shadowbane, march 25th

[Tantis]

Umm the DAoC pvp system does suck, and Shadowbane's is much better.

[Szlia]

You might want to slowly re-read what you quoted Karae hehe

[Physics Theory]

Originally posted by Yanny
Personally, I can't wait for Shadowbane. It's pvp system is perfect, much better than the lame Daoc system.

Originally posted by Karae
Have you ever played DAoC? No? Didn't think so. STFU about how 'perfect' it is, retard.

Reading.

Comprehension.

[aychamo_aycono]

Lol. The two least used skills on the internet.

You playing in SB, PT?

[Physics Theory]

Originally posted by aychamo_aycono
You playing in SB, PT?

Nah wasn't really planning on it, but after release if it looks good, I'll probably give it a go. I won't be pre-ordering or anything that's for sure. I've seen too many MMORPGs die in the water. Particularly AO, that was a real clusterfuck for several months after opening.

[Confused]

I have been in Shadowbane beta for a few moths now and you should be glad it got delayed. It started out kinda "bleh" but it is turning out to be a very good game. It is in its near final form, and all I got so say is its a HELL-UVA-GAME. Believe me, SB is worth investing in. Between PvP, cities, and a system to keep inflation in check without item decay, it friggin rocks.

[Mesk]

can SB be played without any of the PvP crap i hate?

[Iannis]

oh hell, lets start up THE REPUBLIC OF THE WIN on SB if you guys are hitting it too...we'll ownz0r all ya'll.

and considering PvP is the focus of the game the answer to that question is no.

[findar]

when i hit the sb beta the game was rough, half the classes werent finished, city system was being toyed with, no such thing as lore or quests, mobs were hard to find and semi-easy to exploit. server stability was a joke.

that was a little more then half a year ago.

since then the game has fleshed out a lot better, things are getting fixed and they really have gone the extra mile to make it a better game. give it a chance. if anyone remembers DAoC in early beta, it was ass...it eventually fleshed out too. the release was a little shakey and there were still things to be fixed but the game came out well for the audience it was targeted towards. the same is what i expect from SB, a great came for people who prefer larger guilds and that sense of community while stilll enjoying pvp.

[NolwenSolRo]

Mesk : not really

And no... CD's are not being produced...

The game seems to be coming along well though

we'll see if they can make the release date or not...

Yes I have and am playing shadowbane beta, and the PvP system beats the hell out of DAoC ;p

[Jaytan]

If you dont like PvP a lot there is absolutely no reason to play shadowbane.

[Vendal]

I waited for like 2.5 years to get in the shadowbane beta. I was thinking that the game would be the messiah of mmorpgs. Few weeks ago I get in to beta and almost shit my self. Sadly, I lost interest in the game after about 2 weeks. I really did want to like shadowbane, but it just felt like it had no 'substance'. I can't really put my finger on what turned me off. It's probally a combination of the point and click moving, the fact that there is no depth to the world(no lore, no quests, boring landscapes, feels very bare), graphics are lacking. It bascially feels like a game that should have come out like 3 years ago. It just didn't have the 'magic' that I'm used to when I start playing a mmorpg. The whole guild/city/nation system is nice, but it looks like all it comes down to is endless farming of gold to build up your city. The pvp is a little bit more stratigic then other games, but the whole movement and camera system is awkward. Some people will like it, people will play it, but a lot of people are going to be turned off after getting used to playing games like EQ. Shadowbane doesn't feel 'solid' at all, lag has a huge impact on the game. If you lag or the server lags, it makes it unplayable. Even if their retail servers are amazing, the game isnt 'solid' like EQ is, spells can take variable times to cast depending on lag, unlike EQ which has it's spell timer bar. It's even worse then trying to pvp in UO with a 28.8 modem. Lag issues aside, assuming they can fix all that by retail(which btw, shadowbane WILL be released on march 25th) it still seems to be lacking. I had such high hopes for it too...

[Yanny]

So it has a UO style movement system?

Is lag really that bad of a factor?

[Ravensign]

But considering exactly how hard daoc flopped, I doubt they're extremely worried

I am not a DAoC apologist. I think its boring as a dog's ass and has some big faults. DAoC's success and EQ's aren't necessarily completely intertwined.

Mythic is making a profit, therefore its not a "flop". It is an indication that this is not a total zero sum game. The goal of any company with their product is to make a profit, and return that to shareholders, blah, blah, blah

There can be more than one MMORPG.

It didn't destroy EQ (I don't think that's the goal, the goal is $$$), but DAoC is doing fine, despite, as I said before, being so boring it makes my DNA hurt.

[Apokk Berzerk]

If I remember correctly, people were saying DAoC's PVP system was the best thing since sliced bread, then it turned out to be crap. Now people say the same thing about Shadowbane, I think a 'let's wait and see' attitude will be more appropriate this time around.

Shadowbane has more of a chance of failure than a success at this point, It's gotta be pretty damn earth shattering for EQ players to leave in masses.

The only thing guaranteed to hurt EQ server populations is EQ2.

-pok