HDMI vs Composite For 360

Drajakur · 10-23-2009, 08:13 AM

Here's the situation: I have one of the first gen 360s and it does not have HDMI so I connect to my HDTV via component cables. I also have a PS3 connected via HDMI.

When buying new games I'm always struggling with which platform. My assumption has been that HDMI basically provides better image quality over component so by default I buy for the PS3 unless I am playing with friends.

But is that really true? Would I really notice any difference? I'm mostly concerned about upscaling issues because most games still don't support true 1080p resolution.

I've been looking around at this issue but haven't been able to find a definitive answer. Maybe there isn't one. In any case, I'd like to hear some opinions on what people here think.

Thanks!

Darus Grey · 10-23-2009, 08:40 AM

In a word no. If I did a blind study I guarantee 99% couldn't tell the difference.

Cad · 10-23-2009, 08:43 AM

No subjective difference in component and HDMI - but composite != component, just FYI.

Quineloe · 10-23-2009, 09:39 AM

I noticed a big difference when upgrading to HDMI. I don't see why darus says something about 99%.

dak · 10-23-2009, 10:05 AM

I notice it on the 50 inch I have my computer hooked up to sometimes but I can't tell the difference for any consoles.

Lenas · 10-23-2009, 10:10 AM

The only benefit of HDMI over Component, IMO, is that there's 4 less plugs to worry about.

Smellson · 10-23-2009, 10:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lenas

The only benefit of HDMI over Component, IMO, is that there's 4 less plugs to worry about.

This. More or less believed that it was for downers like me who aren't AV savvy and would prefer a single cable.

XadionDarkborn · 10-23-2009, 12:02 PM

0's and 1's folk...its all digital

Darus Grey · 10-23-2009, 01:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Quineloe

I noticed a big difference when upgrading to HDMI. I don't see why darus says something about 99%.

Psychological Bias, you expect a difference so you see one(someone is free to correct me with the exact term for this, I don't remember).

Just like the people who buy those $2000 power cords "swear they work".

As I said, if I did a blind study, I guarantee the results would be "people can't tell the difference".

Anyone remember the name of that study that showed the average consumer can't even tell the difference between SD and HD? (hilariously true), expecting to see a difference between 1080p over component vs HDMI is just unrealistic.

Cad · 10-23-2009, 02:55 PM

Unless you have some amount of signal loss over your component cables, there is likely NO difference in the resulting signal. Whether the picture matrix is encoded in an analog fashion or a digital one makes no difference. I'm going to go ahead and speculate that none of you with component cables (unless they are defective) have any signal loss.

Quineloe · 10-23-2009, 05:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Darus Grey

Psychological Bias, you expect a difference so you see one(someone is free to correct me with the exact term for this, I don't remember).

The difference is obvious, as in I can actually read the fine print now during initial loading whereas I couldn't before.

There is nothing psychological about that.

Lenas · 10-23-2009, 05:20 PM

Composite to HDMI, yeah that'd be true.

Component to HDMI? You are lying. It's the same signal.

Quineloe · 10-23-2009, 05:38 PM

why don't you come over to my house and fuck my sister while I show you the difference?

Lenas · 10-23-2009, 06:14 PM

Cool bro.

Cad · 10-23-2009, 08:17 PM

The difference is, Quineloe is trolling as usual. He does this in every thread, don't know how I bothered to reply to his stupid crap.

10-23-2009, 08:13 AM	#1 (permalink)
Drajakur I have a competition in me. Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: In the clinch. Posts: 826 +20 Internets	HDMI vs Composite For 360 Here's the situation: I have one of the first gen 360s and it does not have HDMI so I connect to my HDTV via component cables. I also have a PS3 connected via HDMI. When buying new games I'm always struggling with which platform. My assumption has been that HDMI basically provides better image quality over component so by default I buy for the PS3 unless I am playing with friends. But is that really true? Would I really notice any difference? I'm mostly concerned about upscaling issues because most games still don't support true 1080p resolution. I've been looking around at this issue but haven't been able to find a definitive answer. Maybe there isn't one. In any case, I'd like to hear some opinions on what people here think. Thanks!

10-23-2009, 10:05 AM	#5 (permalink)
dak You don't have to agree. Just know I'm right. Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: France Posts: 4,750	I notice it on the 50 inch I have my computer hooked up to sometimes but I can't tell the difference for any consoles. __________________ Stop being bad RIP Spiderman-Troupe 2002-2008

10-23-2009, 10:10 AM	#6 (permalink)
Lenas Registered User Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 1,859	The only benefit of HDMI over Component, IMO, is that there's 4 less plugs to worry about. __________________ 360 / PSN - LenasUchiha

10-23-2009, 05:20 PM	#12 (permalink)
Lenas Registered User Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 1,859	Composite to HDMI, yeah that'd be true. Component to HDMI? You are lying. It's the same signal. __________________ 360 / PSN - LenasUchiha

10-23-2009, 06:14 PM	#14 (permalink)
Lenas Registered User Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 1,859	Cool bro. __________________ 360 / PSN - LenasUchiha

10-23-2009, 08:40 AM	#2 (permalink)
Darus Grey I can dance if I want to Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 1,839	In a word no. If I did a blind study I guarantee 99% couldn't tell the difference.

10-23-2009, 08:43 AM	#3 (permalink)
Cad Registered User Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Dallas Posts: 6,674 -37 Internets	No subjective difference in component and HDMI - but composite != component, just FYI.

10-23-2009, 09:39 AM	#4 (permalink)
Quineloe Hard Rock Hallelujah Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 9,608	I noticed a big difference when upgrading to HDMI. I don't see why darus says something about 99%.

10-23-2009, 02:55 PM	#10 (permalink)
Cad Registered User Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Dallas Posts: 6,674 -37 Internets	Unless you have some amount of signal loss over your component cables, there is likely NO difference in the resulting signal. Whether the picture matrix is encoded in an analog fashion or a digital one makes no difference. I'm going to go ahead and speculate that none of you with component cables (unless they are defective) have any signal loss.

10-23-2009, 05:38 PM	#13 (permalink)
Quineloe Hard Rock Hallelujah Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 9,608	why don't you come over to my house and fuck my sister while I show you the difference?

10-23-2009, 08:17 PM	#15 (permalink)
Cad Registered User Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Dallas Posts: 6,674 -37 Internets	The difference is, Quineloe is trolling as usual. He does this in every thread, don't know how I bothered to reply to his stupid crap.

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