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Old 11-15-2006, 09:35 AM   #16 (permalink)
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I am going to have to agree. This is Sony's fault, not EB games.

I do NOT feel bad in the least for those that got cut from first pre-order.

The problems I have with EB is that they offer pre-orders for these items that they cannot guarentee will be available when they say it will. So you end up pissing off the customer when it gets pushed back or you get too few delivered. EB also needs to try to find some solution to this damn scalping of pre-orders sales on Ebay if they insist on continuing with it.

If electronics retailers took a firm stance with manufacturers in times like these and said "Hey, get your fucking shit together or we're done with you"... you "might" get their attention. Now we all know that scenario will never happen but, IMO, that is what needs to happen.

Sony sucks major ass for hyping a system that they cannot/did not produce enough of. I blame Sony for not trying to take more action and working with Ebay in stopping this blatant inflation. If Sony had produced the number of systems they SHOULD have for the launch, you would not have as much of a problem with Ebay and other auction sites. If Ebay would stop/ban auctions like these, it would also be a deterrant.

But hey, here's to wishful thinking and the end of my rant.
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Old 11-15-2006, 09:46 AM   #17 (permalink)
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Not that any EB/Gamestop's gave them out, but Corporate gave us these little cards to give to pre-order customers basically explaining that pre-ordering the system does garauntee them a spot on the list, but doesn't garauntee them a system on launch day. It says something about how we were given a shipment number, but cannot control how many units a company actually ships out.
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Old 11-15-2006, 11:22 AM   #18 (permalink)
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I don't think they should take pre-orders if they can't meet demand. What they should do is allow line-ups the night before only (to reduce liability due to people camping out for 3 weeks etc.), hand out a limited number of lottery tickets (hence having to be in line), and then allow the drawing winners to purchase the available number of consoles.

Also in a limited supply deal like this launch, priority should be given to actual gamers i.e. people who are actual past customers of that store. That would help reduce the number of ebayers, and would encourage people to support their neighborhood store.
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Old 11-15-2006, 11:26 AM   #19 (permalink)
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The lottery system is bullshit and not the American way. First come, first serve motherfucker.

On the other hand, those greedy capitalistic scum bags who buy systems just to sell them should be publically flogged.
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Old 11-15-2006, 11:34 AM   #20 (permalink)
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I'd say that they should give some form of test to make sure they actually understand English as a crude form of weeding out a few, but I know a few people that would not get one, and they are American =(

But on that note, hell, the guys in Japan were shouting instructions over a megaphone and most in line didn't understand a damn word... hai2u hint hint that there is a problem?
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Old 11-15-2006, 12:22 PM   #21 (permalink)
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i see no good reason to buy a ps3 this early. maybe in a year or so.
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Old 11-15-2006, 01:01 PM   #22 (permalink)
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http://ps3.ign.com/articles/745/745439p1.html

they just listed a few:

# Tekken 5: A number of modes don't play background music properly.

# Xenosaga Episode II: The opening movie sometimes stops and sometimes doesn't properly play background music.

# Code Age Commanders: Problems (including data loss) with save game data.

# Radiata Stories: Background music during movie scenes may not play back properly.

# Star Ocean Till the End of Time (includes Directors Cut): Movie scenes may not have proper sound playback.

# Driving Emotion Type-S: BGM may not properly play back during races

# Gran Turismo 4: The screen may freeze following the title demo.

# Hot Shots Golf 3/4: Some sort of problem with the controls becoming unresponsive

# Operator's Side: The game freezes at the logo screen when started up with the Seamic controller

# Onimusha Dawn of Dreams: Screen will occasionally appear 2cm to the right

# Hyper Street Fighter II Anniversary Edition: The screen will not appear correctly in some instances. The S.F.II Movie cannot play properly.

# Megaman X7: There are times when the background music won't play properly

# Devil May Cry: The screen will sometimes freeze during the title demo

# Onimusha: During movie playback, the sound will occasionally stop

# Suikoden III: Cannot read PS1 data during the game.

# Silent Hill 2: When going from the title screen to the demo screen, the screen may freeze

are the "major" ones
I don't understand how there isn't a rather large outcry about this, at least Microsoft mentioned not all games would be backwards compatible initially, Sony seems to have kept it hidden from buyers.
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Old 11-15-2006, 01:23 PM   #23 (permalink)
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About 1-2% of the list of 16,000 PS1/PS2 games are not working 100% properly. That's pretty fucking good and lucky.

Also, that's taken from Sony's page.
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Old 11-15-2006, 01:52 PM   #24 (permalink)
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About 1-2% of the list of 16,000 PS1/PS2 games are not working 100% properly. That's pretty fucking good and lucky.

Also, that's taken from Sony's page.
Taken from their site after the release of the system and after repeatedly claiming complete compatibility.
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Old 11-15-2006, 02:07 PM   #25 (permalink)
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Still, it's hardly an issue. Around 200 games out of 16,000 have problems. And they're being fixed with firmware updates already - so the list is shrinking.

Yes, Sony is evil and mean.
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Old 11-15-2006, 02:08 PM   #26 (permalink)
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Eb and Gamestop specifically asked Sony and Nintendo for hard numbers of systems that they would receive at launch. They also explained to both companies that they didnt want the XBox 360 fiasco again. Sony and Nintendo both told EB/Gamestop that they would without a doubt be able to deliver "X" systems. Guess what? Sony fucked up, and Nintendo stayed true to their word.
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Still, it's hardly an issue. Around 200 games out of 16,000 have problems. And they're being fixed with firmware updates already - so the list is shrinking.

Yes, Sony is evil and mean.
I'm surprised that people don't remember that PS2s were not 100% compatible with PS1 games either...and due to the nature of the PS2 this was never fixed, as you couldn't just patch the fix in.
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Old 11-15-2006, 07:35 PM   #28 (permalink)
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Not that any EB/Gamestop's gave them out, but Corporate gave us these little cards to give to pre-order customers basically explaining that pre-ordering the system does garauntee them a spot on the list, but doesn't garauntee them a system on launch day. It says something about how we were given a shipment number, but cannot control how many units a company actually ships out.
Yeah. It's still on my Wii pre-order slip despite me being guaranteed unless they don't get a single system. They even used the wording when speaking to line saying "we're suppose to get so and so at the most". Obviously they left it open for interpretationt hat they could get less systems. In a way, I do feel bad for the people. Most of the people who pre-ordered (atleast at the store I go to ) weren't hardcores but rather parents who camped the pre-order line a few hours before going into work. I don't blame them for not wanting to wait in line for two days to have to get one.

Now, the people I'm really laughing at is those that bought PS3 pre orders on ebay and now won't be getting their system. Safe to say they're up shits creek without a paddle. Serves them right for being lazy and spending $1500 on a fucking piece of paper.
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Most of the people who pre-ordered (atleast at the store I go to ) weren't hardcores but rather parents who camped the pre-order line a few hours before going into work. I don't blame them for not wanting to wait in line for two days to have to get one.
Haha yeah, I've had to explain multiple times to grandparents the idea behind a "hopeful call list" we made and how due to the "internet" we had a line of 30+ waiting the day of pre-orders and didn't get a chance to call them.

Oh, technology.
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Haha yeah, I've had to explain multiple times to grandparents the idea behind a "hopeful call list" we made and how due to the "internet" we had a line of 30+ waiting the day of pre-orders and didn't get a chance to call them.

Oh, technology.
If it becomes a standard (blu ray that is) I'll buy one later next year. I just can't shell out $600 for something that has gotten as much bad press hardware wise as it has. There are still some overheating issues at times, the whole backwards compatibility thing now, plus the framerate issues with a few games. i'll just sit back and wait a year or two and if it becomes big, I'll pick one up.
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