Rant: Euroguilds and cockblocking

[Samus Aran]

Two things...

1) Nikkohung, go hang yourself, you worthless ass flamingo.

2) If a guild is mostly Australian/New Zealand people... it's not a fucking Euroguild!

[Nikkohung You]

nah but i dont exactly think we should get a national holiday because some one believed in something and "had a dream" that a lot of other people shared and they fought for it also...

[ericEQ]

Not being able to kill any significant mobs because they simply aren't up isnt a "small tiny sacrifice". Fuck man, thats what this game is about. Killing big mobs, progressing.

I know people who have quit because all that was left was exp grinding, all the Eastern Hemisphere guilds had EVERYTHING perma-killed (Karana seems to be French/Jap central)... what good is grinding out exp if you're only flagged for Tier2 zones?! Now finally after months of PoP being out, American guilds are getting chances at killing this stuff--Why? Because those Eastern World guilds are so fucking far ahead of us now that they dont have time to perma kill Aerin`Dar. While they're fucking around in Solusek Ro's Tower and getting ready for elemental planes, the rest of us are stuck behind doing shit like HoHA trials. It fucking sucks.

Please don't give us that shit about how it's "fair" because we don't have time to stay home from work and fight against your primetime. Something needs to be done, or more and more people are just gonna keep quitting because they get nothing out of this game anymore.

Also, my country could kick your country's ass.

[Tatiana]

The time advantage is a lame excuse for shitty guilds.

I will take one exemple.

Last wednseday patch ended at 11 PM euro time. Japaneses and euroguilds killed nothing that day, and american guilds could kill all they were ABLE to kill.

What happened? On karana the only mob killed by all theses "so powerfull but cockblocked" US guilds was Emperor in SSRA and ZERO flag mob. The day after all mobs were up and were killed by the euros/asians guilds.

Instead of whining, just grow up and go kill the mobs......

[Qutsemnie]

in all fairness australian and new z guilds are properly refered to as
ASIAN GUILDS

[Snootay]

So this guy plays on Karana?

[Lorrac]

You know, I have *never* seen an american guild ignore VT on server up to go instead kill emperor to cockblock its rival guilds.

Errr.... wait, many american guilds been cockblocking as well.

So, what's your point? that being cockblocked sucks but cocblocking others is cool? Welcome to the wonderful word of hypocrits!

[Kildace]

Atm there is no US high end competition on Karana, not because euros perma kill anything but because there are no high end US guilds, and you know what bitching and moaning on FoH message boards won't change this, go back to failing Rydda Dar or something.


Back on topic. Bertox and Rallos are delayed and are 3 days, the cockblocking will stop, and you'll get through because they'll soon have too much to do in the elemental planes to be able to keep up with killing those and loosing 1 raid night every 3 days.
*shrugs* We've been cockblocked before, cockblocking is, like races, a part of EQ, deal with it.

[Snootay]

Kildace is French. His guild surrenders to Rallos all the time.

[Lysiander Schattenwald]

The usuall patch ends at about 19:00 to 21:00 Euro time. Depending on your timezone and the size of the patch. This leaves 3 to 5 hours of playtime for the average employed player. (Playing till midnight, getting 6 hours of sleep before work.)

This is prime time for Euro players. Work is off. People want to play.

With the random spawntimers, let's say mobs pop at an average of 1 to 5 hours after patch. So, looking at the times, the only mobs that are actually available to kill after a patch, the ones that pop after server up are an obvious choice. Not to block other Guilds (allthough I admit some Guilds probably do it for that reason.) but to raid anything *at all*.

In most cases of the random spawns, the Mobs will not have spawned before the playtime of the usuall Euro player is out, but will have spawned during US prime time. What timezone has an actuall disadvantage here?

Thanks god I play on an Euro server and don't have to listen to ignorant whiners that can't look at the actuall picture but only their loss.

[Furor Planedefiler]

Two thumbs way up!

Fifteen extra points for the Australia/New Zealand Euro reference. Excellent work.

[userr0101]

Originally posted by Haradaf - Inno
Firstly, If the majority of the "Euro guild" are from NZ/Aus, then it is a NZ/Aus guild, no?
And second, why should you Americans get everything your way? why should the mobs have to spawn when you want them to?
why cant you get your lazy fat arse out of bed earlier and get to RZ before the competition?
You already have patches in the middle of the night so it doesnt get in the way of your play time, you already have tech support on phones, you get the expansions before any non-US area. So give up RZ and go kill something else.

Just because you cant have everything doesnt mean you have nothing, now go take your ball home!

are you fucking retarded? be glad everquest is even available in your shitty little town in europe you faggot. by the way he was pushing for RANDOM spawn times in his post. your a fucking idiot

[Kildace]

by the way he was pushing for RANDOM spawn times in his post

Every spawn on PoP is randomized ...

[Ainyan duck]

OMG, lets bring all the BB shit to FoH boards ... WTF, Rickshaw please.. there is a bb board for this stuff. but as ya want to talk about RZ, we tried this event for 2 weeks, we died alot, we spent 8+ hours a day there, that leaves 16 hours for you to have also tested it, you had the flags, but insted you chose to zone in when we were doing it, ( the bug that you said did not exsist, that VI said was not there, and we were FOS, now you say its there, yet your guild still zones in in wave 1..), we have very few left to flag now, we want the sword for a our war ( not one drop yet ), but please dont preach about cocknoobing, i remember Emp. and sleeps ohh and a few others, My god even in this expanshion the 2 US guilds were blowing trials to stop us, it seems to have suited you when you had it all now the tables have turned you resort to comeing to other guilds boards for that matter other servers boards .... RICKSHAW pleaseeeee


On the this is a US game made for US peeps ...
Just like to know, as im a NZer , living in the UK , working on games, in the past worked for US companys, canadan. Oz, and Euro , and guess what, i would say maybe 15- 20% of all the people who work in the industry are US (and that would be a over estamit), also the US market comes in 2nd to the euro market for games sales and production.

If you look at all the top 10 games of the last few years most are jap / euro made. When VI made this game they might have wanted to do the game for the US market, ( i very much dought it as thats not good biz sence), but when sony brought them beleave me sony want the world not just the US . they started it there yes, but more as a test bed i would say.

thats me rant , btw sorry for the punuation / spelling im a dislecsic NZ sheep shager , so flame me now

[shad]

If anything the patch times work against the australians. Usually around 9pm patch happens, then it finishes anywhere between midnight and 3am. Then the US guilds kill everything. By the time we log in after work (18 - 21 hours since servers came up). Everything is dead.