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Old 03-17-2008, 12:13 AM   #3076 (permalink)
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Yes, not to mention Matrix 2 and 3 were bad and completely forgetable. The Matrix was such a cool movie, it was a huge success, and very popular with lots of different people. I must have watched it 3 or 4 times when it was in theater, and I never do that with movies.

But everything else that has the name attached to it sucks. And don't even try and defend the movies, they weren't complete trash, they were watchable, once, BARELY, but that's really it.
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Old 03-17-2008, 02:02 AM   #3077 (permalink)
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I agree, Matrix not a very good example in this particular case.
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Old 03-17-2008, 07:50 AM   #3078 (permalink)
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I never walked out at the end of a big movie until Matrix 3 and said to myself, "I just got cheated out of some money."
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Old 03-17-2008, 07:56 AM   #3079 (permalink)
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Meh, I liked Matrix 3. 2 was okay.. but it was one of those middle movies with no clear beginning and end that some trilogies have.

The latest Matrix game was good though, The Path of Neo. It was one of the few that was actually like the damn first movie.
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Old 03-20-2008, 11:20 AM   #3080 (permalink)
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Star Wars is a blockbuster movie and book franchise that has been all over the spectrum of success and failure in gaming. Star Trek has a similar story. IP Holders just don't take the time to manage the quality of videogames in their verse. Less than 10% of movie -> videogame crossovers are even "average" amongst their non-hollywood peers. Several comic -> movies/games have a similar story, but I'd say we've received a larger share of good comic book games.

I think they just see it as a throwaway source of spinoffs like action figures, saturday morning cartoons and limited run comics instead of an investment in the property itself. These Hollywood folks view the films as the sole propogation of the property.

Unfortunately the trend hasn't done that well the other way around either. The first FF movie, Spirits Within, sucked, and everything Uwe Boll touches has sunk as well.


Matrix 2 was a considerable let-down. That was the oppurtunity to introduce a serious plot twist, and instead it was a minor bump in the road - a shift of emphasis. Furthermore wire fights with polearms and swords are /yawn. Automatic weapons and h2h kung fu are the shit.
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Old 03-21-2008, 09:15 AM   #3081 (permalink)
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Meh, I liked Matrix 3. 2 was okay.. but it was one of those middle movies with no clear beginning and end that some trilogies have.

The latest Matrix game was good though, The Path of Neo. It was one of the few that was actually like the damn first movie.
This thread got so derailed as to venture deep into Matrix talk? Ugh!
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This thread got so derailed as to venture deep into Matrix talk? Ugh!
That's what happens when you don't pop in to give us news, updates and insight!
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Bah that's just press releases, we want inside dirt or you doom us to more Matrix posts.
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Old 03-21-2008, 03:26 PM   #3086 (permalink)
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Bah that's just press releases, we want inside dirt and early Beta invites or you doom us to more Matrix, and possibly pro-Yankees, posts.
Much better.
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Old 03-22-2008, 06:02 AM   #3087 (permalink)
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First post in this thread, just read a lot of it (skipped seemingly pages of nonsense and baseball talk) and after that and flicking through the list of people hired and what's been said by the dev's, 38 really are aiming damn high!

I also had no idea who Cal Ripken was (Then again I hadn't heard of Mr Schilling either ) but I guess having the Atlantic ocean between us gives me somewhat of an excuse. You chaps still mostly think everyone is from the US of A but there are people on this board who think the Bostonians still owe us for a shipload of tea

I guess the UK equivalent would be someone like David James opening a games studio, I had to struggle to think of appropriate names and he seems the most likely i can think of at short notice. Most of the bigger names in sports over here who are towards the end of their careers seem to spend most of their money on birds and booze or failing that, just waste it

So anyways, just wondering if you chaps had any thoughts yet on whether you were aiming for mostly NAmerican market penetration or do you think your IP will be robust enough to attract euro's and korea etc?
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Old 03-22-2008, 06:29 AM   #3088 (permalink)
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That seems like a valid concern. Names like Schilling, Todd McFarlane, and R.A. Salvadore hit some nerd/sports vibe in America, but probably less so in overseas markets.

I think regardless as to the IP, if the game is solid it might be picked up. Although the Asian market can be hard to crack and the style (from what's been told) might fit better with the traditional Euro-offered MMOs.
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That seems like a valid concern. Names like Schilling, Todd McFarlane, and R.A. Salvadore hit some nerd/sports vibe in America, but probably less so in overseas markets.

I think regardless as to the IP, if the game is solid it might be picked up. Although the Asian market can be hard to crack and the style (from what's been told) might fit better with the traditional Euro-offered MMOs.
R.A. is bigger in Europe than he is here, Todd's audience is pop-culture'ish, and huge in Asia.

Regardless, we are targeting a world wide audience, have been since day 1. You can't expect to be the best in the world at something if you only operate on one part of the globe!
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