Heroes of Newerth - Page 21

Ain-Soph-Aur · 07-13-2009, 07:02 PM

And im out already hah

Necrolyte · 07-13-2009, 07:06 PM

You guys are also forgetting that later on, stats will most likely only be recorded in ranked play or ladder play with the matchmaking. There will also be forfeit/concede options, and tons of other things that solve present-patch issues. Over the long run, stats are actually very, very accurate, and very consistent for the average player and represent their skill well, if you look at the whole picture. In the future with even more stats available, we'll be able to make even more accurate decisions on player skill.

Like Fog, in about 60 matches or so now, I've never had the opposing team prolong the game, and I play support most of the time unless I'm playing a high level or league match where I play carries. If you understand the game and play at a high level, you won't be stuck averaging < 1.0 KD as support no matter what pubs you join. With the new rankings metric, assists will be like 0.5 kills. So if you are going 0-9, you should be getting at least 18 assists, otherwise you're underperforming (and will get a negative rating with the new system, give or take).

Urlithani · 07-13-2009, 07:13 PM

I've got 3 beta invites. If I have multiple PM's, FoH forum veterans will (likely) get priority.

Thief · 07-13-2009, 08:28 PM

I only have 20 games or so played but I remember at least 2 games where the other team would become somewhat careless and try to kill us in the well. That was most likely due to their level difference. When you're level 15ish and the other team is level 20+, they sure didn't mind trying to land a few hit/crits on the squishy heroes trying to heal.

Although, I really don't mind about the stats. As Necrolyte said, they are actually accurate in giving us an idea on the player.

Believe · 07-13-2009, 10:24 PM

The community in this game is complete ass.

Actually starting to debate whether I want to spend $30 or whatever to have to deal with these retards, or whether I just shouldn't waste my time and money.

Fog · 07-13-2009, 10:30 PM

Don't assume it will get better, because it will not. There is no DotA "community." There are leagues and clans, and then there are pub games. If you don't have friends playing, and you aren't going to seek out friends to play with, then don't bother.

It's possible that pub games will be more fun and competitive if there's a good ranking and rating system, and enjoy a much higher quality of play. However, the players will still be egomaniac assholes.

possible · 07-13-2009, 10:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Fog

Don't assume it will get better, because it will not. There is no DotA "community." There are leagues and clans, and then there are pub games. If you don't have friends playing, and you aren't going to seek out friends to play with, then don't bother.

Pretty much. Unless you're playing with people you know, it usually sucks. Love having an entire team of agi carry expecting to do something vs a team of well coordinated stunners.

Faille · 07-14-2009, 12:25 AM

had an epic in house game that lasted 1 hour 30 min ish. went back and forth a few times, but in the end, I think the Madman was the key in the other team winning out. Just no way to kill him at the end.

CyrusReij · 07-14-2009, 12:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Faille

had an epic in house game that lasted 1 hour 30 min ish. went back and forth a few times, but in the end, I think the Madman was the key in the other team winning out. Just no way to kill him at the end.

Did he...... do a barrel roll?

sumdain x · 07-14-2009, 03:37 AM

well i love the game but i am absolutely horrible at it out of all the " newb " games ive joined ive been in last place =/ the forums wont work for me i get the savage forums but not the HoN one, is there a guide to items or player guides floating around anywhere? i spend way too much time looking at the item screen it seems.

Hathe · 07-14-2009, 05:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Faille

had an epic in house game that lasted 1 hour 30 min ish. went back and forth a few times, but in the end, I think the Madman was the key in the other team winning out. Just no way to kill him at the end.

I didn't have too much of an issue killing Madman as Arachna late game. Crits are definitely key.

Vithe · 07-14-2009, 06:06 AM

I still have 2 invites left. PM email address.

Tallyn · 07-14-2009, 06:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sumdain x

the forums wont work for me i get the savage forums but not the HoN one, is there a guide to items or player guides floating around anywhere? i spend way too much time looking at the item screen it seems.

Use your login on the forum page. The HoN forums are hidden from everyone except testers. There are tons of guides on the strategy forums.

Brand · 07-14-2009, 08:49 AM

For those of you that play dota, here is a quick reference for which heroes equal which in HoN. Its rough, but it should help you when you first start out. Also, hitting " toggles the health bars on and off.

Spoiler Alert, click show to read:

Vithe · 07-14-2009, 08:51 AM

That is such a NDA break......

07-13-2009, 07:06 PM	#302 (permalink)
Necrolyte Registered User Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Washington Posts: 855	You guys are also forgetting that later on, stats will most likely only be recorded in ranked play or ladder play with the matchmaking. There will also be forfeit/concede options, and tons of other things that solve present-patch issues. Over the long run, stats are actually very, very accurate, and very consistent for the average player and represent their skill well, if you look at the whole picture. In the future with even more stats available, we'll be able to make even more accurate decisions on player skill. Like Fog, in about 60 matches or so now, I've never had the opposing team prolong the game, and I play support most of the time unless I'm playing a high level or league match where I play carries. If you understand the game and play at a high level, you won't be stuck averaging < 1.0 KD as support no matter what pubs you join. With the new rankings metric, assists will be like 0.5 kills. So if you are going 0-9, you should be getting at least 18 assists, otherwise you're underperforming (and will get a negative rating with the new system, give or take). __________________ Last edited by Necrolyte; 07-13-2009 at 07:16 PM..

07-13-2009, 08:28 PM	#304 (permalink)
Thief . Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Canada Posts: 64	I only have 20 games or so played but I remember at least 2 games where the other team would become somewhat careless and try to kill us in the well. That was most likely due to their level difference. When you're level 15ish and the other team is level 20+, they sure didn't mind trying to land a few hit/crits on the squishy heroes trying to heal. Although, I really don't mind about the stats. As Necrolyte said, they are actually accurate in giving us an idea on the player. Last edited by Thief; 07-14-2009 at 12:11 AM..

07-13-2009, 10:24 PM	#305 (permalink)
Believe Whiskey Tango Foxtrot Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 3,559	The community in this game is complete ass. Actually starting to debate whether I want to spend $30 or whatever to have to deal with these retards, or whether I just shouldn't waste my time and money. __________________

07-13-2009, 10:30 PM	#306 (permalink)
Fog Registered User Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 1,996 -1 Internets	Don't assume it will get better, because it will not. There is no DotA "community." There are leagues and clans, and then there are pub games. If you don't have friends playing, and you aren't going to seek out friends to play with, then don't bother. It's possible that pub games will be more fun and competitive if there's a good ranking and rating system, and enjoy a much higher quality of play. However, the players will still be egomaniac assholes. Last edited by Fog; 07-13-2009 at 10:41 PM..

07-14-2009, 12:25 AM	#308 (permalink)
Faille Fires of Heaven Officer Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Melbourne, Australia Posts: 3,668 +30 Internets	had an epic in house game that lasted 1 hour 30 min ish. went back and forth a few times, but in the end, I think the Madman was the key in the other team winning out. Just no way to kill him at the end. __________________ Faille Fires of Heaven http://www.fohguild.org/forums/uberw...lopment-forum/

07-13-2009, 07:02 PM	#301 (permalink)
Ain-Soph-Aur Registered User Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 95 +4 Internets	And im out already hah

07-13-2009, 07:13 PM	#303 (permalink)
Urlithani I lieks bacon! Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Palm Beach, FL Posts: 410 -10 Internets	I've got 3 beta invites. If I have multiple PM's, FoH forum veterans will (likely) get priority.

07-14-2009, 03:37 AM	#310 (permalink)
sumdain x Registered User Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 124	well i love the game but i am absolutely horrible at it out of all the " newb " games ive joined ive been in last place =/ the forums wont work for me i get the savage forums but not the HoN one, is there a guide to items or player guides floating around anywhere? i spend way too much time looking at the item screen it seems. __________________ Bad at HoN

07-14-2009, 06:06 AM	#312 (permalink)
Vithe Registered User Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Florida Posts: 458 -4 Internets	I still have 2 invites left. PM email address.

07-14-2009, 08:49 AM	#314 (permalink)
Brand Prince of Nothing Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Chicago Posts: 284 -1 Internets	For those of you that play dota, here is a quick reference for which heroes equal which in HoN. Its rough, but it should help you when you first start out. Also, hitting " toggles the health bars on and off. Spoiler Alert, click show to read: LEGION - Arachna - New? Chronos - Dark Terror Slither - Venomancer Bloodhunter - Blood Seeker Madman - New? Weaver? Soulstealer - Nevermore Dark Lady - New? Defiler - Krobolus Glacius - Crystal Maiden Hellbringer - New? Warlock? Puppet Master - New? Demented Shaman - Dazzle Voodoo Jester - Witch Doctor Torturer - Leshrac? Accursed - Abbadon Devourer - Pudge Electrician - Storm/Old Medusa Kraken - Tidehunter? New? Pharaoh - Clockwerk Pestilence - Slardar War Beast - Lycan HELLBOURNE - Night Hound - Stealth Assassin Swiftblade - Yunero Magebane - Antimage Moon Queen - Luna Scout - Gondar? New? Wildsoul - Syllabear Blacksmith - Ogre Magi Nymphora - New? Ezalor? Pitlord? Thunderbringer - Zues Pollywog Priest - Rhasta Pyromancer - Lina Tempest - Enigma Zephyr - New Armadon - Bristleback Behemoth - Earthshaker Hammerstorm - Sven (old) Jereziah - Omniknight (no degen) Legionnaire - Axe Predator - Naix? New? Pebbles - Tiny Keeper of the Forest - Rooftrellen Last edited by Brand; 07-14-2009 at 09:00 AM..

07-14-2009, 08:51 AM	#315 (permalink)
Vithe Registered User Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Florida Posts: 458 -4 Internets	That is such a NDA break......

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