The one thing I will miss about EQ in future MMORPG's

Warrik · 05-29-2003, 12:13 AM

XML Skinnable UI....probably the best feature SOE put into EQ. Thomas Kings's skins are so well done....I will miss using his artwork to enhance my UI. I dont think any of the up and coming MMORPGS have plans to use XML skinable UI's.

Thomas King's UI Artwork

Rimidal · 05-29-2003, 02:22 AM

When I was opening this thread I thought it would say

"NOTHING!!11 HAHAHA FAGS!!!11!"

but yes, custom UI was nice

Skitzo · 05-29-2003, 02:46 AM

Its not that great, most UI's in MMORPG's have been far to obtrusive, EQ included even after XML customized skins.

Quineloe · 05-29-2003, 02:47 AM

The fact TKing is out there is because the default UI sucks so incredible hard.
I won't miss his UIs since the default UI in WoW will do the job a hundred times better than EQ Default.

Ishrafael · 05-29-2003, 03:43 AM

Too bad they break the damn thing every time they patch EQ.

Karenne · 05-29-2003, 04:47 AM

My UI folder has been the same since almost 3 - 4 months now, and my UI is still the same after every patch.
I feel sorry for you though!

Warrik · 05-29-2003, 05:08 AM

I just liked the complete flexibilty the current EQ UI offered. From filtering spam to creating new windows to throw specified text into.

I also liked the ability to alter the way the current UI was set up to suit my needs as a gamer.

This was one of the few things EQ did right imo...give the players control over the UI.

Lenardo · 05-29-2003, 06:08 AM

EQ2's ui is xml based as well-in fact currently about 1/3rd to 1/2 of the ui in eq2 is EQ's. as they get the "new" ui windows done they replace the old window in game.

swg wanted to use it but it was implemented too late.

rukidding · 05-29-2003, 08:33 AM

I’ll miss the pve focused environment. All of the recent online games have an element of pvp (daoc, sb). Clearly, it is nearly impossible to balance players for pvp and pve. Any developer even thinking about trying pvp should look at the meager achievements of daoc and sb compared to eq, and the relatively low populations on the Everquest pvp servers.

I’d like to see the results of a pve daoc server with a few dozen uber mobs. Allow people from all three realms to cross-team.

GaliemVaelant · 05-29-2003, 08:44 AM

RuKidding --

What you said about PvP vs PvE... This is one thing that intrigues me about some upcoming games...

I think Sony's idea of servers meant for PvP and servers meant for PvE is the only way to get it right... Should also have seperate servers with both.

The tough part is balancing content, but I think that can be done the same way the old pencil and paper games did it...

Mobs are restricted to the same classes/ abilities as the players, with very few exceptions. Those exceptions should also become available to players in the higher end.

Case in point, if warriors at 65 could AoE Rampage, then alot of problems would be solved in EQ as far as agro and taunt go... Just would have to be instant agro for a set ammount of time on the warrior who did it... After, say, fifteen seconds passes, the agro returns to whatever it was before, but modified by the occurances during that 15 seconds.

This would put the fight back under the control of the players while allowing for an element of strategy -- both things needed.

I'm getting waaay off topic... Excuse me for that. Another thread should be posted on these things, but I'm too new to this house to start adding furniture myself, so I'll hold back on that.

As far as the UI goes, I think EQ's custom UI via XML hit the bull's eye. The only reason it's not absolutely perfect is because it wasn't designed that way from the get-go.

Ritkhan · 05-29-2003, 08:49 AM

Dont take EQ's UI for granted. It's the best in the business by FAR. Almost all current MMORPGs have UI problems and they WISH that their UI was as good as EQ's

Buzze · 05-29-2003, 08:57 AM

i have never been able to compile a set of things that I want in it.

I will miss the fact that no MMORPG will ever end up having as much content as EQ. I don't think that this will ever happen because of competition and lack of a HIGE playerbase.

Samus Aran · 05-29-2003, 09:16 AM

Yeah I'll give a hear hear for EQ's UI. Even if the EQDefault didn't suck, it's the flexibility and customability that's so awesome. Graphics, filtered windows, etc etc.. Some very good stuff and it's probably the one thing SoE's gotten right lately... Besides fixing those doors and spelling errors

Quineloe · 05-29-2003, 10:13 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Ishrafael
Too bad they break the damn thing every time they patch EQ.

Only someone that never installed a custom UI because "they get broken anyways" can say that.

Quineloe · 05-29-2003, 10:18 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by JerleMinara
Yeah I'll give a hear hear for EQ's UI. Even if the EQDefault didn't suck, it's the flexibility and customability that's so awesome. Graphics, filtered windows, etc etc.. Some very good stuff and it's probably the one thing SoE's gotten right lately... Besides fixing those doors and spelling errors

I got locked into Highkeep recently, no matter from where I clicked the door it said "out of range, get closer"

05-29-2003, 12:13 AM	#1 (permalink)
Warrik Ive been reading these boards since noows....that makes me uber Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Rhode Island Posts: 2,088 -3 Internets	The one thing I will miss about EQ in future MMORPG's XML Skinnable UI....probably the best feature SOE put into EQ. Thomas Kings's skins are so well done....I will miss using his artwork to enhance my UI. I dont think any of the up and coming MMORPGS have plans to use XML skinable UI's. Thomas King's UI Artwork

05-29-2003, 04:47 AM	#6 (permalink)
Karenne Registered User Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 39 +0 Internets	My UI folder has been the same since almost 3 - 4 months now, and my UI is still the same after every patch. I feel sorry for you though! __________________ Karenne Kharne Caer Cadarn

05-29-2003, 06:08 AM	#8 (permalink)
Lenardo Registered User Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 2,235 -6 Internets	eq2 EQ2's ui is xml based as well-in fact currently about 1/3rd to 1/2 of the ui in eq2 is EQ's. as they get the "new" ui windows done they replace the old window in game. swg wanted to use it but it was implemented too late.

05-29-2003, 08:44 AM	#10 (permalink)
GaliemVaelant An Excellent Driver Join Date: May 2003 Location: Louisiana Posts: 1,693 +1 Internets	... RuKidding -- What you said about PvP vs PvE... This is one thing that intrigues me about some upcoming games... I think Sony's idea of servers meant for PvP and servers meant for PvE is the only way to get it right... Should also have seperate servers with both. The tough part is balancing content, but I think that can be done the same way the old pencil and paper games did it... Mobs are restricted to the same classes/ abilities as the players, with very few exceptions. Those exceptions should also become available to players in the higher end. Case in point, if warriors at 65 could AoE Rampage, then alot of problems would be solved in EQ as far as agro and taunt go... Just would have to be instant agro for a set ammount of time on the warrior who did it... After, say, fifteen seconds passes, the agro returns to whatever it was before, but modified by the occurances during that 15 seconds. This would put the fight back under the control of the players while allowing for an element of strategy -- both things needed. I'm getting waaay off topic... Excuse me for that. Another thread should be posted on these things, but I'm too new to this house to start adding furniture myself, so I'll hold back on that. As far as the UI goes, I think EQ's custom UI via XML hit the bull's eye. The only reason it's not absolutely perfect is because it wasn't designed that way from the get-go. __________________ "...And now I lay him down to sleep, and pray the lord my son could speak..."

05-29-2003, 08:57 AM	#12 (permalink)
Buzze Banned Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: SATX Posts: 311 +0 Internets	while the UI pwns i have never been able to compile a set of things that I want in it. I will miss the fact that no MMORPG will ever end up having as much content as EQ. I don't think that this will ever happen because of competition and lack of a HIGE playerbase.

05-29-2003, 02:22 AM	#2 (permalink)
Rimidal Herr East Side Rocker Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 41 -1 Internets	When I was opening this thread I thought it would say "NOTHING!!11 HAHAHA FAGS!!!11!" but yes, custom UI was nice

05-29-2003, 02:46 AM	#3 (permalink)
Skitzo Registered User Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 5 +0 Internets	Its not that great, most UI's in MMORPG's have been far to obtrusive, EQ included even after XML customized skins.

05-29-2003, 02:47 AM	#4 (permalink)
Quineloe Hard Rock Hallelujah Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 6,992 -24 Internets	The fact TKing is out there is because the default UI sucks so incredible hard. I won't miss his UIs since the default UI in WoW will do the job a hundred times better than EQ Default.

05-29-2003, 03:43 AM	#5 (permalink)
Ishrafael Banned Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 38 +0 Internets	Too bad they break the damn thing every time they patch EQ.

05-29-2003, 05:08 AM	#7 (permalink)
Warrik Ive been reading these boards since noows....that makes me uber Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Rhode Island Posts: 2,088 -3 Internets	I just liked the complete flexibilty the current EQ UI offered. From filtering spam to creating new windows to throw specified text into. I also liked the ability to alter the way the current UI was set up to suit my needs as a gamer. This was one of the few things EQ did right imo...give the players control over the UI.

05-29-2003, 08:33 AM	#9 (permalink)
rukidding Registered User Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 184 -1 Internets	I’ll miss the pve focused environment. All of the recent online games have an element of pvp (daoc, sb). Clearly, it is nearly impossible to balance players for pvp and pve. Any developer even thinking about trying pvp should look at the meager achievements of daoc and sb compared to eq, and the relatively low populations on the Everquest pvp servers. I’d like to see the results of a pve daoc server with a few dozen uber mobs. Allow people from all three realms to cross-team.

05-29-2003, 08:49 AM	#11 (permalink)
Ritkhan Registered User Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 295 -1 Internets	Dont take EQ's UI for granted. It's the best in the business by FAR. Almost all current MMORPGs have UI problems and they WISH that their UI was as good as EQ's

05-29-2003, 09:16 AM	#13 (permalink)
Samus Aran Sons of the Storm Heal Bitch Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 771 +1 Internets	Yeah I'll give a hear hear for EQ's UI. Even if the EQDefault didn't suck, it's the flexibility and customability that's so awesome. Graphics, filtered windows, etc etc.. Some very good stuff and it's probably the one thing SoE's gotten right lately... Besides fixing those doors and spelling errors

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