Nintendo's new revolutionary controller

[Quincey_Cueva]

Exactly. We are a nation of people who want everything, it doesn't matter about what we get just as long as we get all of it. I am sick and tired of hearing people complain and act like Nintendo is demanding that they buy these things, as if it isn't a choice. Their mad at nintendo for providing them a wide selection and because they can't afford everything they blame Nintendo. Half these people are probably living off there parents anyway.

[findar]

Originally Posted by DJ3

Right now, it sounds like you did buy these extravagant peripherals, meaning money was not the problem in the first place.

actually i didn't buy shit.

i abused best buy's amazing return policy and after a week(duration it took to beat the game) returned the GBA's/adapters/game to blockbuster.

but if i had actually spent real money on them i would have been furious. of course someone would be mad for spending $45 on cables used in only 2 games, wouldn't you? if i buy a steering wheel i can use it on most any racing game, if i buy a joy stick on any flight sim... but when you create specialized peripherals for specific games if you don't subsidize the cost of the game itself(donky konga surprisingly did this, but you still spend $30 for a friend to play) you set a bad precident. thats my point. xbox almost did the same with that mech game that required a $150 lap sized joystick. did it make the experiance a lot better? shit yea. but what after the game? you have $150 chunk of silicon and plastic sitting in a corner.

your argument is that if someone wants it enough they will spend their money right?

Money sinks? Hmmmm......remember when Sony Computer Entertainment CEO Ken Kutaragi said "Our goal for PlayStation 3 is for consumers to think to themselves, 'I will work more hours to buy one'. We want people to feel that they want it, irrespective of anything else."

if the console maker isnt doing it then are the developers left to do this themselves?

and on my argument? i told you i dont like the extravagent features to be money sinks, that whatever the base system is cover ANY use of games/features. i don't agree that the xbox360 $300 system does that either, i didnt like the $35 dvd add on for the origional xbox. live is something i would have liked to see free but understanding the cost of running servers/bandwidth its a constant money sink. ps2 should have had the HD come with final fantasy XI. DDR works for me. i can still play it without a dance pad, but i miss out on the true experience. the same could be done with any of these games that currently require extra peripherals. how hard would it have been to add a mini-menu popup for chrystal chronicles? basic functions with the xbox controller for that mech game? if nintendo included all of these with that controller along with backwards playability of old nintendo games(like already stated) i would be shocked and amazed. what im saying right now though is that the revolution is looking more and more like the $300 "core" xbox360, barely something i would consider a gaming system.

[Quincey_Cueva]

Originally Posted by findar

actually i didn't buy shit.

i abused best buy's amazing return policy and after a week(duration it took to beat the game) returned the GBA's/adapters/game to blockbuster.

but if i had actually spent real money on them i would have been furious. of course someone would be mad for spending $45 on cables used in only 2 games, wouldn't you? if i buy a steering wheel i can use it on most any racing game, if i buy a joy stick on any flight sim... but when you create specialized peripherals for specific games if you don't subsidize the cost of the game itself(donky konga surprisingly did this, but you still spend $30 for a friend to play) you set a bad precident. thats my point. xbox almost did the same with that mech game that required a $150 lap sized joystick. did it make the experiance a lot better? shit yea. but what after the game? you have $150 chunk of silicon and plastic sitting in a corner.

your argument is that if someone wants it enough they will spend their money right?



if the console maker isnt doing it then are the developers left to do this themselves?

and on my argument? i told you i dont like the extravagent features to be money sinks, that whatever the base system is cover ANY use of games/features. i don't agree that the xbox360 $300 system does that either, i didnt like the $35 dvd add on for the origional xbox. live is something i would have liked to see free but understanding the cost of running servers/bandwidth its a constant money sink. ps2 should have had the HD come with final fantasy XI. DDR works for me. i can still play it without a dance pad, but i miss out on the true experience. the same could be done with any of these games that currently require extra peripherals. how hard would it have been to add a mini-menu popup for chrystal chronicles? basic functions with the xbox controller for that mech game? if nintendo included all of these with that controller along with backwards playability of old nintendo games(like already stated) i would be shocked and amazed. what im saying right now though is that the revolution is looking more and more like the $300 "core" xbox360, barely something i would consider a gaming system.

Right....because you know all the specific specs and what is included with the final product? You abuse a return policy and say you have the right to complain. I still play crystal chronicles with my friends to this day. I guess I got my money's worth but maybe that's because I am not an incredibly reactionary short sighted idot. And for the record their were about 12 games that utilized the gba-gc cable connection.

Konga has had 2 sequels with one more in the works and Jungle Beat has one sequel in the works. Nintendo isn't going to include all those attatchments in box because that wouldn't make any business sense. What they will probably do is sell the attatchments and include with it the respective system library or a ticket to get 50 games.

[Cor]

Why don't you quit arguing until details of the pricing gets announced?

Judging by what the 360 is going to cost, and what analysts are estimating the ps3 is going to cost, neither of the next generation consoles is going to be cheap.

Maybe Nintendo will do the same as what they did with the GameCube, and release a cheaper console than the competition? Or maybe it'll be horribly overpriced. We don't know.

This speculation about pricing when only minimal information is available is pretty stupid.

[Szlia]

Originally Posted by Kasonic

Grats Nintendo on losing 99% of their third party support.

The same could have been speculated with the DS. Yet, even if Nintendo is by far the biggest software pusher on the system, 3rd party are there with some solid games.

Many game developpers are probably happy to be able to design games for a completely new interfaces. New challenges, new ideas, new games. Beans counters will run away, but creators will be there.

I don't know about you, but if FIFA 2008 (now with photorealistic hair implentation and true to life sweat zones!) is not on Revolution, I will not cry.

[Runnen]

Originally Posted by Szlia

The same could have been speculated with the DS. Yet, even if Nintendo is by far the biggest software pusher on the system, 3rd party are there with some solid games.

Many game developpers are probably happy to be able to design games for a completely new interfaces. New challenges, new ideas, new games. Beans counters will run away, but creators will be there.

I don't know about you, but if FIFA 2008 (now with photorealistic hair implentation and true to life sweat zones!) is not on Revolution, I will not cry.

Agreed 100%. I couldn't care less about the companies that focus on releasing as much half-assed content as possible in the shortest timespan.

I own and enjoy games made by brilliant companies with a vision of what gaming should be and feel like, games such as the Oddworld games (on PlayStation), ICO, Beyond Good and Evil, Max Payne, etc etc..

I guess it's a natural evolution though, as more and more small, sometimes creative companies get bought out by the superpowers such as Electronic Arts or Microsoft..

Good thing Ubisoft is still resisting the Dark Side!

[KiL4H]

The potencial of that controller is huge, especially for party games ... Nintendo has always focused on party games and young people... i think this new controller is exactly what they need to keep their market share.

[DisgruntledOrangatang]

Honestly who cares if it is made for younger people if it is FUN? I am sure some of you shitholes are afraid you'll look too dorky or newb or some shit playing 'kiddish' games. Ok....

I am not saying I wouldn't prefer a more mature themed game, but if it isn't and is fun...who give a flying fuck? Nintendo sure as fuck knows about making games that are fun. Third party support may be a problem though besides a few exceptions this has always been a problem for them. Most of their third party games end up being trash.

[EnigmaticParadigm]

As long as I can play Castlevania, Metroid, Zelda, and Mario on that dildo then I will not complain.

Oh, and Mario Party games, and all the mario "sports" games rule.


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[DJ3]

I tried. You hit too retarded to argue with, though, findar. Sorry.

Maybe you can go buy that MIG on eBay and then get pissed when the government won't let you fly it; you're clearly big on not realizing the full use of what you're purchasing.

Impulse-style buying and ignorance is not justifiable means to rage against the company providing the products.





You might want to check into eBay's return policy, though.

[Ronne]

Off topic and two pages late, but it still must be posted. Nuklear Power is the best webcomic, followed by VG cats. I haven't read this stick-figure one you speak of, I shall have to look into it.

[Iannis]

Originally Posted by KiL4H

The potencial of that controller is huge, especially for party games ... Nintendo has always focused on party games and young people... i think this new controller is exactly what they need to keep their market share.

i would've beat on the donkey kong raggae game's drums if i owned whatever console it is that had the donkey kong game. gamecube i guess.

I imagine not many 20 somethings would be willing to look retarded and bang on a cheap tiny plastic bongos controller made for 5 year old japanese kids, but i would've been all over that game.

[Schar]

I agree with everyone against findar, and everything i wanted to add has been said. I guess i can add that you can play Donkey Konga with just the GC controller, so stop using that game in your arguments.

I have friends who use that "i dont want to look like a fucking idiot swinging shit around while i play video games" argument too. Fuck them. Fun is fun, and i think everyone will appreciate how much more immersive it will be, assuming the hardware works as well as i think it will.

[painbringer]

Now all we need to do is wait for the laughs..


A: The first jedi game comes out, utilizing the remote fully.

B: Some fat kid starts playing it outdoors, using the stick as a lightsaber.

C: Someone gets him on a video.

D: Laughing time.


Dont forget the star wars kid!
http://www.jedimaster.net/


PS: No, i'm NOT gonna go to war with a remote control.

[Luthair]

Originally Posted by Quincey_Cueva

Nintendo isn't going to include all those attatchments in box because that wouldn't make any business sense. What they will probably do is sell the attatchments and include with it the respective system library or a ticket to get 50 games.

Business sense says don't put your customers over a barrel or one day you'll be in that barrel on the way over a cliff. The cost of a lot of peripherals is price gouging plain and simple, 50$ for cheap cables my ass.

Oh, and the rest of you are wrong, The Parking Lot is Full was the best web comic.