Fix MGB / KEI etc or leave it alone? - Page 3

Luthair · 04-21-2003, 07:47 AM

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Req levels were the stupidest shit put into this game. SOE puts some levels on shit that I wouldnt GIVE to level 1's.

/agree, it was a dumb idea, the only thing I can see putting recommended levels on would be boss items (No 46s w/ Tunare items etc.)

Deathwing · 04-21-2003, 11:03 AM

No baelron, that is incorrect. What you described was how DS's worked for a couple days. This was unintentional. For a couple days, bards, clerics, and wizards could level up even faster because they all had unlimited target AE's. But now it's back to the way it was before. All DS agro goes to the environment. Which means it doesn't count at all.

Candiarie · 04-21-2003, 02:00 PM

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Originally posted by Baelron
No, I think when they "fixed" it its still different from how it was originally. Before you could cast the dmg shield on the newb and he only had to do 1 point of dmg to get the kill. The dmg done by the dmg shield went to whoever did the most dmg, 1 point of dmg being enough.

Now I believe the dmg shield goes to the person its cast ON. Being that if you have dmg shield on and something kills itself upon the dmg shield, you get the kill, even if you dont do a single point of dmg. BUT if someone else does dmg to it, or more dmg then you, they get the dmg done by dmg shield.

Soooo...now all i need to do is cast a bigass group ds on my twink, disband, pull as many mobs as i can find and let the ds kill them all w/o doing any dmg from the twink?

Baelron · 04-21-2003, 02:14 PM

I thought when they "broke" DS that the dmg was going to the person that cast the buff?

Go ahead and test the way it is now, I believe im correct.

Deathwing · 04-21-2003, 06:10 PM

http://www.mobhunter.com/article.jsp...leid=676004454

3rd paragraph down.

Candiarie · 04-21-2003, 06:29 PM

If I have a rune up and a ds, does the ds still work?

Proctus · 04-22-2003, 01:41 AM

Basically this is what I did to level up my cleric.

I took him to Castle Mistmore around level 14.
I cast Rune, illusion fire elemental, our 11 point ds, and a few other buffs.
I would pull a train, 15 or so Dark elves. Bring them back to zone in, ae stun and let my cleric ae nuke a few times to make sure he does some damage to all the mobs. Now I back him off and let all the mobs attack my chanter, who can take lots of hits with the 1500 point rune. I just chain cast rune till all the mobs died. Cleric gets all the exp (since he and the DS did all the damage). Now, I tried this the other day with a friends cleric, and it no longer works that way. So maybe I wasn't technical with how Damage shields work now, but apparently they don't work like they have been working for say... the last year or so. Gratz on nerfage.

gimpz0r · 04-23-2003, 07:36 AM

this has all been changed in todays patch

bummer to this new DS bug was the best i took my dwarf pally from 1-22 in like one hour in Paludal

could cast a druid DS on him and let him stand there, mobs died and he got XP, he didnt even have to damage them

sure, he sucks, but its 22 levels i can skip

Liz · 04-23-2003, 10:20 AM

Ok I'll admit I didn't read a damn thing except the first post but... HELLO?!? You've been able to put group buffs on lowbies well before MGB existed and wtf cares anyway?

Tweedius · 04-23-2003, 01:08 PM

Another thing recommended levels on items does it drive down their prices horribly. I remember when I used to hunt in Tier 1 in PoP and occasionally you'd get this random drop off mobs you'd killed a hundred times. You were excited (of course you looked past the item restriction), wow! I might actually make 1-2k plat selling this to someone's twink! Only to find that because of how crappy it was for someone of your level that it was worth maybe 100plat lol. Level restrictions on items = richard simmons gay.

-Tweed

04-21-2003, 06:29 PM	#36 (permalink)
Candiarie Registered User Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 671 -1 Internets	If I have a rune up and a ds, does the ds still work? __________________

04-22-2003, 01:41 AM	#37 (permalink)
Proctus Registered User Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 3 -1 Internets	Damage shields Basically this is what I did to level up my cleric. I took him to Castle Mistmore around level 14. I cast Rune, illusion fire elemental, our 11 point ds, and a few other buffs. I would pull a train, 15 or so Dark elves. Bring them back to zone in, ae stun and let my cleric ae nuke a few times to make sure he does some damage to all the mobs. Now I back him off and let all the mobs attack my chanter, who can take lots of hits with the 1500 point rune. I just chain cast rune till all the mobs died. Cleric gets all the exp (since he and the DS did all the damage). Now, I tried this the other day with a friends cleric, and it no longer works that way. So maybe I wasn't technical with how Damage shields work now, but apparently they don't work like they have been working for say... the last year or so. Gratz on nerfage.

04-23-2003, 01:08 PM	#40 (permalink)
Tweedius Banned cause I made fun of Furor's new gay ass updates =) Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Druzzil Ro Posts: 271 -1 Internets	Another thing recommended levels on items does it drive down their prices horribly. I remember when I used to hunt in Tier 1 in PoP and occasionally you'd get this random drop off mobs you'd killed a hundred times. You were excited (of course you looked past the item restriction), wow! I might actually make 1-2k plat selling this to someone's twink! Only to find that because of how crappy it was for someone of your level that it was worth maybe 100plat lol. Level restrictions on items = richard simmons gay. -Tweed __________________ Druzzil Ro

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04-21-2003, 11:03 AM	#32 (permalink)
Deathwing Sisko is the new Picard Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 1,655 +1 Internets	No baelron, that is incorrect. What you described was how DS's worked for a couple days. This was unintentional. For a couple days, bards, clerics, and wizards could level up even faster because they all had unlimited target AE's. But now it's back to the way it was before. All DS agro goes to the environment. Which means it doesn't count at all.

04-21-2003, 02:14 PM	#34 (permalink)
Baelron Registered User Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 24 -1 Internets	I thought when they "broke" DS that the dmg was going to the person that cast the buff? Go ahead and test the way it is now, I believe im correct.

04-21-2003, 06:10 PM	#35 (permalink)
Deathwing Sisko is the new Picard Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 1,655 +1 Internets	http://www.mobhunter.com/article.jsp...leid=676004454 3rd paragraph down.

04-23-2003, 07:36 AM	#38 (permalink)
gimpz0r The Gimp Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: IL Posts: 127 -1 Internets	this has all been changed in todays patch bummer to this new DS bug was the best i took my dwarf pally from 1-22 in like one hour in Paludal could cast a druid DS on him and let him stand there, mobs died and he got XP, he didnt even have to damage them sure, he sucks, but its 22 levels i can skip

04-23-2003, 10:20 AM	#39 (permalink)
Liz Banned Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 355 +0 Internets	Ok I'll admit I didn't read a damn thing except the first post but... HELLO?!? You've been able to put group buffs on lowbies well before MGB existed and wtf cares anyway?