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Old 02-13-2003, 12:34 AM   #61 (permalink)
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Overpowered? Yes, but only cause dying in PoP means nothing.

Overpowered period. *yawn* I only have a 64k hp tank here that does almost 1kdps but thats not overpowered. Oh, my, god your head is shoved so far up your ass. PoP didn't let enchanters rez themselves you moron, dying has never meant anything to people who aren't such greedy shits they'd never group with a cleric, hell even anti-social 'tards who two-box and can type /camp on their cleric alt before going at it have had no problem with death since day 1. It's the spell itself that is overpowered, and obscenely so, if you're going to try and make some lie to try and deflect SOE from nerfing your grotesquely unbalanced spell at least put some effort into it and make it semi-believable to people who are at least room temperature IQ.
Agree. Anyone who says CoD isn't overpowered is either a chanter or a moron.
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Old 02-13-2003, 12:35 AM   #62 (permalink)
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i don't know much about things from the past since i haven't played long
but the hardest mob solo'd before entering this thread was a sk soloing lodi

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Old 02-13-2003, 01:02 AM   #63 (permalink)
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i don't know much about things from the past since i haven't played long
but the hardest mob solo'd before entering this thread was a sk soloing lodi

http://www.hossguild.com/new/Index.php?SpecifyPost=24
eh, looks like a shaman to me.

shaman have been soloing lodi since velious came out anyways.
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Old 02-13-2003, 02:21 AM   #64 (permalink)
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I used charm to solo ever since I started playing EQ. Its only a big deal now because other people can't solo as easily? Let me guess, you're a melee who spent their entire time in Fungus Grove when SoL came out...

I suppose a quad attacking 220 hitting Dire Charmed pet in the Kael Arena wasn't overpowered? This shit has been around forever and people only make a big deal about it now cause melee can't solo.


"I only have a 64k hp tank here that does almost 1kdps but thats not overpowered. "

Yeah, charmed pets have about a 4th of that amount of HP and usually around 200dps, except in PoTactics where you can make pets quad attack with weapons. You're a fucking noob and doesn't know shit about this game. Get off the bandwagon and think for yourself gimp.
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Old 02-13-2003, 02:41 AM   #65 (permalink)
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I'm a shaman.

Before PoP came out I soloed stomples in PoM (triples for 355, 32k hp) and karkona in WW (leftmost tov scar dragon. tough bitch).

After PoP, I soloed some of the taskmasters in ssra basement. Every nest and tov canyon dragon (except ionat and entariz b/c of silence and 400 lure ae, respectively), and half of the wanderers, are now my bitches.

Looking for new challenges.
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Old 02-13-2003, 08:10 AM   #66 (permalink)
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I though I read somewhere that a shaman solo'd Rumblecrush, pre PoP. Pet melee, stack a bunch of DoTs, canni alot, etc. Even though RC rampages, don't think it would be that tough since he's slowable.
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Old 02-13-2003, 08:33 AM   #67 (permalink)
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Overpower:
To affect so strongly as to make helpless or ineffective; overwhelm

Actually that definition seems to pretty nicely fit CoD at the moment.

Chanters arent by any chance biased on this point do you think?

Dont get me wrong, if I had a power like that I'd guard it jealously too, but most objective people agree that a charmed pet that has a duration more an a few moments shouldnt make a single person capable of accomplishing things even small raids might struggle to accomplish otherwise.

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Old 02-13-2003, 08:43 AM   #68 (permalink)
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I though I read somewhere that a shaman solo'd Rumblecrush, pre PoP. Pet melee, stack a bunch of DoTs, canni alot, etc. Even though RC rampages, don't think it would be that tough since he's slowable.
I doubt it, especially since you say it was pre-PoP and therefore limited to level 60. Pulling RC would be the first big problem for the shaman, and the second problem is the fact that RC has 200k + HP or so. Even with a shaman's exceptional mana-regen abilities, there's no way we could keep up significant DPS on him. As for the pet melee, no way in hell...even when turgur'ed RC still pumps out a couple hundred DPS.

Rumblecrush is basically Luclin's version of Derakor the Vindicator - he's one groupable but not soloable. Yet
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Old 02-13-2003, 08:43 AM   #69 (permalink)
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please fight against the urge of turning this into another CoD overpowered or not thread :-)
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Old 02-13-2003, 11:11 AM   #70 (permalink)
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If it does'nt summon, I really can't consider it a great acheivment but with that being said, I solo'd a Greater Flame Lord in PoFire. Level 67, doesnt summon and rootable. Hits like a sledge, I had 6514 hit points and several times he almost killed me due to the stupid interrupt bug. I had to use Ulthor and epic because at the time i hadn't gotten my copy of Blood of Saryrn. Due to that, it took a great deal of time, slow wore off twice but I did kill it and received 15% AA. Like I said though, its rootable and does not summon so it really isnt that big of a deal. But I will say, had slow or root been resisted I would have died on the pull so in a way its pretty tough.
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Old 02-13-2003, 12:40 PM   #71 (permalink)
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I though I read somewhere that a shaman solo'd Rumblecrush, pre PoP. Pet melee, stack a bunch of DoTs, canni alot, etc. Even though RC rampages, don't think it would be that tough since he's slowable.
When a shaman solos a summoning mob, there are two ways to do it:

1) Burn it down with dots and nukes before it kills you. To do this, the mob has to have relatively low HP, and you need to have good gear, because you will need lots of HP and mana. When I solo yeldema, this is how I do it. I kill the gimp in like 4 minutes.

2) Make torpor your number 1 priority. Keep yourself torpor'd at all times, and use your excess mana to deal damage. On a mob who DPS can be handled with torpor alone, we can kill it, no matter how many HP it has. This is because in the time it takes torpor to run its course, we regen that mana and some extra. So, as long as we can heal ourselves with torpor alone (i.e. we never have to blast heal ourselves) we can kill it.

You cannot kill rumblecrush with the first method. He hits too hard and has entirely too many HP. It's just not possible.

As for method 2.... if you had all the defensive AA's, FT15, 4500 unbuffed HP, and 1500AC (i.e. you are ridiculously uber), then it might be possible. I would love to see it done. To date, though, no shaman has soloed RC.
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Old 02-13-2003, 01:11 PM   #72 (permalink)
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"Overpower:
To affect so strongly as to make helpless or ineffective; overwhelm

Actually that definition seems to pretty nicely fit CoD at the moment."

it does?

The only named mobs charm let you solo are none I can think of. You need atleast 1-2 other people to take down some of the smaller named mobs such as random pop named in PoFire, PoStorms, BoT and thats about it. These same mobs can be killed with 4-5 people regularily, whats the big deal? These mobs can't be soloed because their DPS can kill the pet before he gets past 70% health so you need characters that can chain CH your pet, and even then it can not be enough healing. Even then, if its just 1 enc and a healer, if your pet breaks, you're fucked and you die.

I think the toughest thing I killed with a cleric partner was Overseer in PoTactics. Used a hasted pet with 2 proc weapons and cleric chain healing it. Got lucky with crit CHs for 17500 and used DA/DB to tank once he got to 50%. Thing is though, we didn't beat him the first, or second or third or forth time we fought him. We died alot, pet broke before he died, couldn't heal him most of the time, too close and got rampaged, etc.

I dunno where I'm going with this, but the spell isn't game inbalencing. Sure there is great power with it, but also alot of luck invloved doing with powerful mobs. I can solo with charm and get XP faster then a group of 6 can, but its not much faster then a wizard or druid quad kiting with mana regen buffs.
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Old 02-13-2003, 01:47 PM   #73 (permalink)
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ROFL

you're your own worst witness Qualar. I suggest you sit down and shut up before someone reads your post stating you can take down the overseer with one other person using a charmed pet when I've seen full groups of skilled players die to the same mob, repeatedly.

As for BoT, I've personaly witnessed chanters take down the first level named solo. Maybe they're hasting their pet and slowing the mob.. hell if I know, but I've seen the mob dead on the floor.

Again, more power to you, but if you can state with a straight face that killing a mob due to charm becomes a 1 or 2 person encounter, when otherwise its a full group encounter, isnt overpowered.. you need to take up poker.

Defend the spell man, I would too, but the nerf bat commeth.

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Old 02-13-2003, 02:11 PM   #74 (permalink)
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Are we all forgetting about the time

I soloed Lord Ragefire in Dragon form?
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Old 02-13-2003, 02:16 PM   #75 (permalink)
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i did that back in the day with the charm bug, thanks.
It wasn't a bug, it was a pure exploit.
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