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Blank · 01-07-2008, 09:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Kevincheese

I've encountered 10-15 shotguns to pick up, be a bit more specific plz

guessing he means the very first time. Meh, guess I'll spoiler it.

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Zanna'Dar · 01-08-2008, 02:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Blank

guessing he means the very first time. Meh, guess I'll spoiler it.

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Spot on. Meant the first time you pick up the shotgun.

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Blank · 01-08-2008, 05:50 AM

for that part, you actually only need 6 of each if you hack the invention machine :P

But anyway, the freeze tonic isn't that great. If you have room for the freeze plasmid on your wheel thingy, it can be handy for hacking safes and whatnot (it slows the flow of liquid if you freeze it first).

For me, I pretty much used Decoy exclusively then just relied on "l33t FPS skillz" to kill shit that wouldn't attack me. It's such an underrated skill since it works on *everything* and it costs next to nothing.

And for what it's worth, you were probably better off skipping bolt 2 and going right to bolt 3 when it becomes available (ditto that with inferno, sonic boom, etc). It's like only a level or 2 more of a wait and it saves a tad bit of ADAM.... not a huge deal either way though. I did that my first playthrough too.

I don't recall what tonics were awesome except for the one that gives health/eve when you hack stuff, and the one that gives eve when you use First Aid. There's a huge amount of awesome combat tonics though.

Eomer · 01-08-2008, 01:59 PM

I used all the wrench tonics, and for the most part used my wrench on splicers. For the hell of it, I even used the wrench to kill a big daddy, but that took way too many first aid kits.

For the most part though, I barely even used plasmids in the game. Mainly I just stuck with the wrench and machine gun. I only played on medium difficulty, though, and looking back I probably should have played on hard so I'd be forced into actually using plasmids and strategy instead of just straight shooter styles.

Lorrac · 01-08-2008, 04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Eomer

I used all the wrench tonics, and for the most part used my wrench on splicers. For the hell of it, I even used the wrench to kill a big daddy, but that took way too many first aid kits.

For the most part though, I barely even used plasmids in the game. Mainly I just stuck with the wrench and machine gun. I only played on medium difficulty, though, and looking back I probably should have played on hard so I'd be forced into actually using plasmids and strategy instead of just straight shooter styles.

That's my one and only grip with the game. For all it's awesome tonics/plasmids and emergent gameplay (buzzwords lol) you'll be fine playing it like if it were doom.

Eomer · 01-08-2008, 05:18 PM

Totally agreed. I haven't played it on hard difficulty, so maybe that gripe is somewhat unfair. But at medium, I found that there really wasn't any great need or advantage to figuring out really unique and different ways of taking down big daddies or splicers. For the most part with big daddies, some adequate cover, electroshock and enough grenades or armor piercing ammo was more than enough to take them out extremely easily.

That said I still think it's a fantastic game. The presentation, story, and production values were fantastic. But the gameplay itself was somewhat more shallow than what I'd expected. And I didn't even follow the hype of the game.

Blank · 01-08-2008, 05:24 PM

I've beaten it on hard and at best, plasmids just make taking down targets easier than straight up weapon fighting. You can still do fine with just run and gunning it though... but security bullseye and decoy sure make those first few big daddy/rosie encounters much easier.

[LVC]DeGrassi · 01-08-2008, 05:33 PM

Most big daddies roamed by a security camera, I just through that security target plasmid and let the fucking flying robots kill them, run around, come back when the big daddy spawned again, and do it again, 1000$ + each lvl on hard, never went anywhere without 9/9 eve and health packs and full ammo heh.

[LVC]DeGrassi · 01-08-2008, 05:35 PM

Altho, about to finish it tonight, and I totally forgot to take pics of turrets, was thinking about runnign back through all the lvls but dont think I left many up as enemies .. any way I can max out the reasearch on these without playing through the game again to get the all fields achievement ?

Blank · 01-08-2008, 05:39 PM

nope, ur boned

There's turrets right up until the final boss though. And research doesn't "carry over" in any way, so you have to research everything all over again. Sucks.

Lorrac · 01-09-2008, 11:48 AM

Just finished it =) got the "good ending" too.

Aw man what an awesome game it is. Rapture and its inhabitants are probably the best virtual set ever made. The cohesion between the story, the setting, the characters... truly an A+ game. What am I gonna say? I was bioshocked.

The thing I liked the most? tracking a big daddy by the sound/vibrations. Gosh, the wail... you enter an area, hear it in the distance...

edit: oh yeah, obligatory tactic recap - I just enjoyed electric/fire plasmids the most, it's a nice combo since they stay shocked while the fire burns them. Around big daddies, I found the enraging plasmid rather hilarious.

BCP · 01-09-2008, 12:55 PM

Killing Big Daddies via elaborate traps was the funnest thing ever. 2x electric bolts, 4x proximity mines, 1x crossbow bolt = insta death. So much fun.

Zanna'Dar · 01-16-2008, 02:57 AM

So I'm following from a bit behind. I just beat the game...Why did Andrew Ryan get himself killed? He could have easily killed Jack (Would you kindly get stepped on by a Bigdaddy? or whatever).

Another point is that there is a rumor that there are 3 endings: First one if you harvest all the LS's. 2nd one is if you rescue them all. Third one is if you harvest some and rescue some? (Didn't see the third one)

Gryeyes · 01-16-2008, 05:54 AM

Dont think so? I harvested some and saved some and got the bad ending.

Thhin · 01-16-2008, 06:11 AM

No, if you have a .bik player you can watch all the endings.

There are only 2 (though there are widescreen versions)

01-08-2008, 05:50 AM	#408 (permalink)
Blank Registered User Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 3,133 +19 Internets	for that part, you actually only need 6 of each if you hack the invention machine :P But anyway, the freeze tonic isn't that great. If you have room for the freeze plasmid on your wheel thingy, it can be handy for hacking safes and whatnot (it slows the flow of liquid if you freeze it first). For me, I pretty much used Decoy exclusively then just relied on "l33t FPS skillz" to kill shit that wouldn't attack me. It's such an underrated skill since it works on everything and it costs next to nothing. And for what it's worth, you were probably better off skipping bolt 2 and going right to bolt 3 when it becomes available (ditto that with inferno, sonic boom, etc). It's like only a level or 2 more of a wait and it saves a tad bit of ADAM.... not a huge deal either way though. I did that my first playthrough too. I don't recall what tonics were awesome except for the one that gives health/eve when you hack stuff, and the one that gives eve when you use First Aid. There's a huge amount of awesome combat tonics though. __________________

01-08-2008, 05:24 PM	#412 (permalink)
Blank Registered User Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 3,133 +19 Internets	I've beaten it on hard and at best, plasmids just make taking down targets easier than straight up weapon fighting. You can still do fine with just run and gunning it though... but security bullseye and decoy sure make those first few big daddy/rosie encounters much easier. __________________

01-08-2008, 05:39 PM	#415 (permalink)
Blank Registered User Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 3,133 +19 Internets	nope, ur boned There's turrets right up until the final boss though. And research doesn't "carry over" in any way, so you have to research everything all over again. Sucks. __________________

01-09-2008, 11:48 AM	#416 (permalink)
Lorrac Invaders Spaced Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: the land of 16% VAT Posts: 1,394 -4 Internets	Just finished it =) got the "good ending" too. Aw man what an awesome game it is. Rapture and its inhabitants are probably the best virtual set ever made. The cohesion between the story, the setting, the characters... truly an A+ game. What am I gonna say? I was bioshocked. The thing I liked the most? tracking a big daddy by the sound/vibrations. Gosh, the wail... you enter an area, hear it in the distance... edit: oh yeah, obligatory tactic recap - I just enjoyed electric/fire plasmids the most, it's a nice combo since they stay shocked while the fire burns them. Around big daddies, I found the enraging plasmid rather hilarious. Last edited by Lorrac; 01-09-2008 at 12:27 PM..

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01-08-2008, 01:59 PM	#409 (permalink)
Eomer You mean I can change this? Neat! Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 12,975 +66 Internets	I used all the wrench tonics, and for the most part used my wrench on splicers. For the hell of it, I even used the wrench to kill a big daddy, but that took way too many first aid kits. For the most part though, I barely even used plasmids in the game. Mainly I just stuck with the wrench and machine gun. I only played on medium difficulty, though, and looking back I probably should have played on hard so I'd be forced into actually using plasmids and strategy instead of just straight shooter styles.

01-08-2008, 05:18 PM	#411 (permalink)
Eomer You mean I can change this? Neat! Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 12,975 +66 Internets	Totally agreed. I haven't played it on hard difficulty, so maybe that gripe is somewhat unfair. But at medium, I found that there really wasn't any great need or advantage to figuring out really unique and different ways of taking down big daddies or splicers. For the most part with big daddies, some adequate cover, electroshock and enough grenades or armor piercing ammo was more than enough to take them out extremely easily. That said I still think it's a fantastic game. The presentation, story, and production values were fantastic. But the gameplay itself was somewhat more shallow than what I'd expected. And I didn't even follow the hype of the game.

01-08-2008, 05:33 PM	#413 (permalink)
[LVC]DeGrassi Smells like 1983 Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: La Verne, Ca Posts: 484 -44 Internets	Most big daddies roamed by a security camera, I just through that security target plasmid and let the fucking flying robots kill them, run around, come back when the big daddy spawned again, and do it again, 1000$ + each lvl on hard, never went anywhere without 9/9 eve and health packs and full ammo heh.

01-08-2008, 05:35 PM	#414 (permalink)
[LVC]DeGrassi Smells like 1983 Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: La Verne, Ca Posts: 484 -44 Internets	Altho, about to finish it tonight, and I totally forgot to take pics of turrets, was thinking about runnign back through all the lvls but dont think I left many up as enemies .. any way I can max out the reasearch on these without playing through the game again to get the all fields achievement ?

01-09-2008, 12:55 PM	#417 (permalink)
BCP Registered User Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 178	Killing Big Daddies via elaborate traps was the funnest thing ever. 2x electric bolts, 4x proximity mines, 1x crossbow bolt = insta death. So much fun.

01-16-2008, 02:57 AM	#418 (permalink)
Zanna'Dar Registered User Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 300 +1 Internets	So I'm following from a bit behind. I just beat the game...Why did Andrew Ryan get himself killed? He could have easily killed Jack (Would you kindly get stepped on by a Bigdaddy? or whatever). Another point is that there is a rumor that there are 3 endings: First one if you harvest all the LS's. 2nd one is if you rescue them all. Third one is if you harvest some and rescue some? (Didn't see the third one)

01-16-2008, 05:54 AM	#419 (permalink)
Gryeyes Registered User Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 871 -8 Internets	Dont think so? I harvested some and saved some and got the bad ending.

01-16-2008, 06:11 AM	#420 (permalink)
Thhin Banned Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Land of the Lotus Eaters Posts: 707 +0 Internets	No, if you have a .bik player you can watch all the endings. There are only 2 (though there are widescreen versions)