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| | #557 (permalink) |
| Mmm Caffeine Makes It All Better Join Date: Aug 2007
Posts: 4,190
| new fun bug: I'm winning a game just in the middle of pwning 5 ppl and BAM game dies. Cant reconnect no credit for it whatsoever. Doesn't show up as a loss or a leave or a win. Just 45 mins of my wasted fuckin time. |
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| | #559 (permalink) |
| Registered User Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: California
Posts: 339
| thought you all were heading over to HoN, havent seen you online at all when i am on!
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| | #561 (permalink) |
| Registered User Join Date: Jun 2009
Posts: 82
+2 Internets | I've come to the conclusion that tanks need to be fixed. Right now they have survivability, CC, DPS and nearly everyone of them has some form of get out of jail free card. Survivability and CC is fine, but with the other 2 things there is no reason to not play one. Their CC abilities are fine and how a tank should be, controling the flow of battle. The damage of said abilities need to be toned down though. Give us a reason to play a DPS hero. The get out of jail card is just the final fuck you. Oh you managed to get my 4k hp and 200 armor down while I'm doing more damage than your Teemo or Twitch? LoL my super shield is up and I get away and all my abilities will be back up in 30 seconds. Wouldn't be bad if it was just one hero, but like i said tons of them have that super skill. Haha while looking at the heroes, I see Malphite isn't listed as a tank? Holy shit. That hero needs nerfs across the board, starting with his passive shield ability taking much longer to come back and being a flat number instead of a percentage. Also, a few items that need to be tweaked: Sheen and the other items that enhance damage on the next strike. They need to only only work on regular hits. Working on stuff like Nasus siphoning strike and Blitzcrank's fist is just silly. Probably needs to double the cool down as well, 3 seconds when the abilities that are being used are 3 seconds is just too quick. Sunfire Cape - Needs to be an aura that doesn't stack. And no, I'm not complaining about one guy buying 3-4 capes. I'm talking about every member of a 5 tank team buying a single cape. |
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| | #562 (permalink) |
| Badger Diplomacy Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: The Dairy State
Posts: 6,996
| I'm not for changes of any kind until we've got a load of level 30 people with full sets of appropriate runes. I don't disagree that tanks are a bit ridiculous but physical dps also doesn't have any crit dmg runes right now either. |
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| | #563 (permalink) |
| Flaccid Steel | No major tweaks should be made until runes are out. Going from beta to wipe, the game changed drastically in terms of power. Tanks like Malaphite is strong even with runes, but loses his edge when carry dps obtains runes. With crit heroes like Yi, Ashe or Tryn, they gain a massive dps boost from crit damage runes that can rip through a lot of tank heroes. They get infinity's edge and can crit 600 damage. |
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| | #564 (permalink) |
| Mmm Caffeine Makes It All Better Join Date: Aug 2007
Posts: 4,190
| I only like him when you play him. He's worthless when anyone else I've seen plays him. There's just certain characters I cringe to see on my team/get excited when the other team has them: Annie Evelynn Alistar Mundo Karthas Janna Fiddlesticks |
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| | #565 (permalink) |
| Registered User Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: California
Posts: 339
| Annie Evelynn Alistar Mundo Karthas Janna Fiddlesticks Its gotten to the point in my games that if a teammate selects karthus or janna, I drop out and get a new game. There is absolutely no point in bothering to play. Both of those heroes are just awful. In all of the games I have played I have seen ONE good Janna. Annie is still hit or miss, evelynn can still be a rape train. I disagree with fiddle and mundo, I think they are both top tier heros. Fiddle has close to AE silence in team battles and fear is just icing. Mundo has great tools and just becomes a beast you cant catch. Fuck matchmaking in the god damn ear.
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| | #566 (permalink) |
| Flaccid Steel | What's with the Karthus hate? I like him though most people suck ass with him. I also agree with Fiddlestick. He's not an easy hero to play but probably one of the strongest team players if played right. Mundo is also pretty good. He's not as bad as people say he is. His ultimate is just full of win. |
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| | #567 (permalink) |
| Unfortunately Curious Join Date: May 2006 Location: 30 minutes from everywhere
Posts: 551
| Karthus's problem is that everything he does is pretty much done better by someone else. For shear nuking-power, Veigar is far ahead and Event Horizon is far better than Karthus's wall. The Lich has a unique ult but frankly I'd rather have something that helps right away in a big team battle instead of something that'll finish off a hero or two once in a while. Etoille, that list makes me want to go through it and play each of those heroes with you just so you can see how they're supposed to be played :P Mundo is probably the only one on there I really wouldn't want to play, his gimmick is surviving and I'd rather just play Maplhite for that. Mundo's other tools just fall behind other tanks, much like Karthus. Maybe that good Janna was me? She's really solid support. I actually like playing support heroes AS support heroes though, so that gives me an edge~ Hard to beat Zilean or Soraka for support hero dickery though. I'd started underestimating Fiddlestick lately because most people that play him now suck ass with him, but last game I played the enemy Fiddle got a triple kill and at least a couple double kills on us. His damage can just ruin you if you're in the wrong place. |
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| | #568 (permalink) |
| Analyst and Therapist Join Date: Aug 2006
Posts: 3,066
| Fiddlesticks is fucking amazing, unless they nerfed him in the past few weeks. One of my favorite heroes. He's AWESOME for early harassment, and his ultimate + blink DESTROYS. Not to mention his fear, which works great with a few team mates around to pick the enemy hero off.
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| | #569 (permalink) |
| Flaccid Steel | What makes Fiddle so strong now is that he can blink in with fear from the forest and use dark wind. Absolutely rips through a team and that's not even accounting for his 3s fear. If you have fiddle on your team and do a team battle in the forest, chances of losing is so small. Of course, competence is accounted for. Believe, they "balanced" fiddlesticks a bit. All his abilities got scaled. Fear lost .5 duration, life drain lost some damage, ulti lost some damage iirc, don't remember about darkwind. However, all his ability's cooldown also got lowered significantly. They did that awhile ago so you probably know about it. For shear nuking power, there are a heap of heroes better than Karthus, but that's not what Karthus is about. Early to mid game he relies on his land mine ability but moving on to late game, his aura ability (the third skill the name escapes me) just does too much damage and with a huge radius to boot. Think about it like this: it does lower damage than fiddlesticks ultimate but can be kept on for much longer, no cooldown and a bigger radius. It's less burst DPS but it's a lot of sustained to the whole team on top of his land mines which does a respectable amount. A lot of people also use Karthus' ultimate wrong. Hate people who use it solely to jack kills. Last edited by The Dauntless One; 11-08-2009 at 09:13 PM.. |
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| | #570 (permalink) |
| Badger Diplomacy Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: The Dairy State
Posts: 6,996
| I would agree that Fiddlesticks is very good as a character but I can't even remember the last scarecrow I was with that wasn't terrible. Karthus, Janna, Warwick, and Ev are just bad heroes and I really never want to see them on my team. What really bothers me right now is how "solved" the game is and how that has lead to there being a whole mess of seldom played, second tier heroes. Sion, Trynd, Taric, Tristana, Sivir, Nunu, Ryze, Jax, Kayle, Annie, Shaco, Alistar, Rammus, and Heimier are all filler. As long as the player is decent I don't really give a shit about any of them one way or the other. I'm much more concerned about chaining Malphite ultra into Pirate ultimate into Amumu ultimate while those other two guys wreck up the joint. Who those two guys are? Barely even care. |
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