Buying a PS3

joz123 · 11-26-2007, 06:23 PM

I wanna get a ps3 and I found a 60GB one on amazon for 450. Is the 60GB one fully backwards compatable? Because I have PS2 games I would like to play on it also and was wondering if I should shell out the extra 50 bucks + tax on the 80GB (if its BC) one since it comes with Motorstorm also.

The guy I can get it from amazon isnt charging tax but is charging 9 bucks for shipping so it sounds like a good deal to me.

Avellon · 11-26-2007, 06:50 PM

Yes, the 60 gb is fully backwards compatible and is better in bc than the 80 gb as the 80 gb does not have the ee from the ps2 in it while the 60gb has all the components from the ps2. So the 80 gb is backwards compatible but not as much as the 60 gb.

Vinen · 11-26-2007, 06:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Avellon

Yes, the 60 gb is fully backwards compatible and is better in bc than the 80 gb as the 80 gb does not have the ee from the ps2 in it while the 60gb has all the components from the ps2. So the 80 gb is backwards compatible but not as much as the 60 gb.

It's not fully but has an incredibly high compatibility rate. I can think of one game offhand which won't install. The Vana'diel Collection 08 for FFXI.

Kevincheese · 11-26-2007, 07:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Vinen

It's not fully but has an incredibly high compatibility rate. I can think of one game offhand which won't install. The Vana'diel Collection 08 for FFXI.

Seeing how there is no Vana'diel Collection 08?

Vinen · 11-26-2007, 07:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Kevincheese

Seeing how there is no Vana'diel Collection 08?

http://www.gamestop.com/product.asp?product_id=281831

-.- It's sitting in front of me right now :| I bought it for the Expansion CD Key along with the ability to install it onto my PS3... or so I thought! I mean the fact all other versions of FFXI install onto the PS3... yar.

joz123 · 11-26-2007, 08:08 PM

I dont plan on getting FFXI at all so am I better off paying the 100 more for 20gigs and motorstorm?

Aulirophile · 11-26-2007, 08:51 PM

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Originally Posted by joz123

I wanna get a ps3 and I found a 60GB one on amazon for 450. Is the 60GB one fully backwards compatable? Because I have PS2 games I would like to play on it also and was wondering if I should shell out the extra 50 bucks + tax on the 80GB (if its BC) one since it comes with Motorstorm also.

The guy I can get it from amazon isnt charging tax but is charging 9 bucks for shipping so it sounds like a good deal to me.

Why is he charging shipping? Amazon has free shipping for most everything over $25 (everything as far as I know).

joz123 · 11-26-2007, 10:47 PM

Id rather pay a lil shipping then like 50 for tax heh

So should I just get the 80gig? Is Motorstorm any good?

Folanlron · 11-26-2007, 10:53 PM

Get the 60gig ~

You can put a bigger hard drive in it yourself if ya want,

Motorstorm really isn't that great

Aulirophile · 11-26-2007, 10:59 PM

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Originally Posted by joz123

Id rather pay a lil shipping then like 50 for tax heh

So should I just get the 80gig? Is Motorstorm any good?

Far as I know the 80 BC is hit or miss, Sony said that they'd try to address that in a firmware update later. The issue is they're going to be using software emulation, they took the actual ps2 chip out, so they have to write an emulator. I realize Sony has an inside track on this but people have been working on ps2 emulators for years with limited success, so I wouldn't hold your breath. Especially since, when it comes to a software emulator, a lot of games need special fixes and there is no way they'll get around to doing one for every game. I'm sure there is a compatible/not compatible list around. Should google it and see if the games you have are compatible, then decide.

The 60gb still have the actual ps2 chip inside and hence are BC, except apparently for Vinen's FFXI collection.

matmanx2 · 11-27-2007, 06:38 AM

The 80's are not entirely software emulation. As far as I know they have one of the 2 chips required for full hardware emulation. I believe they have the PS2 graphics chip but not the CPU which is whats being emulated. The 60gb of course has both chips and should be 100% bc. The 80gb is mostly compatible but you might want to bookmark PlayStation.com - Support - PLAYSTATION®3 Backward Compatibility Status and make sure the games you want to play dont show any issues. For what it's worth I have a 60gb an I love it.

Algol Devilstar · 11-27-2007, 07:31 AM

If by love it you mean it sits there while you play your other consoles, then ya I agree.

Darus Grey · 11-27-2007, 08:07 AM

I bought a PS3 80 for a friend as a gift and eventually HAD to return it and buy a used 60gig.

I have a PS2 lib of close to 1000 so when he started borrowing games often he ran into issues with the 80gig more then is acceptable. Its especially bad for many of the small niche RPGs I own, though even the 60gig had issues with them(wheres in the 60 the saves would randomly corrupt, in the 80 it just wouldn't let you save, refused to recognize virtual memory cards).

If PS2/PS1 play is a priority then the original models is the only solution.

Dennadyne · 11-27-2007, 08:11 AM

By fully compatible these people mean NOT fully compatible.

Over time, they will become less compatible with new PS2 releases (why you would buy a new PS2 game when you own PS3 I don't know).

Anywho.. buy the 80 GB version and trade in the crap game that is motorstorm and use the $10 trade-in credit towards Madden '08

Soygen · 11-27-2007, 08:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Darus Grey

I have a PS2 lib of close to 1000

Good god...

11-26-2007, 06:23 PM	#1 (permalink)
joz123 Stop, drop and ROFL Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 806	Buying a PS3 I wanna get a ps3 and I found a 60GB one on amazon for 450. Is the 60GB one fully backwards compatable? Because I have PS2 games I would like to play on it also and was wondering if I should shell out the extra 50 bucks + tax on the 80GB (if its BC) one since it comes with Motorstorm also. The guy I can get it from amazon isnt charging tax but is charging 9 bucks for shipping so it sounds like a good deal to me.

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11-26-2007, 06:50 PM	#2 (permalink)
Avellon Registered User Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 431 +0 Internets	Yes, the 60 gb is fully backwards compatible and is better in bc than the 80 gb as the 80 gb does not have the ee from the ps2 in it while the 60gb has all the components from the ps2. So the 80 gb is backwards compatible but not as much as the 60 gb.

11-26-2007, 08:08 PM	#6 (permalink)
joz123 Stop, drop and ROFL Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 806	I dont plan on getting FFXI at all so am I better off paying the 100 more for 20gigs and motorstorm?

11-26-2007, 10:47 PM	#8 (permalink)
joz123 Stop, drop and ROFL Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 806	Id rather pay a lil shipping then like 50 for tax heh So should I just get the 80gig? Is Motorstorm any good?

11-26-2007, 10:53 PM	#9 (permalink)
Folanlron Teh Hitman Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Lower, Hell Posts: 106 +0 Internets	Get the 60gig ~ You can put a bigger hard drive in it yourself if ya want, Motorstorm really isn't that great

11-27-2007, 06:38 AM	#11 (permalink)
matmanx2 PS360 owner Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 397	The 80's are not entirely software emulation. As far as I know they have one of the 2 chips required for full hardware emulation. I believe they have the PS2 graphics chip but not the CPU which is whats being emulated. The 60gb of course has both chips and should be 100% bc. The 80gb is mostly compatible but you might want to bookmark PlayStation.com - Support - PLAYSTATION®3 Backward Compatibility Status and make sure the games you want to play dont show any issues. For what it's worth I have a 60gb an I love it.

11-27-2007, 07:31 AM	#12 (permalink)
Algol Devilstar Banned Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: The NW Posts: 3,497 +0 Internets	If by love it you mean it sits there while you play your other consoles, then ya I agree.

11-27-2007, 08:07 AM	#13 (permalink)
Darus Grey I can dance if I want to Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 1,269	I bought a PS3 80 for a friend as a gift and eventually HAD to return it and buy a used 60gig. I have a PS2 lib of close to 1000 so when he started borrowing games often he ran into issues with the 80gig more then is acceptable. Its especially bad for many of the small niche RPGs I own, though even the 60gig had issues with them(wheres in the 60 the saves would randomly corrupt, in the 80 it just wouldn't let you save, refused to recognize virtual memory cards). If PS2/PS1 play is a priority then the original models is the only solution.

11-27-2007, 08:11 AM	#14 (permalink)
Dennadyne Registered User Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Orlando, FL Posts: 396 -1 Internets	By fully compatible these people mean NOT fully compatible. Over time, they will become less compatible with new PS2 releases (why you would buy a new PS2 game when you own PS3 I don't know). Anywho.. buy the 80 GB version and trade in the crap game that is motorstorm and use the $10 trade-in credit towards Madden '08