Diablo 3 - General Discussion I - Page 134

AlexTheDictator · 06-06-2009, 10:37 AM

I don't think MapHack was too bad. Maybe that's because I used it, but dupes were shitty and ruined a lot of the game for me. Once the duping explosion began, I quit.

Blumpster · 06-06-2009, 02:16 PM

The duping was kind of gay, but my experiences with D2 were among friends, 3-4 people playing together over BNet we rarely involved anyone else and could care less if the public at large was cheating as it didn't have any effect on us.

Tuco · 06-06-2009, 04:01 PM

duping and maphacks didn't bother me much. It sucked that everyone had ridiculously perfect rares, but meh.

The worst part was the hacked/bugged items that more or less guaranteed instant kills.

Azrayne · 06-07-2009, 04:08 AM

Never bothered playing with the public at large so I don't care, D2 isn't conducive to online socializing anyway, as long as I can have fun single player/LANing, I'm happy.

possible · 06-07-2009, 11:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Azrayne

Never bothered playing with the public at large so I don't care, D2 isn't conducive to online socializing anyway, as long as I can have fun single player/LANing, I'm happy.

So you never really played D2.

The Ancient · 06-07-2009, 11:40 AM

How did people dupe on the b.net servers? I remember duping was pretty easy on the local games and most people played those games thanks to b.net lag making the game more random, but it seems like if they make playing on the server a requirement for the game they should be able to keep a lot of that stuff out. It's not like people dupe in WoW.

Tuco · 06-07-2009, 02:30 PM

In Diablo1, you just had to pick up an item on the ground at the same time you picked up an item with a mouseclick on your inventory (lol).

In Diablo2 it wasn't this easy, and there were many different types of dupes that got widely released before squashed. The only one I remember had to do with talking to the merchants and holding items and alt-f4ing and then buying the items back or some shit. It was really convoluted but effective.

Blumpster · 06-07-2009, 02:36 PM

Duping is done the same way it's done in most online games, through lag and server/client sync issues.

Azrayne · 06-07-2009, 08:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by possible

So you never really played D2.

No, I played tons of D2, I just enjoyed playing by myself or with friends/family more than I did the random detritus of the online gaming community that populate BNet.

I don't think playing with people using hacks, typing with as many numbers as letters and rushing me through hell then PLing me to 80 in a day would have added much to my gaming experience over actually, you know, playing the game the way it was intended.

Arcarsenal · 06-07-2009, 09:58 PM

I had a friend that got into duping. One of the most ridiculous bugs was some how making an OPEN BNET character join CLOSED BNET game. If you played at all then I'm sure you know what this means. It had something to do with altering IP addresses and forcing the client to join a game.

That is how shit like

got on to closed realms.

I will ask him about it and post back more details. I remember he had 2 accounts full of SoJs, it was sick.

edit: There were multiple ways to dupe, when one was fixed another would be found. They were kept very quiet, you could make an okay living selling items on ebay.

Tuco · 06-07-2009, 10:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Azrayne

playing the game the way it was intended.

I'm pretty sure the game was intended to be played on bnet there, chief.

Pyros · 06-07-2009, 11:22 PM

I don't see how playing the game with random people on internet is more intended than playing it with a set group of friends over a LAN tbh. D2 had no raiding or anything of the sort, you were always limited in the amount of people in the same game so being on Bnet or not made absolutely no difference.

If I never PUG a dungeon in wow and only play with guildmates, I'm still playing wow, PUGing shit with total retards isn't the way it's intended, it's just a possibility if you don't have friends/a guild. Same with Bnet, it was just a chatroom where you could pick up idiots to join you in games, but ultimately the game was only intended to be played with other people, not specifically other people you didn't know from Bnet.

Azrayne · 06-08-2009, 12:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tuco

I'm pretty sure the game was intended to be played on bnet there, chief.

Pretty sure the game wasn't intended to be played by being rushed by a higher character till you can farm the same zone repeatedly for XP and drops and hitting level 80 in a day.

Rica86 · 06-08-2009, 12:47 AM

Lot of defensive people here. I would say I wouldn't of enjoyed D2 as much had I played it in a Lan/with set group of friends only. I did farm alot by myself, but I still have screenshots on my old PC of stupid drama and stuff from the clan I had been in. Fuck if i even remember over what, since i can't really imagine what there was to get all pissed over in the game. But i met plenty of decent people on B.net, that i screwed around with and had fun with but ya... there were a ton of retarded people as well. I liked the bigger pool of people to trade with as well, If i wanted to test out a new character... I could farm for a while with an old one and get some stuff to trade to deck out a new one fairly decently and just have a ball.

Azrayne · 06-08-2009, 12:52 AM

Well yeah, but I'm sure you can understand that plenty of people probably couldn't be fucked with that kind of environment. D2 isn't an MMO, and to say you're playing it the 'wrong way' because you chose to ignore the online option and only played with a group of friends is a little absurd.

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06-07-2009, 09:58 PM	#2005 (permalink)
Arcarsenal Registered User Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 175 -11 Internets	I had a friend that got into duping. One of the most ridiculous bugs was some how making an OPEN BNET character join CLOSED BNET game. If you played at all then I'm sure you know what this means. It had something to do with altering IP addresses and forcing the client to join a game. That is how shit like got on to closed realms. I will ask him about it and post back more details. I remember he had 2 accounts full of SoJs, it was sick. edit: There were multiple ways to dupe, when one was fixed another would be found. They were kept very quiet, you could make an okay living selling items on ebay. Last edited by Arcarsenal; 06-07-2009 at 10:12 PM..

06-08-2009, 12:47 AM	#2009 (permalink)
Rica86 Looking to buy a wood chipper Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Bumblefuck, CT Posts: 412 -8 Internets	Lot of defensive people here. I would say I wouldn't of enjoyed D2 as much had I played it in a Lan/with set group of friends only. I did farm alot by myself, but I still have screenshots on my old PC of stupid drama and stuff from the clan I had been in. Fuck if i even remember over what, since i can't really imagine what there was to get all pissed over in the game. But i met plenty of decent people on B.net, that i screwed around with and had fun with but ya... there were a ton of retarded people as well. I liked the bigger pool of people to trade with as well, If i wanted to test out a new character... I could farm for a while with an old one and get some stuff to trade to deck out a new one fairly decently and just have a ball. __________________

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06-06-2009, 10:37 AM	#1996 (permalink)
AlexTheDictator Registered User Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Cincinnati, OH Posts: 333 -1 Internets	I don't think MapHack was too bad. Maybe that's because I used it, but dupes were shitty and ruined a lot of the game for me. Once the duping explosion began, I quit.

06-06-2009, 02:16 PM	#1997 (permalink)
Blumpster . Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Washington Posts: 2,307 +13 Internets	The duping was kind of gay, but my experiences with D2 were among friends, 3-4 people playing together over BNet we rarely involved anyone else and could care less if the public at large was cheating as it didn't have any effect on us.

06-06-2009, 04:01 PM	#1998 (permalink)
Tuco Forum Janitor Join Date: May 2002 Location: Detroit Posts: 10,723 +75 Internets	duping and maphacks didn't bother me much. It sucked that everyone had ridiculously perfect rares, but meh. The worst part was the hacked/bugged items that more or less guaranteed instant kills.

06-07-2009, 04:08 AM	#1999 (permalink)
Azrayne Registered User Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Awsome Posts: 2,727	Never bothered playing with the public at large so I don't care, D2 isn't conducive to online socializing anyway, as long as I can have fun single player/LANing, I'm happy.

06-07-2009, 02:30 PM	#2002 (permalink)
Tuco Forum Janitor Join Date: May 2002 Location: Detroit Posts: 10,723 +75 Internets	In Diablo1, you just had to pick up an item on the ground at the same time you picked up an item with a mouseclick on your inventory (lol). In Diablo2 it wasn't this easy, and there were many different types of dupes that got widely released before squashed. The only one I remember had to do with talking to the merchants and holding items and alt-f4ing and then buying the items back or some shit. It was really convoluted but effective.

06-07-2009, 02:36 PM	#2003 (permalink)
Blumpster . Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Washington Posts: 2,307 +13 Internets	Duping is done the same way it's done in most online games, through lag and server/client sync issues.

06-07-2009, 11:22 PM	#2007 (permalink)
Pyros Registered User Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 3,221 +39 Internets	I don't see how playing the game with random people on internet is more intended than playing it with a set group of friends over a LAN tbh. D2 had no raiding or anything of the sort, you were always limited in the amount of people in the same game so being on Bnet or not made absolutely no difference. If I never PUG a dungeon in wow and only play with guildmates, I'm still playing wow, PUGing shit with total retards isn't the way it's intended, it's just a possibility if you don't have friends/a guild. Same with Bnet, it was just a chatroom where you could pick up idiots to join you in games, but ultimately the game was only intended to be played with other people, not specifically other people you didn't know from Bnet.

06-08-2009, 12:52 AM	#2010 (permalink)
Azrayne Registered User Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Awsome Posts: 2,727	Well yeah, but I'm sure you can understand that plenty of people probably couldn't be fucked with that kind of environment. D2 isn't an MMO, and to say you're playing it the 'wrong way' because you chose to ignore the online option and only played with a group of friends is a little absurd.