XCOM: Enemy Unknown - Page 12

Grez · 02-05-2012, 10:11 AM

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Originally Posted by ChewieTobbacca

It's still hard to believe that this game came out in 1994. 1994!

I point to X-COM as proof that games have declined as a whole (and especially in depth and quality) over time. Younger people have no clue what they missed out on

Agreed, Master of Orion II is another example. Fucking amazing game, and nothing out there today can compare, unfortunately! I'd give a testicle for MOOIV thats just a graphical update on II with, maybe, some more racial abilities and technologies.

Onigen · 02-05-2012, 10:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Grez

It's pretty hard to get psionics, you've gotta get lucky enough to capture a psionic silicoid or, much much later in the game, etherials. I've beaten the game twice on superhuman in the last 3 months and wasn't lucky enough to capture a single psion.

You beat the game twice on superhuman and didn't manage to capture a single live sectoid leader/commander or any ethereal? The sectoid leader can come as early as the first terror ship. (if you manage to drop it of course before it lands)

Felonius · 02-05-2012, 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Grez

Agreed, Master of Orion II is another example. Fucking amazing game, and nothing out there today can compare, unfortunately! I'd give a testicle for MOOIV thats just a graphical update on II with, maybe, some more racial abilities and technologies.

Thanks for ruining No-Fapuary for me bro. THANKS A FUCKING LOT!

Grez · 02-05-2012, 10:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Onigen

You beat the game twice on superhuman and didn't manage to capture a single live sectoid leader/commander or any ethereal? The sectoid leader can come as early as the first terror ship. (if you manage to drop it of course before it lands)

Yup, beat it twice recently. I encountered one or two psionic silicoids on terror missions, but whilst on terror missions, I tend not to pack small launchers (infact, the only time I pack small launchers is when engaging a base), so unless I get lucky and knock one out with a shot, I don't get psionics.

The bases I attacked had floaters in them, infact, most of the enemies in both games were floaters.

Neither games lasted past April of the first year; didn't even see mutons, just floaters/silicoids/snakemen.

nosf · 02-05-2012, 03:07 PM

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Originally Posted by gavinrad

Jesus Christ this game is an unforgiving rapefest. I mean, it's nice to actually be challenged for once, since I ordinarily cruise through strategy games, but this is unreal.

Hot diggity daffodils.

I remember taking a grenade or rocket into my landing craft once before I'd moved everyone out, or maybe just as they'd gotten out. Inhumanly harsh. Or those little guys who infect people ran into and infected a pile of my best guys, so harsh.

Ashes Emberblade · 02-05-2012, 04:14 PM

I enjoy playing superhuman and only saving to exit. Lose a few missions, a few countries defect and get alien bases in them, game gets very hard very fast.

Azziane · 02-06-2012, 08:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Kharza-kzad

I don't think I like the small squads thing. 8 is small, 4 is tiny.

But I will still furiously buy this. Furiously pay money. I'll click buy on steam really hard. Want.

14 soldiers in TFTD got tedious at times (not even mentioning the leviathan capacity). I think less is better but 4 to 8 sounds like another dumb move to me. I wonder how they limit it to 4 and increase to "8 or so" too. Leadership ability maybe? or no soldier recruitment a la UFO: ET v1.0...

nosf · 02-06-2012, 08:51 AM

The ocean liner missions killed TFTD for me, god that was some tedious shit.

Itzena · 02-06-2012, 09:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Ashes Emberblade

I enjoy playing superhuman and only saving to exit. Lose a few missions, a few countries defect and get alien bases in them, game gets very hard very fast.

X-Com difficulty is bugged because it resets to 'Easy' when you save (which is why TFTD was lion-rapingly difficult - people bitched about X-Com not being hard enough so the devs went "You want tough? We'll fucking give you tough").

I think the Windows version fixes the bug, and I'm pretty sure the common mods do as well.

Ashes Emberblade · 02-06-2012, 09:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Itzena

X-Com difficulty is bugged because it resets to 'Easy' when you save (which is why TFTD was lion-rapingly difficult - people bitched about X-Com not being hard enough so the devs went "You want tough? We'll fucking give you tough").

I think the Windows version fixes the bug, and I'm pretty sure the common mods do as well.

http://www.fohguild.org/forums/other...ml#post2250791

Mist · 02-06-2012, 10:01 PM

TFTD was actually a lot better of a game if you ignore the fact that it wasn't very different from the original. Basically, in every way that it was different, the difference was strictly an improvement. Playing TFTD first, the original just seemed lame in comparison.

Azziane · 02-07-2012, 07:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Mist

TFTD was actually a lot better of a game if you ignore the fact that it wasn't very different from the original. Basically, in every way that it was different, the difference was strictly an improvement. Playing TFTD first, the original just seemed lame in comparison.

I agree with that I think. But I actually played TFTD first when I discovered the franchise back in 95 - so that's where my heart is. I remember trying UFO a few months later and thinking "I can't deal with the shitty graphics".

Itzena · 02-07-2012, 08:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Ashes Emberblade

http://www.fohguild.org/forums/other...ml#post2250791

Haha, missed that post. Fair enough then.

ChewieTobbacca · 02-07-2012, 08:53 AM

Restarted playing UFO Defense again... lols at Battleships showing up shortly after researching just Plasma rifles for my guys. Talk about ridiculous jobs assaulting landed UFOs

Base assaults still give me the creeps

Eomer · 02-07-2012, 11:42 AM

TFTD was improved in some respects, I agree. But there was annoying shit as well. As someone already mentioned, the cruise ship missions were dick-poundingly frustrating because of all the small rooms and doors. Half your initial weaponry wasn't usable on land. There were a few other things I remember being a piss off as well, but I've long since forgotten.

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02-05-2012, 04:14 PM	#171 (permalink)
Ashes Emberblade I Do It For The Segs Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: NOLA Posts: 2,633 -118 Internets	I enjoy playing superhuman and only saving to exit. Lose a few missions, a few countries defect and get alien bases in them, game gets very hard very fast.

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nosf Registered User Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 1,473 +13 Internets	The ocean liner missions killed TFTD for me, god that was some tedious shit.

02-07-2012, 11:42 AM	#180 (permalink)
Eomer You mean I can change this? Neat! Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 18,789 +120 Internets	TFTD was improved in some respects, I agree. But there was annoying shit as well. As someone already mentioned, the cruise ship missions were dick-poundingly frustrating because of all the small rooms and doors. Half your initial weaponry wasn't usable on land. There were a few other things I remember being a piss off as well, but I've long since forgotten.