Just a quick question

[seanwin]

Just wondering
Does Chanter crack stack with Bst crack?
Reason Im askin is usually when spells dont stack, the better one will overwrite the other (or so Ive seen), but I looks like both are on when i have them cast on me.

Thanks

[Bazael]

yes they stack

bst crack won't stack with a fewo ther buffs though (wizard epic, i think some ranger buffs or some crap)

[Sarthis]

Reason Im askin is usually when spells dont stack, the better one will overwrite the other (or so Ive seen), but I looks like both are on when i have them cast on me.

Naturally, I would normally assume you were asking if the effects stacked or not, as it is possible to have two non-stacking buffs on you but not have the benefits from one or either. However, you seem to be fairly aware of how buff stacking works and does not work so I'm going to just be an ass and assume that isn't what you were asking.

So, that being said, let me get this straight.

You, having seen both spells in your buff slots simultaneously (that means at the same time), you come here asking if they stack?

[seanwin]

Thanks Bazael
Appreciate the answer

Seanwin

[TownPillager]

As the one guy above answered, yes the Beastlord Spiritual regen line stacks with both the Enchanter Mana regen (Clarity, KEI, Tranquility, Voice of Quellious) and Shaman/Druid/Beastlord HP regen (Regeneration, Chloroplast, Regrowth, Replenishment).

So if a target has Voice of Quellious, Replenishment, and Spiritual Dominion he is getting 27 Mana/34 HP per tick regen.

[seanwin]

PS Sarthis
Unless you have any idea what your talking about {or cannot do things simultaneously (that means at the same time),} you would recall when Focus DID NOT stack with Str/Dex/Ag, yet the spell icons would be in your buff slots. That is why i asked such a seemingly moronic question.

Thanks TownPillager for giving me the lowdown on the actual stats for the regen, I had never botherd to parse them.

Cheers

[Zistrix]

Sean:

http://lucy.fnord.net/

Bookmark that and check it out. You can find out what stacks with who and what the hell for

[thaak]

Originally posted by TownPillager
So if a target has Voice of Quellious, Replenishment, and Spiritual Dominion he is getting 27 Mana/34 HP per tick regen.

That's fucking crazy shit.

[Karenne]

Unless im mistaking, right click Eyepatch of Plunder (Captain Nalot's Quickening) was/is stacking with enchanter/shammie hastes (as both buff icons were up), but effects werent stacking, They werent overwriting each other.
Thats the only case of having both spell up but not stacking that i can think of though

[Worfless]

enchanter haste like speed of vallon stacks with the other hastes, both dex bonuses are given, but only the higher haste effect kicks in

[Samus Aran]

Lots of bard haste songs will stack but not give the haste portion (not the overhaste ones, obviously).

[Lysiander Schattenwald]

So if a target has Voice of Quellious, Replenishment, and Spiritual Dominion he is getting 27 Mana/34 HP per tick regen.

Add Protection of the Nine (Or blessing for that matter) and Kazaad. And you get 35 mana/ 34 HP and more HPs then Virtue. (You loose quite some AC tho.) For casters, that's the way to go.

Add FT15 and decent Manaconservation and you'll have a real hard time going OOM.

[Frelance]

Top mana regen comes up every so often. It's repeated enough that there's no reason to be ambiguous. Here's some real numbers, enjoy!

1 innate, standing
3 Mental Clarity 3 AA
5 Koadic's Heightened Focus
8 Blessing of the Nine
9 Spiritual Dominion
15 Flowing Thought
18 Voice of Quellious
19 horse (sitting, 1, plus Meditate bonus, 18)
21 Chorus of Marr

99 seated, or mounted, mana per tick

Everyone except Magicians can use Rod of Mystical Transvergence, also, for 7mana/tick. Here are some class-specific tricks that add on:

Wizards add Harvest mana, and Harvest of Druzzil mana, which work out to 8 mana per tick, together, if cast at every reset, and their Allegiant Familiar at 8 also. Force Shield gives them 2 additional per tick.

Enchanters can add Gather Mana, 5000mana usable every 100minutes approximately. If the enchanter manages to be oom whenever it resets, he gets just barely less than 5mana/tick from it. They also, conditionally, have Theft of Thought and the two mana dots at their disposal. Theft is 375/2min, 18/tick; the dots are 56/tick, together, if they're kept on constantly.

Necromancers use Seduction of Saryn (50mana for 63hp/tick) instead of VoQ, buffing themselves to 131/tick. Technically, they also have Infusion, but that's never actually been used that I know of.

Druids have Mask of the Forest, 4mana/tick, to add. That's pretty likely to be overwritten by any mana attack that a mob casts by nature of its buff slot, but it's up 99% of the time despite that.

Though high-maintenance, Clerics can use Yaulp VI to add 12/tick.

Skipping the normal Cannibalize spells, since they're too irregular in use to calc, a Shaman can add 1066mana every 69seconds with Cannibalization AA, for 92 mana/tick. For those keeping track of the relative numbers: yeah, that's insanely good, but it's why all their nukes and heals suck.

Hybrids all get an additional 1 mana/tick from class aa.

It is possible for each bard in group to provide his or her casters with an additional twenty-something mana per tick in pulse mana, but it's been hashed out elsewhere that this is an extremely inefficient use of thier power.

[Drinn]

Originally posted by Frelance

Skipping the normal Cannibalize spells, since they're too irregular in use to calc, a Shaman can add 1066mana every 69seconds with Cannibalization AA, for 92 mana/tick. For those keeping track of the relative numbers: yeah, that's insanely good, but it's why all their nukes and heals suck.

Canni AA is every 3 mins, not every 69 seconds, you were close though

[Clericnon2boxed]

Boon of Recovery doesnt stack with Spiritual Dominon