Video card question

xregg · 04-25-2003, 11:15 AM

Hi. I was wondering if any of you out there are using the ATI 9800. Right now i am using a p4 1,5ghz 1 gig of ram and a geforce 4 ti 4600. My frame rates are crappy even running with as little as 4 models turned on. Would the ATI give me an increase in performance? Also would the card work in my agp slot since it is a 4x and the ati is a 8x? I am looking for any increase in performance even if it is as little as 10%. Any input you guys have on ati would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.

Xregg

Sequeli · 04-25-2003, 11:38 AM

i'm running my ati 9800 pro in 2x

Clug · 04-25-2003, 11:53 AM

It is your piece of shit CPU if you are getting bad frame rates in EQ with a Ti4600.

valarin · 04-25-2003, 11:54 AM

buy a faster cpu+motherboard

also, if you want a 9800 save your money and buy a 9700 pro. they cost less and for most things pretty darn close in speed to the 9800. The small speed advantage is not worth the difference in cost.

Alumriel · 04-25-2003, 12:48 PM

I'm not sure what you consider "crappy" framerates, but they should be decent with that hardware if you only have 4 luclin models turned on. (except maybe in PoK or the Bazaar)

There are other factors that can lower your performance, of course. Hard drive, motherboard bios settings, swap file size, OS settings, etc etc etc....

WarderX · 04-25-2003, 02:01 PM

belevie it ro not, everquest preforms leaps and bounds beter with a geforce4 rather then a 9700 pro.

Diffrent from every other game on the market lol

titanis · 04-25-2003, 02:54 PM

second pc is a p3 slot 1 650mhz 1 gig sdram with a geforce 4 ti 4200 and i have 9 models on and no problems.

make sure you have the latest drives.

www.nvidia.com

xregg · 04-25-2003, 03:37 PM

Ive tweaked out my winxp as much as i know how. I dont really have the money to buy a new system right now so i was trying to get away with maybe just a video card. Anyone have those new geforce fx cards?

Xregg

Immortalis · 04-25-2003, 03:52 PM

from my understanding the GeforceFX does not compete well enough with the high end ATI cards to justify spending that amount of money on a high end video card.

My system specs:
p4 2.5g
1024 megs of ddr333 ram
asus motherboard w/500mhz fsb
Geforce2 Ultra 64 (this is the weakest link in my system right now)

with this setup I dont lag in EQ very much at all, however I only have 3 models on.

Immortalis · 04-25-2003, 03:53 PM

oh I also run WinXP as my OS

xregg · 04-25-2003, 03:59 PM

Id love for eq to run like a game of quake 3 but i dont think thats ever gonna happen no matter what i buy. I like most of the new models except for halfling and gnone and would shit myself if i could even just have all the male models turned on.

I keep getting this weird feeling that there is some kind of operating system tweak or other tweak that i am over looking /shrug

I will spend the 400$ even if i know that it will be a 10% increase in performance. I just need to know which card will give me that from a geforce 4 which im using now.

Xregg
Ayonae Ro

P.S. I dont know shit about bios tweaks or anything like that. Anyone have any links to tweak pages?

Zak · 04-25-2003, 04:55 PM

Not sure why you are gettin such bad lag, i run a 4600ti, with almost all models on, and hardly get any lag

Dell 8100
P4 2.4Ghz
512 Megs of RDram
GeForce 4 4600ti

Windows XP Pro.

Ritkhan · 04-25-2003, 06:57 PM

Sony makes EQ to run well on geforce cards. I'm sure they have a deal going with Nvidia. Currently ATI cards are far superior to Nvidia in all ways but EQ. Go figure. Even the EQ2 demo movies are advertised as being shown on the latest and greatest geforce fx

crazyphil · 04-25-2003, 08:32 PM

Based on what I've read here and on other boards, I'd say you should up the speed of your CPU. When I played EQ, I ran a P4 1.6, 768 megs of RAM, and a Ti4600 with 128 MB of RAM.

With all Luclin models on, it ran like ass when there were more than 5-6 people on the screen but there we no problems with models off. I'd definitely say get a faster CPU.

Saleem · 04-25-2003, 09:17 PM

Quote:

Sony makes EQ to run well on geforce cards. I'm sure they have a deal going with Nvidia. Currently ATI cards are far superior to Nvidia in all ways but EQ. Go figure. Even the EQ2 demo movies are advertised as being shown on the latest and greatest geforce fx

I guess no one remembers when Sony put it on the EQ front page that they were working with nVidia?

-Saleem

04-25-2003, 11:15 AM	#1 (permalink)
xregg Tattooman Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Bergen County, New Jersey Posts: 516 -2 Internets	Video card question Hi. I was wondering if any of you out there are using the ATI 9800. Right now i am using a p4 1,5ghz 1 gig of ram and a geforce 4 ti 4600. My frame rates are crappy even running with as little as 4 models turned on. Would the ATI give me an increase in performance? Also would the card work in my agp slot since it is a 4x and the ati is a 8x? I am looking for any increase in performance even if it is as little as 10%. Any input you guys have on ati would be greatly appreciated. Thanks. Xregg

04-25-2003, 12:48 PM	#5 (permalink)
Alumriel Registered User Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 27 -1 Internets	I'm not sure what you consider "crappy" framerates, but they should be decent with that hardware if you only have 4 luclin models turned on. (except maybe in PoK or the Bazaar) There are other factors that can lower your performance, of course. Hard drive, motherboard bios settings, swap file size, OS settings, etc etc etc.... __________________ Alumriel 65 Maestro Bristlebane Server I'm a loot whore

04-25-2003, 03:37 PM	#8 (permalink)
xregg Tattooman Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Bergen County, New Jersey Posts: 516 -2 Internets	.. Ive tweaked out my winxp as much as i know how. I dont really have the money to buy a new system right now so i was trying to get away with maybe just a video card. Anyone have those new geforce fx cards? Xregg

04-25-2003, 03:52 PM	#9 (permalink)
Immortalis Dark Elven Prophet Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 67 -1 Internets	from my understanding the GeforceFX does not compete well enough with the high end ATI cards to justify spending that amount of money on a high end video card. My system specs: p4 2.5g 1024 megs of ddr333 ram asus motherboard w/500mhz fsb Geforce2 Ultra 64 (this is the weakest link in my system right now) with this setup I dont lag in EQ very much at all, however I only have 3 models on. __________________ Immortalis the Dark Elven Overlord of Eternal Wrath Ayonae`Ro

04-25-2003, 03:53 PM	#10 (permalink)
Immortalis Dark Elven Prophet Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 67 -1 Internets	oops forgot oh I also run WinXP as my OS __________________ Immortalis the Dark Elven Overlord of Eternal Wrath Ayonae`Ro

04-25-2003, 11:38 AM	#2 (permalink)
Sequeli Registered User Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 11 -1 Internets	i'm running my ati 9800 pro in 2x

04-25-2003, 11:53 AM	#3 (permalink)
Clug title? I don't need no stinkin title Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 770	It is your piece of shit CPU if you are getting bad frame rates in EQ with a Ti4600.

04-25-2003, 11:54 AM	#4 (permalink)
valarin Registered User Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 130 -1 Internets	buy a faster cpu+motherboard also, if you want a 9800 save your money and buy a 9700 pro. they cost less and for most things pretty darn close in speed to the 9800. The small speed advantage is not worth the difference in cost.

04-25-2003, 02:01 PM	#6 (permalink)
WarderX Registered User Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Atlanta, Georgia Posts: 1,593 +1 Internets	belevie it ro not, everquest preforms leaps and bounds beter with a geforce4 rather then a 9700 pro. Diffrent from every other game on the market lol

04-25-2003, 02:54 PM	#7 (permalink)
titanis Paradigm Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 47 -1 Internets	second pc is a p3 slot 1 650mhz 1 gig sdram with a geforce 4 ti 4200 and i have 9 models on and no problems. make sure you have the latest drives. www.nvidia.com

04-25-2003, 03:59 PM	#11 (permalink)
xregg Tattooman Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Bergen County, New Jersey Posts: 516 -2 Internets	. Id love for eq to run like a game of quake 3 but i dont think thats ever gonna happen no matter what i buy. I like most of the new models except for halfling and gnone and would shit myself if i could even just have all the male models turned on. I keep getting this weird feeling that there is some kind of operating system tweak or other tweak that i am over looking /shrug I will spend the 400$ even if i know that it will be a 10% increase in performance. I just need to know which card will give me that from a geforce 4 which im using now. Xregg Ayonae Ro P.S. I dont know shit about bios tweaks or anything like that. Anyone have any links to tweak pages? Last edited by xregg : 04-25-2003 at 04:04 PM.

04-25-2003, 04:55 PM	#12 (permalink)
Zak Registered User Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Toronto Posts: 3 +0 Internets	Not sure why you are gettin such bad lag, i run a 4600ti, with almost all models on, and hardly get any lag Dell 8100 P4 2.4Ghz 512 Megs of RDram GeForce 4 4600ti Windows XP Pro.

04-25-2003, 06:57 PM	#13 (permalink)
Ritkhan Registered User Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 295 -1 Internets	Sony makes EQ to run well on geforce cards. I'm sure they have a deal going with Nvidia. Currently ATI cards are far superior to Nvidia in all ways but EQ. Go figure. Even the EQ2 demo movies are advertised as being shown on the latest and greatest geforce fx

04-25-2003, 08:32 PM	#14 (permalink)
crazyphil Registered User Join Date: May 2002 Location: Grand Cayman Posts: 37 -1 Internets	d Based on what I've read here and on other boards, I'd say you should up the speed of your CPU. When I played EQ, I ran a P4 1.6, 768 megs of RAM, and a Ti4600 with 128 MB of RAM. With all Luclin models on, it ran like ass when there were more than 5-6 people on the screen but there we no problems with models off. I'd definitely say get a faster CPU.

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