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Northerner · 07-10-2009, 02:41 PM

We shall see.

I haven't had an opportunity to beta SC2 yet but from what I have seen it is much more like WCIII in terms of clean pathing and high baked-in unit AI. That's great for casual players but takes out a lot of the interest at the pro level when the macro and micro game can be pulled off by mere mortals and it becomes more of a game of unit counters and nothing else. It'll come along eventually but I can't imagine SC at launch will be balanced, nevermind interesting at the pro level.

Zaphid · 07-12-2009, 04:45 AM

GomTV Jaedong vs Effort-must watch ZvZ

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Disp · 07-12-2009, 08:00 PM

This video rocks

Rica86 · 07-13-2009, 04:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Zaphid

GomTV Jaedong vs Effort-must watch ZvZ

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Gankak · 07-13-2009, 10:01 AM

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Gankak · 07-13-2009, 04:55 PM

For you old school fans the following are the first games of the e-stars matches:
Savior v Kingdom
YouTube - sAviOr vs Kingdom [13 July, 2009] Game 2 @ E-Stars Seoul StarCraft HERITAGE

Boxer v Reach
YouTube - SlayerS_'BoxeR' vs [Oops]Reach [13 July, 2009] Game 2 @ E-Stars Seoul StarCraft HERITAGE

NaDa v Nal_rA
YouTube - Nal_rA vs [ReD]NaDa [13 July, 2009] Game 1 @ E-Stars Seoul StarCraft HERITAGE

YellOw v ToSsGirL
YouTube - ToSsGirL vs [NC]..YellOw [13 July, 2009] Game 1 @ E-Stars Seoul StarCraft HERITAGE

They aren't embedded because its been disabled by request I assume from the account holder.

CnCGOD · 07-16-2009, 02:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Northerner

We shall see.

I haven't had an opportunity to beta SC2 yet but from what I have seen it is much more like WCIII in terms of clean pathing and high baked-in unit AI. That's great for casual players but takes out a lot of the interest at the pro level when the macro and micro game can be pulled off by mere mortals and it becomes more of a game of unit counters and nothing else. It'll come along eventually but I can't imagine SC at launch will be balanced, nevermind interesting at the pro level.

Heaven forbid a strategy game favoring strategy over how precisely one clicks.

bobyab · 07-16-2009, 02:30 PM

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Heaven forbid a strategy game favoring strategy over how precisely one clicks.

Ya, except that this is Real Time Strategy (RTS), not turn based. Speed & precision have always been ways to overcome superior strategy and definitely something that makes these games so unpredictable & exciting.

Zaphid · 07-17-2009, 12:44 AM

Yeah, the fact that it can't be played perfectly is something that keeps the pro scene interesting to watch

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Tortfeasor · 07-17-2009, 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Gankak

For you old school fans the following are the first games of the e-stars matches:
Savior v Kingdom
YouTube - sAviOr vs Kingdom [13 July, 2009] Game 2 @ E-Stars Seoul StarCraft HERITAGE

Boxer v Reach
YouTube - SlayerS_'BoxeR' vs [Oops]Reach [13 July, 2009] Game 2 @ E-Stars Seoul StarCraft HERITAGE

NaDa v Nal_rA
YouTube - Nal_rA vs [ReD]NaDa [13 July, 2009] Game 1 @ E-Stars Seoul StarCraft HERITAGE

YellOw v ToSsGirL
YouTube - ToSsGirL vs [NC]..YellOw [13 July, 2009] Game 1 @ E-Stars Seoul StarCraft HERITAGE

They aren't embedded because its been disabled by request I assume from the account holder.

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Northerner · 07-17-2009, 12:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CnCGOD

Heaven forbid a strategy game favoring strategy over how precisely one clicks.

Well, it will certainly help make players like me far more competitive. I'm simply way too old to have the twitch of a 17 year old Korean kid.

That reliance on APM (in conjunction with serious strategic and game-quirk knowledge) is what makes pro starcraft tick though and when you take that out, you get the WCIII scene. That's not inherently bad or anything but I don't exactly watch those matches either. I like watching those kids do obscene micromanagement while also making solid strategic decisions and the very fact that it is insane makes it captivating. Watch a few of the PoV casts to get a feel of what is really going on there at the player level.

Gankak · 07-18-2009, 09:10 AM

Pro-league playoffs have started up. Find the first round of games here:

Small Vod Thread. - Page 290

Disp · 07-18-2009, 06:05 PM

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Gankak · 07-18-2009, 07:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Disp

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Ichu · 07-19-2009, 05:15 AM

Not sure if it's been posted but TL has a good number of FPVOD's from the MSL on their Youtube account.

YouTube - Show me the MSL E01 UpMagic vs Canata [15 January, 2008]

07-13-2009, 10:01 AM	#1010 (permalink)
Gankak Registered User Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 169 -2 Internets	Spoiler Alert, click show to read: Dude they found someone who looks JUST like Jaedong but plays horrible. The Tempest games, I am having a hard time reconciling the good toss player that rolled Berzerker in g2 with the horrid player that lost g3. And with Jaedong out, I have to go with a Flash v Effort finals, with Flash winning imo.

07-18-2009, 06:05 PM	#1018 (permalink)
Disp Registered User Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: CA Posts: 815 +6 Internets	Spoiler Alert, click show to read: Man Bisu is a damn fine player and so is Fantasy...but Fantasy just looks like a fucking amateur every time he plays him for some reason. He just gets schooled so hard haha.

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07-10-2009, 02:41 PM	#1006 (permalink)
Northerner Shiny Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Calgary Posts: 1,761	We shall see. I haven't had an opportunity to beta SC2 yet but from what I have seen it is much more like WCIII in terms of clean pathing and high baked-in unit AI. That's great for casual players but takes out a lot of the interest at the pro level when the macro and micro game can be pulled off by mere mortals and it becomes more of a game of unit counters and nothing else. It'll come along eventually but I can't imagine SC at launch will be balanced, nevermind interesting at the pro level.

07-12-2009, 08:00 PM	#1008 (permalink)
Disp Registered User Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: CA Posts: 815 +6 Internets	This video rocks

07-13-2009, 04:55 PM	#1011 (permalink)
Gankak Registered User Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 169 -2 Internets	For you old school fans the following are the first games of the e-stars matches: Savior v Kingdom YouTube - sAviOr vs Kingdom [13 July, 2009] Game 2 @ E-Stars Seoul StarCraft HERITAGE Boxer v Reach YouTube - SlayerS_'BoxeR' vs [Oops]Reach [13 July, 2009] Game 2 @ E-Stars Seoul StarCraft HERITAGE NaDa v Nal_rA YouTube - Nal_rA vs [ReD]NaDa [13 July, 2009] Game 1 @ E-Stars Seoul StarCraft HERITAGE YellOw v ToSsGirL YouTube - ToSsGirL vs [NC]..YellOw [13 July, 2009] Game 1 @ E-Stars Seoul StarCraft HERITAGE They aren't embedded because its been disabled by request I assume from the account holder.

07-18-2009, 09:10 AM	#1017 (permalink)
Gankak Registered User Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 169 -2 Internets	Pro-league playoffs have started up. Find the first round of games here: Small Vod Thread. - Page 290

07-19-2009, 05:15 AM	#1020 (permalink)
Ichu Registered User Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Calgary, Canada Posts: 362 +7 Internets	Not sure if it's been posted but TL has a good number of FPVOD's from the MSL on their Youtube account. YouTube - Show me the MSL E01 UpMagic vs Canata [15 January, 2008]