Class only PoP loot

Neric · 08-21-2003, 02:00 AM

Remember the VT item that everyone could use with the exception of erudites? KKK...k?

Now this is a similar thing. Everyone gets a new toy except BST, MNK and NEC! If you see the Staff of Transcendence as MNK/BST "only" loot then just NECs get left out.

To a certain extend I think class only stuff stinks because it will rott most of the time, but still why do NECs get shafted again?

It is of course difficult to come up with useful NEC effects for example since DMF is already covered by the VP robe...maybe that is the reason.

qxx · 08-21-2003, 02:04 AM

Must suck to be a Necromancer.

Sindaael · 08-21-2003, 02:29 AM

Probably it hasn't dropped yet? And as far as effects go I think you could put Embracing Darkness on it with same cast time as the regular spell.

Nakilos · 08-21-2003, 04:17 AM

http://lucy.fnord.net/item.html?id=15867 - Wand of Impenetrable Force

http://lucy.fnord.net/item.html?id=20508 - Symbol of Ancient Summoning

The first is the effect which was a shared effect on the original elemental robes. So technically you get 2 compared to other classes which only get 1, and yes those count as your class specific items. Items which are shared by multiple classes are better than only 1 class items, less likely to rot sooner.

Neric · 08-21-2003, 04:49 AM

Both the wand and the symbol are multi class items. Wizards and mages both get a class only items on top of it. BSTs are kinda in the twilight since they share stuff with monks it seems.

Edit: This is more like a matter of principle. If 12 out of 13 classes get unique items then it has bullshit written all over it. This is so obvious that I suspect someone being extremely lazy in San Diego. They simply forgot to put the item into the database...

Silva · 08-21-2003, 07:11 AM

That lame book doesn't count, thanks.

Nakilos · 08-21-2003, 07:49 AM

It doesn't? Enchanters have 1 class specific item, so do bards/shaman...like every class really. Mages get 2 technically, so do necros, BST get 3 with the book + shinai + bo staves. In case you didn't know the book is the best pet focus item currently in the game, so you get use of a clickable which is handy and being able to make your pets better.

EQ2sucks · 08-21-2003, 07:56 AM

Man wtf don't they come up with some stat to gauge if an item has a pet focus and what it does...

Ham n Cheese · 08-21-2003, 08:05 AM

edit: can't read

Stop putting BST on every 1hb/2hb in the game, pls.

Nazbuk · 08-21-2003, 08:30 AM

Now, I'm not trying to flame you, but just here me out.

There are X number of Wizards and Mages in the game.
There are Y number of Necro's in the game.

IF X is > than Y by oooohhhh 10,000 or greater then give X a class specific item. Y can deal with the multi class item.

I used to play a troll which consisted of 3% of all the servers populace. I used to cry at the shoulders from 'the hole' being useless to me.

Now I know it's not the same thing as class since I was talking about race but it's the same thing in the eye of a businessman.

You'll just have to get over the fact that the necro populace isn't as big as the wizard and mage populace. SOE Isn't some mom and pop shop that cares about the little people. They care about the numbers.

Later,

TownPillager · 08-21-2003, 08:35 AM

The Stave should be Mnk only, and the Shinai should be Bst only...

Beastlord 2h blunt caps at 225 and unless I'm missing something there isn't any good piece of equipment out there with a 2h blunt skill modifier on it. Since most monks end up using 2h blunt anyways why not but just Bst on the H2H weapon since it caps at 250 for them.

CeNo65 · 08-21-2003, 08:39 AM

They shoulda just had gems drop, for preist, caster, melee. Hand the gem to a npc in timeA and poof you get your new class specific "epic"

im sure bsts are pretty pissed off to not have the right click slow item

Tongue · 08-21-2003, 08:53 AM

/hijack on

Quote:

The Stave should be Mnk only, and the Shinai should be Bst only...

uhh yeah ok whatever. Shinai even in the hands of a Bst wont equal what it can do in the hands of a monk. Drive thru please..

/hijack off

Silva · 08-21-2003, 08:58 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Nakilos
It doesn't? Enchanters have 1 class specific item, so do bards/shaman...like every class really. Mages get 2 technically, so do necros, BST get 3 with the book + shinai + bo staves. In case you didn't know the book is the best pet focus item currently in the game, so you get use of a clickable which is handy and being able to make your pets better.

I'm talking about the wiz book, wut r u talking aboot?

EQ2sucks · 08-21-2003, 09:16 AM

Well in that case, wizards get two because they have their class specific book and the primary shared with necros. What's your point?

08-21-2003, 02:00 AM	#1 (permalink)
Neric <insert funny comment here> Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 1,934 -2 Internets	Class only PoP loot Remember the VT item that everyone could use with the exception of erudites? KKK...k? Now this is a similar thing. Everyone gets a new toy except BST, MNK and NEC! If you see the Staff of Transcendence as MNK/BST "only" loot then just NECs get left out. To a certain extend I think class only stuff stinks because it will rott most of the time, but still why do NECs get shafted again? It is of course difficult to come up with useful NEC effects for example since DMF is already covered by the VP robe...maybe that is the reason.

08-21-2003, 02:04 AM	#2 (permalink)
qxx We're not happy til you're not happy. Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Boston Posts: 1,286 -4 Internets	Must suck to be a Necromancer. __________________

08-21-2003, 04:49 AM	#5 (permalink)
Neric <insert funny comment here> Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 1,934 -2 Internets	Both the wand and the symbol are multi class items. Wizards and mages both get a class only items on top of it. BSTs are kinda in the twilight since they share stuff with monks it seems. Edit: This is more like a matter of principle. If 12 out of 13 classes get unique items then it has bullshit written all over it. This is so obvious that I suspect someone being extremely lazy in San Diego. They simply forgot to put the item into the database... Last edited by Neric : 08-21-2003 at 04:57 AM.

08-21-2003, 08:05 AM	#9 (permalink)
Ham n Cheese You can betray me Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Houston Posts: 8,611 +15 Internets	edit: can't read Stop putting BST on every 1hb/2hb in the game, pls. __________________ Xeph Caito Cao'Li Hunky Dory

08-21-2003, 08:30 AM	#10 (permalink)
Nazbuk MC 900 Foot Jesus Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Birmingham Posts: 841	Now, I'm not trying to flame you, but just here me out. There are X number of Wizards and Mages in the game. There are Y number of Necro's in the game. IF X is > than Y by oooohhhh 10,000 or greater then give X a class specific item. Y can deal with the multi class item. I used to play a troll which consisted of 3% of all the servers populace. I used to cry at the shoulders from 'the hole' being useless to me. Now I know it's not the same thing as class since I was talking about race but it's the same thing in the eye of a businessman. You'll just have to get over the fact that the necro populace isn't as big as the wizard and mage populace. SOE Isn't some mom and pop shop that cares about the little people. They care about the numbers. Later, __________________ Nazbuk "Just once I'd love to see a modern-day Square RPG where the women don't look like 12-year-old, quasi-Asian schoolgirls and the men don't look like 12-year-old, quasi-Asian schoolgirls." -Millie

08-21-2003, 02:29 AM	#3 (permalink)
Sindaael Registered User Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 93 -1 Internets	Probably it hasn't dropped yet? And as far as effects go I think you could put Embracing Darkness on it with same cast time as the regular spell.

08-21-2003, 04:17 AM	#4 (permalink)
Nakilos Registered User Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 1,591 +0 Internets	http://lucy.fnord.net/item.html?id=15867 - Wand of Impenetrable Force http://lucy.fnord.net/item.html?id=20508 - Symbol of Ancient Summoning The first is the effect which was a shared effect on the original elemental robes. So technically you get 2 compared to other classes which only get 1, and yes those count as your class specific items. Items which are shared by multiple classes are better than only 1 class items, less likely to rot sooner.

08-21-2003, 07:11 AM	#6 (permalink)
Silva Fuck off Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 388 +0 Internets	That lame book doesn't count, thanks.

08-21-2003, 07:49 AM	#7 (permalink)
Nakilos Registered User Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 1,591 +0 Internets	It doesn't? Enchanters have 1 class specific item, so do bards/shaman...like every class really. Mages get 2 technically, so do necros, BST get 3 with the book + shinai + bo staves. In case you didn't know the book is the best pet focus item currently in the game, so you get use of a clickable which is handy and being able to make your pets better.

08-21-2003, 07:56 AM	#8 (permalink)
EQ2sucks Stick a highlighter up my nose, I'm done Join Date: May 2003 Location: Screenshots Posts: 1,564 +0 Internets	Man wtf don't they come up with some stat to gauge if an item has a pet focus and what it does...

08-21-2003, 08:35 AM	#11 (permalink)
TownPillager Registered User Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 78 -1 Internets	The Stave should be Mnk only, and the Shinai should be Bst only... Beastlord 2h blunt caps at 225 and unless I'm missing something there isn't any good piece of equipment out there with a 2h blunt skill modifier on it. Since most monks end up using 2h blunt anyways why not but just Bst on the H2H weapon since it caps at 250 for them.

08-21-2003, 08:39 AM	#12 (permalink)
CeNo65 FrostShooock Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: San Diego Posts: 574 +6 Internets	They shoulda just had gems drop, for preist, caster, melee. Hand the gem to a npc in timeA and poof you get your new class specific "epic" im sure bsts are pretty pissed off to not have the right click slow item __________________ CeNo65 Black Dragonflight : Shaman

08-21-2003, 09:16 AM	#15 (permalink)
EQ2sucks Stick a highlighter up my nose, I'm done Join Date: May 2003 Location: Screenshots Posts: 1,564 +0 Internets	Well in that case, wizards get two because they have their class specific book and the primary shared with necros. What's your point?

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