US April Hardware Sales, NPD - Page 16

Sean · 05-21-2007, 04:09 PM

Those are the concepts of the controls, yes - but they certainly were not ever that responsive. And when they did respond there was a significant delay compared to what there would be with a controller.

Shabado · 05-21-2007, 05:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Sithro

For me, Zelda would have been a lot better if I could dictate where Link swings. For instance, if I swing left, he swings left. If I swing right, he swings right, etc. You know, real control over the character's movements?

Anyway, just wanted to say that they released the Crystal Chronicals DS trailer. It looks great.

ffccnews

Click the thing that says "Square-Enix Party 2007."

Sigh. I really need to get a DS. Being poor has never sucked more than right now.

Dumar · 05-22-2007, 03:33 AM

anyone see this? in the first 6 month sales period, wii is the highest selling console ever in USA.

Infendo | Nintendo news, podcast, Wii, DS, and GBA blog » Blog Archive » Wii outsells the mighty PS2 for the same period

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the Wii has sold better than the mighty PS2 after the first six months. Amazingly, both the PS3 and 360 sold worse than the GameCube for the same period (!). Cumulative first six month totals in units sold are as follows:

1. Wii (2,470,000)
2. PS2 (2,200,000)
3. Xbox (1,900,000)
4. GameCube (1,540,000)
5. Xbox 360 (1,384,000)
6. PS3 (1,271,000)

RiskyChris · 05-22-2007, 04:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Dumar

anyone see this? in the first 6 month sales period, wii is the highest selling console ever in USA.

Infendo | Nintendo news, podcast, Wii, DS, and GBA blog » Blog Archive » Wii outsells the mighty PS2 for the same period

Yep, =) Pretty amazing, huh? There's a reason I'm so confident the Wii library will normalize in the coming year as developers jump on board.

Blumpster · 05-22-2007, 05:15 AM

I think it says a little something about the industry when 2 out of the 3 "next gen" consoles failed to match or succeed their predecessors six month sales figure. People reluctant to upgrade, why? Also, the console market, as a whole, is continually growing. What the fuck is going on?

World of Warcraft has a hand in it, no doubt.

Sharmai · 05-22-2007, 05:21 AM

From left to right Price at Launch
Wii $250 PS2 $299 Xbox $299 GCN $199 XBOX360 $399/$299 PS3 $599

With the exception of the abnormality that is the gamecube the lineraity of price to console sales is pretty consistent.

Kind of puts it into perspective doesnt it?

Blumpster · 05-22-2007, 05:43 AM

Eh, sort of. By the time Xbox and Gamecube came out PS2 was already an unstoppable beast, so they had a huge disadvantage. Kinda of like 360 now, only MS has so much negativity surrounding it, especially with a lot of gamers, it won't dominate as much as PS2 did since Sony already had a huge following from PS1. I think by the end of the year 360 will still be the highest seller by a few million. If Nintendo can meet demand and demand keeps up, well, I could be wrong.

Szlia · 05-22-2007, 05:50 AM

The most surprising thing in this chart is how poor the X360 did compared to the Xbox. They had shortage issues during the first months though no?

EDIT: Checking VG Chartz it seems it's because X360 completely failed its first christmas, but since then it is selling faster during the year and is now slightly ahead of the Xbox numbers after the same time (nb: that's considering only US numbers - Edit2: in Japan the X360 is still under Xbox number for the same timeframe).

Lenardo · 05-22-2007, 06:20 AM

to ME that graph says.. price is a definate factor- except for the gamecube- the ps2 was a beast then-in which console will sell the best.

RiskyChris · 05-22-2007, 10:42 AM

It's not such a failure to have slower starts than your predecessors, considering PS3's price and 360's price + shortages. It would just mean a slower start to the generation, except Wii is kinda sprinting out of the gate so it's a moot point how slow the other two are going. =)

Zerai · 05-22-2007, 11:07 AM

I think Launch titles help as well. Xbox had a really strong launch title: Halo. 360..not so much.

Wii Sports is an extremely powerful launch title. Which is funny given that you compare it to something like Halo, development costs and such, and it's a completely different ballpark.

Nintendo knows how to make awesome shit. I just doubt it'll be the powerhouse the PS2 was, at least in the same sort of way.

I still see Nintendo was the true console people. Because how I see consoles is something you sit down and play with a couple friends. And nintendo has always been the best at that. I'd rather play SSB, mario party and their ilk with friends than anything I've ever seen on any other game console. Xbox and PS are more...computers attached to your TV. Where you don't have to do any of the work to install or stuff like that, just plug in and play. Which is why the have 'mature' titles...aka computer games.

edit: also a difference is nintendo are more multiplayer, same room games vs single player or over the internet games...which is where xbox and ps dominate.

wild_whiskey · 05-22-2007, 11:17 AM

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I'd rather play SSB, mario party and their ilk with friends than anything I've ever seen on any other game console.

I used to think the exact same way until I sat down with friends and played Halo 2 online, over and over and over again (and I still suck eggs). Of course SSBM is up there with Tekken 5 as being the biggest time sink of any video game I've ever played, so Halo is still crap compared to their greatness.

Sharmai · 05-22-2007, 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by wild_whiskey

I used to think the exact same way until I sat down with friends and played Halo 2 online, over and over and over again (and I still suck eggs). Of course SSBM is up there with Tekken 5 as being the biggest time sink of any video game I've ever played, so Halo is still crap compared to their greatness.

Mario Kart, Goldeneye , oh how many a grade hath suffered at your very name...

Zerai · 05-22-2007, 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by wild_whiskey

I used to think the exact same way until I sat down with friends and played Halo 2 online, over and over and over again (and I still suck eggs). Of course SSBM is up there with Tekken 5 as being the biggest time sink of any video game I've ever played, so Halo is still crap compared to their greatness.

It still doesn't work. The online aspect removes the fun. When you kill some random guy over the internet..it's like who cares..if he kills you..again..who cares. But your friend beside you? Now you care. I can see system linking and getting a bunch of friends, a bunch of TVs and a bunch of xboxs and doing that...but I'd still rather just replace that bunch of xboxs with a nintendo product and be playing shit like mario kart.

Blank · 05-22-2007, 11:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Zerai

It still doesn't work. The online aspect removes the fun. When you kill some random guy over the internet..it's like who cares..if he kills you..again..who cares. But your friend beside you? Now you care. I can see system linking and getting a bunch of friends, a bunch of TVs and a bunch of xboxs and doing that...but I'd still rather just replace that bunch of xboxs with a nintendo product and be playing shit like mario kart.

Eh, it's just a different kind of fun. I prefer playing with human players over computers regardless. Some of my friends just suck at video games (in particular, FPS Games) so I can't just 4 split screen it and hit it up, because they still blow

Online can fill that gap with other dedicated gamers.

Casual gaming with friends is indeed awesome but I can't knock online gaming when you're more 'hardcore' into a given game than your real life friends are.

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Sean Rabid Console Fanatic Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Washington Posts: 6,755	Those are the concepts of the controls, yes - but they certainly were not ever that responsive. And when they did respond there was a significant delay compared to what there would be with a controller. __________________ SeanTSC

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Szlia Conquest Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Switzerland Posts: 6,229 +35 Internets	The most surprising thing in this chart is how poor the X360 did compared to the Xbox. They had shortage issues during the first months though no? EDIT: Checking VG Chartz it seems it's because X360 completely failed its first christmas, but since then it is selling faster during the year and is now slightly ahead of the Xbox numbers after the same time (nb: that's considering only US numbers - Edit2: in Japan the X360 is still under Xbox number for the same timeframe). __________________ -retrosabotage- Last edited by Szlia; 05-22-2007 at 06:05 AM..

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05-22-2007, 05:15 AM	#230 (permalink)
Blumpster . Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Washington Posts: 3,133 +26 Internets	I think it says a little something about the industry when 2 out of the 3 "next gen" consoles failed to match or succeed their predecessors six month sales figure. People reluctant to upgrade, why? Also, the console market, as a whole, is continually growing. What the fuck is going on? World of Warcraft has a hand in it, no doubt.

05-22-2007, 05:43 AM	#232 (permalink)
Blumpster . Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Washington Posts: 3,133 +26 Internets	Eh, sort of. By the time Xbox and Gamecube came out PS2 was already an unstoppable beast, so they had a huge disadvantage. Kinda of like 360 now, only MS has so much negativity surrounding it, especially with a lot of gamers, it won't dominate as much as PS2 did since Sony already had a huge following from PS1. I think by the end of the year 360 will still be the highest seller by a few million. If Nintendo can meet demand and demand keeps up, well, I could be wrong.

05-22-2007, 06:20 AM	#234 (permalink)
Lenardo Registered User Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 2,940 -33 Internets	to ME that graph says.. price is a definate factor- except for the gamecube- the ps2 was a beast then-in which console will sell the best.

05-22-2007, 10:42 AM	#235 (permalink)
RiskyChris Safety Dance Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: West Lafayette Posts: 5,708 -1 Internets	It's not such a failure to have slower starts than your predecessors, considering PS3's price and 360's price + shortages. It would just mean a slower start to the generation, except Wii is kinda sprinting out of the gate so it's a moot point how slow the other two are going. =)

05-22-2007, 11:07 AM	#236 (permalink)
Zerai ~ Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: An Igloo Posts: 4,360 +12 Internets	I think Launch titles help as well. Xbox had a really strong launch title: Halo. 360..not so much. Wii Sports is an extremely powerful launch title. Which is funny given that you compare it to something like Halo, development costs and such, and it's a completely different ballpark. Nintendo knows how to make awesome shit. I just doubt it'll be the powerhouse the PS2 was, at least in the same sort of way. I still see Nintendo was the true console people. Because how I see consoles is something you sit down and play with a couple friends. And nintendo has always been the best at that. I'd rather play SSB, mario party and their ilk with friends than anything I've ever seen on any other game console. Xbox and PS are more...computers attached to your TV. Where you don't have to do any of the work to install or stuff like that, just plug in and play. Which is why the have 'mature' titles...aka computer games. edit: also a difference is nintendo are more multiplayer, same room games vs single player or over the internet games...which is where xbox and ps dominate.