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Old 03-10-2003, 08:54 AM   #16 (permalink)
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Duh

The caster bps are good because they have frequently used spells on them. Don't see why that isn't the same for melee bps.

In the case of pure melee (war, rogue, monk), take a skill they already have or do/have often.

War: DI
Rogue: Summon (or just apply) a good posion
Monk: Super Bandage (targetable, heals 300-500hp)
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Old 03-10-2003, 08:56 AM   #17 (permalink)
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Warrior:

Effect: Death Pact (innate) or Voice of Thule (innate)
Focus: Furious Bash VII

Paladin:

Effect: Aura of Resolution
Focus: Marr's Blessing

Shadowknight:

Effect: Aura of Resolution
Focus: Wrath of Druzzil

Ranger:

Effect: Beguiling Visage (if they add aggro to range attacks?)
Focus: Wrath of Ro

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Effect: Battlecry of the Vah Shir (innate possible?)

Beastlord:

Effect: Aura of Resolution
Focus: Wrath of E'ci

Bard:

Effect: Beguiling Visage
Focus: Wind of the Nightcrawler (Does spellhaste work with songs? )

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Effect: Battlecry of the Vah Shir (innate possible?)
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Old 03-10-2003, 09:22 AM   #18 (permalink)
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(Does spellhaste work with songs? )
No, neither do any other focus effects.

And I think bard BP having all insturment types would be great. I dont plan on forever wearing elemental armor like I never planned on wearing Kunark armor forever.

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Old 03-10-2003, 09:30 AM   #19 (permalink)
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Bard - Screeching Pipe of Pan; attracts all non-PC's to the bard.
Maybe I'm missing something here... but why in the world would I want to attract all the mobs/NPCs to me? Wouldn't this effect be much better suited on a warrior BP?

I agree with Frodlin in so far as the blanket instrument effect is concerned. Individual modifiers on armor, as per some of the elemental pieces, is definately a better idea. It doesn't make you so hesitant to upgrade that slot, but at the same time, it's a very nice thing to have, for convenience's sake.

Good question about whether or not it would be possible to have an innate Vah Shir haste. I don't really know, but I assume not, since all worn haste is inherently slot 1 haste. You could do it with a click though, most definately. The idea could present some balance problems, though, when in a few months to a year the BPs are more prolific.
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Old 03-10-2003, 09:46 AM   #20 (permalink)
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Elemental armour

Not sure what'cha folks trying to argue about, but all the bp's are already in the game and all of the elemental melee bps' have avatar on them, check image attached.
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Old 03-10-2003, 09:58 AM   #21 (permalink)
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Originally posted by Benren
Maybe I'm missing something here... but why in the world would I want to attract all the mobs/NPCs to me? Wouldn't this effect be much better suited on a warrior BP?

I agree with Frodlin in so far as the blanket instrument effect is concerned. Individual modifiers on armor, as per some of the elemental pieces, is definately a better idea. It doesn't make you so hesitant to upgrade that slot, but at the same time, it's a very nice thing to have, for convenience's sake.

Good question about whether or not it would be possible to have an innate Vah Shir haste. I don't really know, but I assume not, since all worn haste is inherently slot 1 haste. You could do it with a click though, most definately. The idea could present some balance problems, though, when in a few months to a year the BPs are more prolific.
sarcasm, dumbass.
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Old 03-10-2003, 10:11 AM   #22 (permalink)
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Not sure what'cha folks trying to argue about, but all the bp's are already in the game and all of the elemental melee bps' have avatar on them, check image attached.
Avatar on a BP does fuck all if you're in the position to get one. I'm a magmaton neck away from being capped, and there's plenty of other melee out there that are already well past the cap. I'm maxed out unbuffed in all melee stats, so after 1 more easy item upgrade I would *never* have reason to use the effect. Either get a new bp effect, or increase the cap so that the added atk from avatar will mean something.
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Old 03-10-2003, 10:35 AM   #23 (permalink)
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I totally agree. Any warrior/monk/rogue in the position to obtain this BP will have maxxed str/dex/agi/atk. It's a completely useless effect no one would even click.
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Old 03-10-2003, 10:38 AM   #24 (permalink)
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Not all of them. Bard BP has a 3.0 cast time 60% haste 50 STR 50 Attack group buff.
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Old 03-10-2003, 10:52 AM   #25 (permalink)
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A 190 hp on the warrior elemental BP sucks. Why not make it 250hp or 300hp? Why does Verant always make pussy upgrades? 100 hp and 125hp bp have been around forever.
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Old 03-10-2003, 11:32 AM   #26 (permalink)
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SoE doesn't want the Melee BP effects to be powerful, as is evidenced by using an effect from 3 expansions ago that is now 100% useless. They should at least make it something fun. Maybe an Imbue effect of the Call of XXX. So you could imbue whatever your primary weapon was with that pet effect. They help with rampage and do a little damage. I dunno, but anything is better than Avatar.
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Old 03-10-2003, 11:39 AM   #27 (permalink)
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non casting melee (monk rog war) should have a nifty innate effect, like 5% less dmg for warrior,or a hate modifier or whatever and not some casting spell shit. spells on stuff was allready a bad idea in kunark. for "hybrid" either a good spell of theirs or an inate effect aswell.
just dont put something boring like ven X on it.
but since the BPs are allready made i doubt it will change.
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Old 03-10-2003, 11:40 AM   #28 (permalink)
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Ranger: Illusion of the Beast (Faun illusion)
lolz. Illusion: Beaver would also be desirable.
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Old 03-10-2003, 11:52 AM   #29 (permalink)
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SKs do not want/need a self aggro increaser. We have no problems holding aggro in exp groups already. And on raids we don't want aggro.

Give us a Spear spell or Blood of Hate and we got something.
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Old 03-10-2003, 12:23 PM   #30 (permalink)
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SKs do not want/need a self aggro increaser. We have no problems holding aggro in exp groups already. And on raids we don't want aggro.

Give us a Spear spell or Blood of Hate and we got something.
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