Ogre frontal stun immunity

[Blazar]

In this expansion, do the non-ogre warriors feel crippled in any way due to getting stunned?

I remember this being a heated discussion sometime last year.

[St BB]

Yes, I can't stand it. In the first few seconds of gaining aggro on a mob getting stunned just as someone else does something to cause aggro (slow tash etc.) usually means the mob is gonna chase that person down. I don't have any points in Stalwart Endurance yet so I don't know how big a diff it makes. However like Furor said over a year ago concerning level 60 WARLORDS having the frontal stun immunity, well how about level 65 OVERLORDS??

There is ZERO downside to any warrior race now except the frontal stun. Stats can be made up for, faction means JACK SHIT now with luclin and PoP so there is a significant advantage to being an ogre if you decide to start anew. And it's bullshit. I love that Stalwart Endurance reduces stuns from all sides, the best tweak I can think of is to make it so that 3 points in it makes you immune to stuns in the front and reduces other stuns.

[Blazar]

and the other ogre problem of being a large race... are there easily attainable shrink or illusion items now?

[Iannis]

i thought behemoth said in a previous thread now there is an AA ability that grants invulnerability to frontal stun, like an ogre.

as for beign a fatty, I dunno. back when I played every big warrior had a cobalt bracer. if not to worn than kept in a pack to clicky when needed. cost of shrink potions would vary server to server I imagine.

[Grimmlokk]

Yes. Gnomes can tinker a shrinking device, potions are pretty cheap, and after 45 you can use a Cobalt Bracer.

[Blazar]

if i recall, wasn't cobolt bracer one of the rarest fuckin cobolt parts in terms of drop rate?

[findar]

its frmo kunark.... offer enough u can get one... i wouldnt expect more then 15k

[Uber Uberest ~Rathe]

Ya it was, but by now anyone can pick one up in the bazaar. I believe the bracer was a random of reets/juggs in seb, but that might of been the helm.

[Damacis]

Cobalt bracer drops off of Shrooms, the helmet of Reets. Considering no one hardly does Seb anymore they are increasing in rarity and price, just like the Fungi.

But, in any event, there is an AA that grants 70% immunity from *all* sides now, so this is really a non-issue.

[St BB]

Yes cobalt bracers are rare as hell. Anizok's minimizing device is cheap and plentiful however. It fits in the ammo slot, can be recharged and costs about 150pp per 20 charges. Price of minimizer can vary. I got mine for 500pp back when they were not rechargable.

Being large is not a disadvantage anymore. Like I said, any disadvantage any race has can be made up for with items or AA. Iksar and Troll regen can be made up for, barbarians have good faction but are nightblind which is not a big deal. Ogres are frontal stun IMMUNE. That can not be made up for.

Now this is what the AA ability description says for Stalwart Endurance.

Stalwart Endurance

This ability grants a chance to endure what would otherwise be a stunning blow, from any angle, without being stunned. You may train in the ranks of this ability at or after levels 61, 63, and 65.

It does not say immunity to frontal stuns. Now, it is vague so it may give that benefit. Furor, Behemoth or some other warrior with all 12 points in it can verify that. But Ogres get the frontal stun immuntiy for free, and get the full benefit of the Stalwart Endurance AA. With no real downside to being an ogre anymore I reiterate that there is no real gameplay reason to be any race other than an Ogre to be a warrior.

[OG Dephton]

project illusion: ogre takes care of it too, as far as i know.

illusion troll grants regen, and a slam/bash button. I'm not a warrior so i havent done the test, but have been told by enchanters and warriors in our guild that this is the case.

[Qalar-Drinal]

right............................................

[Kilaara]

I was stunned several time when using Illusion Ogre and had also several messages of avoiding the stunning blow in that time with SE2.

[Frelance]

Shrinks are also available via VT bracer, and human illusion hat, and woodelf illlusion hat, and skele illusion neck.

[Aldous]

i use shroom potions, 10 charges, rechargeable for about 6pp/10charges (ie 6gp each)

i have like 7 of em and i bought most of them in the bazaar for about 150pp