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Old 09-05-2005, 06:07 AM   #31 (permalink)
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Try it and see. There are a few different outcomes from the way I understand it. I haven't tried them all, the one I got was interesting~

Also, you interested in selling your Jyhad cards Gerbil? Bunch of people I know wanna start playing again, but I lack the rescources to do it.
I need to make sure they are still in storage, but otherwise...yeah. Send me a PM.
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Old 09-05-2005, 01:00 PM   #32 (permalink)
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I bought almost every single V:TM book White Wolf ever published when I was about 16. I read each one cover to cover at least three times. I wonder if I am alone in this but: I bought and read them ONLY for the "lore". I never once actually played the game or even attempted to.
I did the exact same thing with Rifts. I played it a couple times with friends, never anything serious, but the lore really interested me. I ended up with over a dozen books, and I thoroughly enjoyed reading about the storyline.

It's seriously one of the best "worlds" out there that hasn't been developed into a video game, movie, series, or anything. And it's ripe for any of those, especially a MMOG.
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Old 09-05-2005, 01:43 PM   #33 (permalink)
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I did the exact same thing with Rifts. I played it a couple times with friends, never anything serious, but the lore really interested me. I ended up with over a dozen books, and I thoroughly enjoyed reading about the storyline.

It's seriously one of the best "worlds" out there that hasn't been developed into a video game, movie, series, or anything. And it's ripe for any of those, especially a MMOG.
Heh, I can see it now...

"OMG WTF NERF JUICERS"
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Old 09-05-2005, 03:33 PM   #34 (permalink)
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I bought this from the bargain bin a few days ago and I've been enjoying it a lot. Definitly worth more than the 6 bucks I paid.
Off topic, but where do all you people find these magic "bargain bins?" I've been thinking of picking this up.

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Old 09-05-2005, 05:00 PM   #35 (permalink)
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Walmart about once a month will have a big wire bin of eletronic stuff, but it's usually pretty barren by the time I see it. Your best bet for bargain prices is the various websites that offer limited time only deals. Friend of mine just got HL2 and Sims2 for 22$ including shipping from some website.

I paid 30$ for my copy of Bloodlines, down from the 60$ it started at Best buy, which is why I waited so damned long.
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Old 09-05-2005, 05:03 PM   #36 (permalink)
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I paid 30$ for my copy of Bloodlines, down from the 60$ it started at Best buy, which is why I waited so damned long.
Weird, Bloodlines was $30 at my local Wal-mart on the day they got it in (about a week after it was released).
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Old 09-05-2005, 08:20 PM   #37 (permalink)
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I'm at some hotel right now looking for a personal item. The shit has been pretty on edge since getting here, but now I just want to get the fucking item (where is it?) and advance. I was bored earlier and just ran around killing people and got a negative mas strike. I noticed I only get 5 of those now or something and am pretty pissed at myself, what did I do that triggered that?

I'm a malk, love my responses... "I hear the pope wears a funny hat"
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Old 09-05-2005, 08:37 PM   #38 (permalink)
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I'm at some hotel right now looking for a personal item. The shit has been pretty on edge since getting here, but now I just want to get the fucking item (where is it?) and advance. I was bored earlier and just ran around killing people and got a negative mas strike. I noticed I only get 5 of those now or something and am pretty pissed at myself, what did I do that triggered that?

I'm a malk, love my responses... "I hear the pope wears a funny hat"
It's hard to describe. The ghost of the girl SORT OF indicates to you what you should do, but not everything. And if you're easily spooked, don't play that area alone at night with your sound turned up.

There's a few walkthroughs on gamefaqs.com if you're so inclined.
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Old 09-05-2005, 08:52 PM   #39 (permalink)
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You lose Masquerade masks by using your powers in public, and otherwise making it apparent to the general populace that you are a vampire at large. In otherwords, don't suck people dry (always leave them with a bit of blood), don't kill people unless they shoot at you first, don't use your powers in public (except for obfuscate and auruspex which are ok) and never, ever, ever reveal to someone that you're a vampire through text dialogue unless they outright guess it. It should be noted that a bunch of the quests that you can do give you a positive Masquerade mask, so if you lose on or two it's not really a big deal. Just keep your humanity up and don't go nuts.

As for the mansion, the item you're looking for is a pendant... it's a pretty linear path as long as you remember to read all of the glowing pieces of paper in the house (make sure to check the washing machine for the key), and be wary of ANY random urn in your way. Also, the door in the kitchen is opened by the pots. Watch out for the elevator too. Once you get the necklace just gtfo and that's the end of that.
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Old 09-05-2005, 09:13 PM   #40 (permalink)
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I was bored earlier and just ran around killing people and got a negative mas strike. I noticed I only get 5 of those now or something and am pretty pissed at myself, what did I do that triggered that?
So I guess you didn't really read the manual or listen to Smilin' Jack (the intro newbie guy with the beard). The masquerade is the "law" that says that Vampires cannot openly reveal to humans what they truly are lest it lead to open war with humans, a war that most believe the vampires would lose. Most adhere to it and see the sense in it except for the Sabbat who openly try to spark the war. But you're not Sabbat so anything you do that reveals your nature in front of a human is a masquerade violation, get 5 and your game ends.

Eating a human in front of another human? Yep, that'll pretty much reveal that you are a vampire (and is most likely what you've been doing). Using overt disciplines such as Celerity, which makes you run like Neo, in front of humans is a pretty dead giveaway too (although if you are Malkavian, none of your disciplines give you away).

One thing I've noticed is that it is difficult to feed in Santa Monica, the newbie zone. First of all, there are very few normal people. Most are hookers and homeless which only give maybe 1 blood anyway and they never seem to wander into the alleys and most are easily within view of other people. Or if you're like me and are Ventrue, you can't really feed on hookers or homeless anyway because you'll most likely puke the blood back up. And Ventrue can't eat rats at all. Of course, you could always pay a hooker to follow you into a dark alley and feed, but even then it's bad blood which gives you almost nothing and it costs you $40 a pop. I'm not done with the game yet but I have gotten out of Santa Monica and I can tell you it probably isn't a bad idea to spend whatever money you have at the blood bank. You get more (and larger amounts of) money in the next section and feeding is much easier. Not trying to spoil the game ala gamefaqs or anything, just a bit of advice that may help.

Anyway, you are most likely feeding within eyesight of other people, so stop it!

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And yeah, what Whyme said. I don't think I'm even halfway through the game yet and I've already earned 4 Masquerade Redemtions, so ya know. 1 or 2 violations won't kill ya, you'll earn them back, but just don't be a dumbass and you'll be ok.

Also, on the left, above your blue health meter, is a symbol that states what type of environment you are in. If it is a mask, then you are under the law of the masquerade. If it is a fancy lettered "E" then you are in an Elysium and can't really do shit but talk to people. But...if it is a picture of a gun, you are in a combat zone and can do what you please. You can kill, feed, maim, destroy, rape, pillage, and plunder to your hearts content without fear of losing Masquerade or Humanity.
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Old 09-05-2005, 09:14 PM   #41 (permalink)
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Old 09-05-2005, 09:51 PM   #42 (permalink)
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FUCK the haunted hotel.

I had to turn my damn sound off.
I should have known better than to play that game so late at night. The whole place was pitch black except for the monitor. Silent except for the surround sound of the game. I've never EVER been scared by anything, be it a movie, game, or someone coming up and surprising me as I was when I played this portion of the game.

It was a combination of the sounds and turning around and seeing what looked like the little girl from the movie "The Ring" run down a small hallway. And sure enough, just like in the fucking movies, I ran after her. I kept running into shadows and seriously felt like I was chasing her irl.

I started to hear more and more screams and shit and had to stop and turn the lights on and finish the level like that. Seriously was so fucked up lol.

It's a great game so far, but it's pretty taxing on my computers hardware so I get some performance problems when there's a lot of action.

Favorite weapon so far has to be the prosthetic arm :P
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Old 09-05-2005, 10:43 PM   #43 (permalink)
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The game is a huuuuuge memory hog, my PC is about useless for 5 minutes after I close the game. And yes, that hotel was horrible, I kept trying to tell myself that I'm a fucking vampire, shit should be scared of me, not the other way around, but it didn't work.

In all seriousness, go Malkavian, it's hilarity to the max. The responses are pure gold, even the special dialogue like seduction/persuasion options. For example: If your womb was not a dead, barren thing, I would fill it full of our love children.
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Old 09-06-2005, 07:44 AM   #44 (permalink)
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Heh, I can see it now...

"OMG WTF NERF JUICERS"
That would add a really interesting dynamic to MMORPG's though: characters with permanent and unavoidable deaths. It'd be fine if juicers were way overpowered, so long as they up and died like they're supposed to after say, a month or two of /played time.
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