Elemental Chest Pieces - Page 2

TheJob · 03-31-2003, 01:06 PM

I like the ideas of destruction, composure, and elusive, but dont you think 25 ds compared to 25 stamina drain is a little unbalanced?

kinma · 03-31-2003, 01:18 PM

The problem with regen is the same problem that I had with my fungi in the first place.

Regen will not save your ass from the hits or ae's in the elemental planes, so why bother?

The poster has a valid point. Give something to the people that are in Time that they may actually appreciate and use.

For god's sake...not regen.

Slansin · 03-31-2003, 01:21 PM

What the hell do I know about balance? I play 1 character, who happens to be a rogue.

My point was this: With very little thought, I was able to come up with distinct effects for all 3 BP's, in line with the "lore" of the items, and basically in line with the function of the classes that would use them. Effects that would see more use than vanilla Avatar that does jack and shit when everyone who'd get these BP's already have maxed str, dex, agi, and item atk.

If they want to use the idea and balance it, they can go right ahead. I'm not a dev, and I shouldn't do all their work for them.

Allele · 03-31-2003, 01:25 PM

Odds that BP effects will change the first patch after first BPs drop?

I'd hope pretty high, sticking on an essentially useless effect and holding back on adding what you wanted to add (clicky illusion gnome for all) seems the best way to keep the gnome community from absolute uproar AND piss off the uber crowd at the same time.

Thand · 03-31-2003, 02:10 PM

personaly id like the warsong of vah shir or even warsong of zek effect that was on a earlyer picture of the monk bp. or even Jonthan's Inspiration
least woudl have some use.
Thand

Demorgoth · 04-01-2003, 05:04 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Slansin
[b]Rogues get Bidilis' of the Elusive.

Elusive
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Add Proc Effect: Elusive: -300 hate
Increase Atk: 25

Quote:

Originally posted by Slansin
[b]What the hell do I know about balance? I play 1 character, who happens to be a rogue.

A FoH rogue asking for +atk on elemental BPs...

There's something you won't see every day...

I'm a warrior, no aten neck, and still within 10atk of the cap once I pick up gloves and a bracer. I wouldn't imagine that any melee looting an elemental BP would benefit from additional +atk whatsoever.

Slansin · 04-01-2003, 05:50 AM

If you're going to quote me, why not quote the whole thing?

Quote:

Make sure the atk is SPELL ATK not gay-capped item atk.

That's the whole point of making the effects right-clicks, and not worn effects.

Eraic · 04-02-2003, 03:51 AM

Shrug, all I want on my bp is an effect with 10% v3 haste, or maybe even scrounge around with primal guard for 5% v3 haste.

Eraic

Aldous · 04-02-2003, 06:50 AM

how do you know the bp effect avatar is the item version and not the spell version?

Lauraliane · 04-02-2003, 07:04 AM

If it is the spell version you ll have to use an emerald with each cast, enjoy

Thand · 04-02-2003, 08:14 PM

id be wiling to carry a bac full of emeralds

serious now if they made it primal or primevial avatar that be a differnt story

Thand

Destinae · 04-02-2003, 10:37 PM

The worn regen cap isn't 35, try closer to 50.

We know it's the primal weapon avatar spell because of lucy.

Parv · 04-03-2003, 03:28 AM

Quote:

The worn regen cap isn't 35, try closer to 50

I have 37 worn regen in items, and 10 naked. So why do I only get 45 regen/tick while wearing all my gear? Hell, I can take off one of my AoBattle items (2 regen) and still get 45 regen/tick. I remember Hobbun testing this and saying that he was not getting 15 regen from putting on his fungal tunic. Am I just missing something, or do monks get a different worn regen cap?

Destinae · 04-03-2003, 04:40 AM

nm, didn't know standing regen at 65 is 7. I checked it awhile ago with 38 item regen and mistaked 48 total regen for being uncapped.

03-31-2003, 01:18 PM	#17 (permalink)
kinma Registered User Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 13 -1 Internets	The problem with regen is the same problem that I had with my fungi in the first place. Regen will not save your ass from the hits or ae's in the elemental planes, so why bother? The poster has a valid point. Give something to the people that are in Time that they may actually appreciate and use. For god's sake...not regen. __________________ [65 Transcendant] Sensei Kinma Tryst [65 Storm Warden] Baroness Portisha Darkwillow Lotus Cult - Quellious Server

03-31-2003, 02:10 PM	#20 (permalink)
Thand Registered User Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 65 -1 Internets	personaly id like the warsong of vah shir or even warsong of zek effect that was on a earlyer picture of the monk bp. or even Jonthan's Inspiration least woudl have some use. Thand __________________ Thand Ros -Legions of Darkness- Innoruuk Last edited by Thand : 03-31-2003 at 02:14 PM.

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Eraic Registered User Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 8 -1 Internets	Shrug, all I want on my bp is an effect with 10% v3 haste, or maybe even scrounge around with primal guard for 5% v3 haste. Eraic __________________ Eraic Penarvon 65th Level Rogue Magister

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Thand Registered User Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 65 -1 Internets	id be wiling to carry a bac full of emeralds serious now if they made it primal or primevial avatar that be a differnt story Thand __________________ Thand Ros -Legions of Darkness- Innoruuk

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03-31-2003, 01:06 PM	#16 (permalink)
TheJob Banned Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: ... Posts: 57 +0 Internets	I like the ideas of destruction, composure, and elusive, but dont you think 25 ds compared to 25 stamina drain is a little unbalanced?

03-31-2003, 01:21 PM	#18 (permalink)
Slansin Fires of Heaven Officer Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 77 -1 Internets	What the hell do I know about balance? I play 1 character, who happens to be a rogue. My point was this: With very little thought, I was able to come up with distinct effects for all 3 BP's, in line with the "lore" of the items, and basically in line with the function of the classes that would use them. Effects that would see more use than vanilla Avatar that does jack and shit when everyone who'd get these BP's already have maxed str, dex, agi, and item atk. If they want to use the idea and balance it, they can go right ahead. I'm not a dev, and I shouldn't do all their work for them.

03-31-2003, 01:25 PM	#19 (permalink)
Allele Registered User Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 6 -1 Internets	Odds that BP effects will change the first patch after first BPs drop? I'd hope pretty high, sticking on an essentially useless effect and holding back on adding what you wanted to add (clicky illusion gnome for all) seems the best way to keep the gnome community from absolute uproar AND piss off the uber crowd at the same time.

04-02-2003, 06:50 AM	#24 (permalink)
Aldous Registered User Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 23 -1 Internets	how do you know the bp effect avatar is the item version and not the spell version?

04-02-2003, 07:04 AM	#25 (permalink)
Lauraliane Registered User Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: France Posts: 29 -1 Internets	If it is the spell version you ll have to use an emerald with each cast, enjoy

04-02-2003, 10:37 PM	#27 (permalink)
Destinae Fires of Heaven Officer Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 248 +0 Internets	The worn regen cap isn't 35, try closer to 50. We know it's the primal weapon avatar spell because of lucy.

04-03-2003, 04:40 AM	#29 (permalink)
Destinae Fires of Heaven Officer Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 248 +0 Internets	nm, didn't know standing regen at 65 is 7. I checked it awhile ago with 38 item regen and mistaked 48 total regen for being uncapped.