Dragon Age Thread(Spoilers) - Page 81

Pyros · 11-07-2009, 08:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hateyou

What do you mean he sides with the assassins? Do you already have him and he sides with them?

I got an assassin cutscene when trying to travel, right after I did the mage tower, kicked all their asses, then went through a dialogue with him and he joined me.

Na it's much later, like I'm in Denerim travelling between the areas, and I get jumped by another assassin who seems to know Zevran or whatever, then Zevran comes and he's like eh dude and they joke around, then Zevran is like sorry Grey Warden, let's go again, we fight, and he sucks just as much as first time but this time he dies. He's at +64relationship too, or somewhere around that. Anyway I'll see if completing the crow trials fix it, it should I guess, else I'll just kill his stupid ass and get the book to learn about assassins, never used him in my party anyway. Just found stupid that you don't get any way to convince him to stay on your side like you can when stuff like that usually happens(like with Wynne when you get her, wrong dialogue choices will make her attack you multiple times, but right ones make it ok for her to group with a blood mage, an apostate and a golem)

Dro · 11-07-2009, 09:02 AM

I used the console to remove spell wisp and give myself force field. The game is now quite a bit more fun.

I ran into this side quest for refugees (15 darkspawn and 1 orange name caster darkspawn) I left my party at the entrance area and soloed the 15 darkspawn without any trouble.

Whoever commented on momentum earlier is absolutely right. I positioned the gay elf assassin behind the caster once the tank was on it. Mark of death > death strike (i think its called) and momentum, and of course a swift kick to the balls (forget the name of the ability). I don't think I've ever seen an "elite" die so fast. I am using The Edge as his mainhand, even though daggers are apparently bugged. I guess you don't get a dex bonus to dmg for daggers, though intended. The demon ichor poison that procs stun is also rather amazing. I find myself manually controlling the assassin quite often.

I used the console to also check out earthquake. No cast time, knockdown spam, targeted large AE. This could possibly be one of the most OP spells in the game.

budrick · 11-07-2009, 09:04 AM

Wondering what platform most people are using.
I was thinking of getting a PS3 anyways, so am wondering about control feedback while playing on the console.

Does anyone think its easier/harder on the PC rather than the console?

Blank · 11-07-2009, 09:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by budrick

Wondering what platform most people are using.
I was thinking of getting a PS3 anyways, so am wondering about control feedback while playing on the console.

Does anyone think its easier/harder on the PC rather than the console?

I've actually read (heard?) that the encounters are "nerfed" in console versions (less enemies or something?). Can't recall if it was the gametrailers review or where though :|

Adere · 11-07-2009, 09:15 AM

I looked the console commands but how do you change individual spells? This was the page I was looking at.

Dragon Age: Origins - The Missing Manual >> cheats

Pyros · 11-07-2009, 09:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Dro

I used the console to also check out earthquake. No cast time, knockdown spam, targeted large AE. This could possibly be one of the most OP spells in the game.

It quite often fails completely to stun stuff though, and the blood magic stun is better, it's not purely instant since you throw a projectile before it starts, but it doesn't hit allies so you can cast it wherever you want and hit the mobs while they're stunned and does much more damage. Also 20secs cooldown when EQ is on like 40secs iirc. Obviously it requires a specialization so that's the downside, but it's basically the best spell in the game(on its own, I guess forcefield combined with other spells is simply stupid), and alone makes blood magic worth taking. Well really, it's the only good blood magic spell.

Could you post what the commands are exactly btw, like how you find which ability to add and stuff, I checked quickly the other day but it seemed it didn't tell you what are the correct spell IDs and didn't wanna try stuff for hours, but I wanna test every spells in various conditions see which are good to take on my 2nd playthrough.

Adam12 · 11-07-2009, 09:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Blank

I've actually read (heard?) that the encounters are "nerfed" in console versions (less enemies or something?). Can't recall if it was the gametrailers review or where though :|

Yeah, my roommate is playing on PC and I'm playing on 360, both on normal. His fights definitely have more mobs on average, and normal on console = no friendly fire, but 50% on PC.

PC is far superior though, the UI is 100000x better.

Vorph · 11-07-2009, 09:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Dro

Whoever commented on momentum earlier is absolutely right. I positioned the gay elf assassin behind the caster once the tank was on it. Mark of death > death strike (i think its called) and momentum, and of course a swift kick to the balls (forget the name of the ability). I don't think I've ever seen an "elite" die so fast. I am using The Edge as his mainhand, even though daggers are apparently bugged. I guess you don't get a dex bonus to dmg for daggers, though intended. The demon ichor poison that procs stun is also rather amazing. I find myself manually controlling the assassin quite often.

Yup, momentum owns.

Daggers' dex bonus can be fixed with the hotfix at Dragon Age: Origins - The Missing Manual >> items:weapons ...

I also end up controlling my rogue all the time, mainly because there's no tactic for positioning. If you want to backstab you have to do it manually, which pretty much means that having two rogues in a party is worthless, unless one of them is Leliana and you don't mind her awful bow dps.

AtwaKom · 11-07-2009, 09:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Vorph

Yup, momentum owns.

Daggers' dex bonus can be fixed with the hotfix at Dragon Age: Origins - The Missing Manual >> items:weapons ...

I also end up controlling my rogue all the time, mainly because there's no tactic for positioning. If you want to backstab you have to do it manually, which pretty much means that having two rogues in a party is worthless, unless one of them is Leliana and you don't mind her awful bow dps.

That fix says to put it in the override folder? I must be retarded because I don't see it. I'm gonna blame any stupidity on it being early and me staying up late playing this terrific game.

ashatumar · 11-07-2009, 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Tripamang

There seems to be issues in general with cut scenes because I get get problems on the PC version. The sound will be fine but the animation will pause momentarily for no reason. Might be more related to my setup then anything, no way to tell. (2560x1600 4870x2)

Huge scenes with trees and shadows render fine.. but god forbid we animate some talking

Kotaku review articulates the issues I'm seeing:

Dragon Age: Origins Review: Tripping The Blight Fantastic - Dragon age: origins - Kotaku

Not an actual spoiler, but a quote from the linked article:

Spoiler Alert, click show to read:

Gamestop won't let me exchange for a 360 copy, which didn't surprise me. What did surprise me is that they're only paying $25 trade-in. I'm just going to suck it up and stick with the PS3 copy.

Quineloe · 11-07-2009, 10:38 AM

Don't know about you, but I think caste systems are the most evil social order we ever came up with. Nobility just places a few above everyone else, caste systems also place a lot of people below everyone else and treats them like shit.

a culture believing in a caste system can go to hell for all I care. That's why I wrecked the anvil.

That and I want to get into some pants.

Vorph · 11-07-2009, 10:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AtwaKom

That fix says to put it in the override folder? I must be retarded because I don't see it. I'm gonna blame any stupidity on it being early and me staying up late playing this terrific game.

Mine's at:
C:\Users\Vorph\Documents\BioWare\Dragon Age\packages\core\override
on Windows 7.

It would be something like:
C:\Documents and Settings\Vorph\My Documents\BioWare\Dragon Age\packages\core\override
on XP.

Not sure why he changed the instructions to say "underneath the game's installation location" because it used to say the path above (which is correct).

Malakie Torsade · 11-07-2009, 11:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vorph

Yup, momentum owns.

Yeah, I want to get it on my main char now that I've seen it on Zevran but don't know if I'll have enough points. I throw the stamina regen on him and he'll go quite awhile.

Quote:

If you want to backstab you have to do it manually, which pretty much means that having two rogues in a party is worthless, unless one of them is Leliana and you don't mind her awful bow dps.

A 2 Rogue setup is fine as long as one of them has the talent which gives them a wider flanking range.

Dro · 11-07-2009, 11:52 AM

Console commands:

If you are running via steam like I am, right click on the game in the games list. Choose properties and then launch command i believe it was. Add in the following where the box asks for text

-enabledeveloperconsole

if you arent using steam, just add it to the target box of the properties of the shortcut (don't forget the space)

In game hit ~

You wont see a damn thing, start typing and the upper section of the screen fills with a character map. Hit enter when you are done typing.

If you find you cant move or click anything, the developer console is still open, hit enter once. It's invisible so you won't see anything you type.

Now for the list

Spoiler Alert, click show to read:

Bristlebane · 11-07-2009, 11:53 AM

The great thing about Dragon Age is the dialog, and the many choices you can make. The hallmark of a great single player RPG is knowing you can actually affect the world in more than two different ways. Much credit to the engine, too. It runs great on a two year old computer, and the combat is fun.

One problem I have with this game: The characters are utterly boring. I'm not going to remember these people very long after I finish playing the game. The characters are wooden, cookie-cutter classic fantasy RPG types. They could be more bland and cliched, but nonetheless.

Remember these guys? Yes? Why? Because they were fucking interesting and had unique backgrounds and stories.

11-07-2009, 11:52 AM	#1214 (permalink)
Dro Registered User Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 112 -10 Internets	Console commands: If you are running via steam like I am, right click on the game in the games list. Choose properties and then launch command i believe it was. Add in the following where the box asks for text -enabledeveloperconsole if you arent using steam, just add it to the target box of the properties of the shortcut (don't forget the space) In game hit ~ You wont see a damn thing, start typing and the upper section of the screen fills with a character map. Hit enter when you are done typing. If you find you cant move or click anything, the developer console is still open, hit enter once. It's invisible so you won't see anything you type. Now for the list Spoiler Alert, click show to read: runscript addxp X - X = amount runscript zz_money X - X = amount i.e. runscript zz_money 1000000 would give you 100 gold runscript zz_addparty X - X = Name of Party Member you want to add runscript zz_addapproval X Y - X = Party# Y = Amount i.e runscript zz_addapproval 1 100 adds 100 approval to Alistair 1 - Alistair 3 - Morrigan 5 - Shale 6 - Sten 7 - Zevran 9 - Leliana runscript ai off - Turns off AI runscript selectparty - Party selection screen runscript chargen - Origin screen runscript pc_immortal - Player can't be killed. To use, enter command when desired player/party member is the active wsad controllable character. runscript killallhostiles - Kills attackers runscript zz_dropparty - Removes entire party runscript zz_pre_demo2 - Teleports player and party to Ostagar, may have other use runscript zz_pre_strategy - Teleports player and party to Duncan's fire in Ostagar, may have other use runscript zz_talk_nearest - Talk to nearest NPC, don't think it applies to party members runscript warrior - Makes player Warrior runscript rogue - Makes Player Rouge runscript wizard - Makes player Wizard runscript setplayerimmortal - Same as pc_immortal runscript healplayer - Instantly heals all party members runscript zz_givearmor - Adds Dragonbone Legion Armor to inventory runscript cheat - Inspired: Major Cunning: Adds 30 armor and 100 defense to Party for 120 seconds runscript zz_party_addgifts - Adds the following gifts to inventory: -Antivan Leather Boots -Dalish Gloves -Alistair's Mother's Amulet -Duncan's Shield -Andraste's Grace -Cute Nug -Golden Mirror -Black Grimoire -Flemeth's Grimoire -Sten's Sword runscript bowlingforferelden - ? runscript zz_char_creation - ? runscript zz_override_skills - ? runscript AddEnemyToParty - ? runscript RemoveEnemyFromParty - ? runscript healbadger - ? TALENTS, SPELLS, & SKILLS runscript addtalent X - i.e. runscript addtalent 4020 would add Rogue to the active player/party runscript removetalent X - Removes given talent Note: Talents, Spells, & Skills all use the same addtalentremovetalent commands. Talents are unique to Warriors and Rogues and will not appear on Mages. Spells are unique to Mages and will not appear on Warriors or Rogues. Champion: Activate main Specialization first. Talents: 1 Branch 4013 - Main 3037 - War Cry 3038 - Rally 42 - Motivate 3039 - Superiority Assassin: Activate main Specialization first. Talents: 1 Branch 4014 - Main 3060 - Mark of Death 56 - Exploit Weakness 3059 - Lacerate 3058 - Feast of the Fallen Bard: Activate main Specialization first. Talents: 1 Branch 4015 - Main 3045 - Song of Valor 701 - Distraction 705 - Song of Courage 1000 - Captivating Song Berserker: Activate main Specialization first. Talents: 1 Branch 4016 - Main 700 - Berserk 48 - Resilience 3006 - Constraint 3009 - Final Blow Reaver: Activate main Specialization first. Talents: 1 Branch 4019 - Main 3065 - Devour 3066 - Frightening Appearance 3067 - Aura of Pain 713 - Blood Frenzy Rogue: Activate main first. Talents: 4 Branches 4020 - Main 603 - Dirty Fighting 21 - Combat Movement 3002 - Coup De Grace 3023 - Feign Death 3026 - Below the Belt 708 - Deadly Strike 777 - Lethality 3069 - Evasion 100001 - Deft Hands 100002 - Improved Tools 100003 - Mechanical Expertise 100004 - Device Mastery 100075 - Stealth 100076 - Stealthy Item Use 100077 - Combat Stealth 100078 - Master Stealth Templar: Activate main Specialization first. Talents: 1 Branch 4021 - Main 23 - Righteous Strike 3017 - Cleanse Area 52 - Mental Fortress 25 - Holy Smite Warrior: Activate main first. Talents: 2 Branches 4022 - Main 14 - Powerful 808 - Threaten 17 - Bravery 3021 - Death Blow 19 - Precise Striking 3041 - Taunt 3016 - Disengage 20 - Perfect Striking Ranger: Activate main Specialization first. Talents: 1 Branch 4029 - Main 1004 - Summon Wolf 91 - Summon Bear 93 - Summon Spider 92 - Master Ranger Duelist: Activate main Specialization first. Talents: 1 Branch 4030 - Main 709 - Dueling 3050 - Upset Balance 3049 - Keen Defense 3051 - Pinpoint Strike Shale: 4033 War Dog: Activate main Specialization first. Talents: 2 Branches 4034 - Main 90017 - Growl 90048 - Dread Howl 90049 - Combat Training 90015 - Overwhelm 90050 - Fortitude 90016 - Charge 90047 - Shred 90051 - Nemesis Dual Weapon: Talents: 3 Branches 6 - Dual-Weapon Training 8 - Dual-Weapon Finesse 5 - Dual-Weapon Expert 3036 - Dual-Weapon Mastery 11 - Dual Striking 9 - Riposte 10 - Cripple 7 - Punisher 3044 - Dual-Weapon Sweep 3035 - Flurry 717 - Momentum 3043 - Whirlwind Weapon and Shield: Talents: 3 Branches 617 - Shield Bash 1 - Shield Pummel 3073 - Overpower 38 - Assault 704 - Shield Defense 37 - Shield Balance 12 - Shield Wall 36 - Shield Expertise 3074 - Shield Block 13 - Shield Cover 3030 - Shield Tactics 2 - Shield Mastery Two-Handed: Talents: 3 Branches 3024 - Pommel Strike 28 - Indomitable 3000 - Stunning Blows 3 - Critical Strike 3025 - Sunder Arms 3001 - Shattering Blows 4 - Sunder Armor 3032 - Destroyer 3028 - Mighty Blow 718 - Powerful Swings 27 - Two-Handed Strength 3031 - Two-Handed Sweep Archery: Talents: 3 Branches 34 - Melee Archer 500 - Aim 33 - Defensive Fire 35 - Master Archer 803 - Pinning Shot 805 - Crippling Shot 804 - Critical Shot 802 - Arrow of Slaying 3071 - Rapidshot 3072 - Shattering Shot 801 - Surpressing Fire 800 - Scattershot SPELLS Arcane Warrior: Activate main Specialization first. Spells: 1 Branch 4012 - Main 17023 - Combat Magic 17020 - Aura of Might 17022 - Shimmering Shield 17021 - Fade Shroud Blood Mage: Activate main Specialization first. Spells: 1 Branch 4017 - Main 10700 - Blood Magic 10701 - Blood Sacrifice 10702 - Blood Wound 10703 - Blood Control Shapeshifter: Activate main Specialization first. Spells: 1 Branch 4018 - Main 17008 - Spider Shape 17010 - Bear Shape 17007 - Flying Swarm 17009 - Master Shapeshifter Mage: Activate main first. Spells: 1 Branch 4023 - Main 200254 - Arcane Bolt 200255 - Arcane Shield 200256 - Staff Focus 200257 - Arcane Mastery Spirit Healer: Activate main Specialization first. Spells: 1 Branch 4025 - Main 10509 - Group Heal 10504 - Revival 10506 - Lifeward 10507 - Cleansing Aura Primal: Spells: 4 Branches 10001 - Flame Blast 10204 - Flaming Weapons 10003 - Fireball 10002 - Inferno 11002 - Rock Armor 12004 - Stonefist 11116 - Earthquake 11124 - Petrify 13001 - Winter's Grasp 11007 - Frost Weapons 13002 - Cone of Cold 13000 - Blizzard 14001 - Lightning 14000 - Shock 14002 - Tempest 10211 - Chain Lightning Creation: Spells: 4 Branches 10104 - Heal 10200 - Rejuvenate 10210 - Regeneration 10207 - Mass Rejuvenation 10206 - Heroic Offense 10202 - Heroic Aura 10203 - Heroic Defense 10208 - Haste 11001 - Glyph of Paralysis 10601 - Glyph of Warding 17000 - Glyph of Repulsion 17028 - Glyph of Neutralization 11006 - Spell Wisp 11113 - Grease 11005 - Spellbloom 12008 - Stinging Swarm Spirit: Spells: 4 Branches 10400 - Spell Shield 10401 - Dispel Magic 10900 - Anti-Magic Ward 11003 - Anti-Magic Burst 10704 - Mana Drain 11004 - Mana Cleanse 17001 - Spell Might 11000 - Mana Clash 12005 - Walking Bomb 10500 - Death Syphon 12011 - Virulent Walking Bomb 10508 - Animate Dead 12006 - Mind Blast 17019 - Force Field 10209 - Telekinetic Weapons 11123 - Crushing Prison Entropy: Spells: 4 Branches 11106 - Weakness 11107 - Paralyze 11122 - Miasma 11110 - Mass Paralysis 11112 - Vulnerability Hex 11111 - Affliction Hex 11114 - Misdirection Hex 11100 - Death Hex 11115 - Disorient 11108 - Horror 11121 - Sleep 11109 - Waking Nightmare 15002 - Drain Life 17002 - Death Magic 11101 - Curse of Mortality 15003 - Death Cloud SKILLS 4002 - Deletes Skills list entirely! Stealing: 100021 - Stealing 100022 - Improved Stealing 100023 - Expert Stealing 100024 - Master Stealing Trap-Making: 100041 - Trap-Making 100042 - Improved Trap-Making 100043 - Expert Trap-Making 100044 - Master Trap-Making Survival: 100051 - Survival 100052 - Improved Survival 100053 - Expert Survival 100054 - Master Survival Herbalism: 100061 - Herbalism 100062 - Improved Herbalism 100063 - Expert Herbalism 100064 - Master Herbalism Poison-Making: 100071 - Poison-Making 100072 - Improved Poison-Making 100073 - Expert Poison-Making 100074 - Master Poison-Making Combat Training: 100100 - Combat Training 100101 - Improved Combat Training 100102 - Expert Combat Training 100103 - Master Combat Training Combat Tactics: 100110 - Combat Tactics 100111 - Improved Combat Tactics 100112 - Expert Combat Tactics 100113 - Master Combat Tactics Whoops. Coercion: 100011 - Coercion 100012 - Improved Coercion 100013 - Expert Coercion 100014 - Master Coercion

11-07-2009, 11:53 AM	#1215 (permalink)
Bristlebane Registered User Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 2,170	The great thing about Dragon Age is the dialog, and the many choices you can make. The hallmark of a great single player RPG is knowing you can actually affect the world in more than two different ways. Much credit to the engine, too. It runs great on a two year old computer, and the combat is fun. One problem I have with this game: The characters are utterly boring. I'm not going to remember these people very long after I finish playing the game. The characters are wooden, cookie-cutter classic fantasy RPG types. They could be more bland and cliched, but nonetheless. Remember these guys? Yes? Why? Because they were fucking interesting and had unique backgrounds and stories. Attached Images

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11-07-2009, 09:02 AM	#1202 (permalink)
Dro Registered User Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 112 -10 Internets	I used the console to remove spell wisp and give myself force field. The game is now quite a bit more fun. I ran into this side quest for refugees (15 darkspawn and 1 orange name caster darkspawn) I left my party at the entrance area and soloed the 15 darkspawn without any trouble. Whoever commented on momentum earlier is absolutely right. I positioned the gay elf assassin behind the caster once the tank was on it. Mark of death > death strike (i think its called) and momentum, and of course a swift kick to the balls (forget the name of the ability). I don't think I've ever seen an "elite" die so fast. I am using The Edge as his mainhand, even though daggers are apparently bugged. I guess you don't get a dex bonus to dmg for daggers, though intended. The demon ichor poison that procs stun is also rather amazing. I find myself manually controlling the assassin quite often. I used the console to also check out earthquake. No cast time, knockdown spam, targeted large AE. This could possibly be one of the most OP spells in the game.

11-07-2009, 09:04 AM	#1203 (permalink)
budrick Inside Man Join Date: May 2003 Location: Waterloo, Ontario, Canada Posts: 108	Wondering what platform most people are using. I was thinking of getting a PS3 anyways, so am wondering about control feedback while playing on the console. Does anyone think its easier/harder on the PC rather than the console?

11-07-2009, 09:15 AM	#1205 (permalink)
Adere Registered User Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 169 -1 Internets	I looked the console commands but how do you change individual spells? This was the page I was looking at. Dragon Age: Origins - The Missing Manual >> cheats

11-07-2009, 10:38 AM	#1211 (permalink)
Quineloe Hard Rock Hallelujah Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 9,615	Don't know about you, but I think caste systems are the most evil social order we ever came up with. Nobility just places a few above everyone else, caste systems also place a lot of people below everyone else and treats them like shit. a culture believing in a caste system can go to hell for all I care. That's why I wrecked the anvil. That and I want to get into some pants.