about his experiences and why he asked if Jait was a Democrat make it make a little more sense. Still a retarded statement to throw at Jait on a gamer forum where 66-75% of us are left leaning it seems, but still

I'd love if we could get Ngruk and the rest of you who are posting politics to join the other flamethrowers in General forum (that's down at the bottom) discussing politics, I'd hammer the F5 button all day at work and get nothing done watching the flames....

....but for this thread, lets get back to game stuff....

So, the MMO....with the apparent success or hype of WAR, has Green Monster Games / 38 Studios / whatever its called ever stated their position on PvP for their game?

[Draegan]

Politics does not belong in the MMO Discussion forum.

[Havelock]

Curt: don't fuck up your launch like Mythic did.

[Froofy-D]

Originally Posted by Havelock

Curt: don't fuck up your launch like Mythic did.

What is wrong with the WAR launch?

[Draegan]

I think Mythic had a near flawless launch, at least in my experience.

[mac35g]

Originally Posted by Draegan

I think Mythic had a near flawless launch, at least in my experience.

Unless you happened to be someone who preordered online and hasn't received your game yet...which means you'll be locked out of the game from now until you do receive your CD key.

I'd imagine that's a pretty large group of players (myself included).

[Draegan]

That has nothing to do with the launch, it has something to do with distribution.

[mac35g]

Originally Posted by Draegan

That has nothing to do with the launch, it has something to do with distribution.

That's just semantics. This is the first weekend the game has been live and a lot of people will be unable to play...to me that really affects the success of the games launch.

Either way, this isn't the thread for this debate so I'll take it to the WAR thread.

[Bizanich]

Originally Posted by Draegan

That has nothing to do with the launch, it has something to do with distribution.

I'd agree if they hadn't originally said you could play w/o the key until Monday.

[Draegan]

Well this is why I never pre-order a game from the internet. There are plenty of shops in my area I can pre-order or pick it up from. But then again to each their own. Sucks though.

[Venjenz]

Originally Posted by Slayder

I really doubt Curt is posting here seeking our approval, political or otherwise.

Never said he was.

I just remarked that his political comment would probably be what fetches the normal amount of hate that any game dev/publisher/suit normally gets around here.

I was right.

I don't know Curt personally, but hearing his interviews and reading his answers in this thread, yeah, I'd say it's a safe bet that he doesn't give a fuck what FoH or really anyone thinks of him. Cool by me.

Now, to the game, I'd like to hear more from anyone at 38 on which good MMO mechanics they will mimic. Sometimes games come out and they try so hard to be different from WoW or EQ that they forget to inlcuce the good stuff that really works in WoW in EQ.

I'd love to see a company put a prettier face on Anarchy Online's tradeskill system, and possibly a fantasy version of the implant system. That's one example.

WoW's mount quests for pallies and warlocks (which I would love extended to every class and to every mount type) are another cool mechanic.

So Curt, or whoever, what things in other games are part of 38's "to include" list even partially or in some paraphrased fashion?

[UnchainedAcolyte]

Originally Posted by gnomad

Just because you play a game doesn't mean you can make a game.

Wouldn't that then invalidate the comments of just about everyone on the forums here as well?


Political generalization however was in poor taste and a bad PR move.

Someone call Keith Olbermann... lol.