Ogre frontal stun immunity - Page 2

Pops · 01-16-2003, 08:55 AM

The fact that Ogres had to put in more effort to level should be enough reason to let them have this advantage. Never mind the fact that the difference is slimed down even more with an AA skill allows you to avoid stuns. So if we all agree stats dont matter, what now do Ogres have as an advantage over other races? They get stunned 1 maybe 2 times less durring a long fight over other races. Even though they did level slower.

Look at Troll and Iksar, they had exp penalties and they still have racial advantages that matter. With the AC cap being shown higher then it was before Iksars might even make the best warriors.

So quit bitching, if anyone has a right to complain its Ogres. They put in more effort and now have almost nothing to show for it other then being butt ugly.

oharas · 01-16-2003, 09:00 AM

I havent got the link but steelwarrior did tests on this and its only a chance to resist the stun never an immunity so a none ogre gets a chance to resist stuns from any direction including front.

Ogres without the aa get immunity to stun all the time from the front

Ogres with the aa get immunity to stun all the time from the front and an equal chance based on aa skill to avoid other directions.

Tarana · 01-16-2003, 09:44 AM

STOP YOUR FUCKING CRYING!

Everyone had the same chance to get frontal stun immunity. Don't come crying to me because you "chose" to play a race other than ogre.

Momerath · 01-16-2003, 10:00 AM

There are two reasons to play an ogre warrior, and only one good one:

1) You like being an ogre, you like being dumb, fat, ugly, and huggable, you have fun playing an ogre character. This is a damn good reason to play an ogre.

2) You chose an ogre because of starting stats, frontal stun immunity, and slam. You play a game of numbers and efficiency and wouldn't consider playing a character that wasn't the 'best' possible race/class combination. You're no fun.

Then again, it's only an opinion, and everyone did have the same opportunity as everyone else to choose any race/class they wanted, so whining about it is kinda silly, even sillier to whine about others being able to spend experience to gain something that you may have gotten at character creation,.

Szlia · 01-16-2003, 10:07 AM

the whole concept of experience penalty to counterbalance advantages is absurd when there is a maximum level that everyone will reach sooner or later.

That's a just a badly digested D&D inheritance.

Furor Planedefiler · 01-16-2003, 01:44 PM

I eat Ogres for breakfast.

No, literally. They are really quite tasty. My secret is that I only use the finest Rump Roast (ASS MEAT) with a little of the Tar Tar sauce. Drink with a fine White Wine or Vodka.

Enjoy!

Drutt · 01-16-2003, 03:50 PM

You really miss Kartak don´t you?

CardinalFang · 01-17-2003, 01:17 PM

... dun begrudge us our lil chunk of pie.. sure frontal stun immune is great... but we are BIG ... ever see an Ogre loose DE illusion while shopping in Thurg?

ohhh the pain......

Patricio · 01-17-2003, 01:32 PM

Furor, once upon a time I really respected you, but ogre with white wine should be deemed a crime against (culinary) humanity. Ogre is definitely a red wine dish.

/sigh.

Blazar · 01-17-2003, 02:30 PM

first of all, leveling an ogre warrior is not significantly harder than leveling any other race... why do people keep harping on this.

2. The size disadvantage of the ogre is really a moot point with the shrink items being readily available now.

3. the faction problems with ogre class... again minuscule. Faction is not an issue anymore.

4. Ogres already receive warrior class stat bonuses for being so big and having poor faction.

Basically there is no reason why all warriors at lvl 65 should not have frontal stun immunity.

The end.

Sir Yakk · 01-17-2003, 03:03 PM

Wierd idea:

Ogres have a frontal stun immunity over a wide arc.

What about giving other warriors a not as wide arc of frontal stun immunity? So, they have to be directly facing the mob, as opposed to facing in the general direction.

Gigglesworth · 01-18-2003, 01:20 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Furor Planedefiler
Rump Roast (ASS MEAT) with a little of the Tar Tar sauce.
Enjoy!

everyone should know tar tar sauce is for fish. Do you not watch the simpsons?

Iannis · 01-18-2003, 02:06 AM

oops. nevermind, i was thinking of something else. damn delete button that never works....grandbean is an uberquick poster. I BOW TO HE WHO CAUGHT ME BEFORE EDIT!

Samus Aran · 01-18-2003, 02:08 AM

Kunark armor either came out of Old Sebilis or Karnor's Castle.

Snootay · 01-18-2003, 04:10 AM

Or Charsis.

01-16-2003, 08:55 AM	#16 (permalink)
Pops Registered User Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 23 -1 Internets	BS The fact that Ogres had to put in more effort to level should be enough reason to let them have this advantage. Never mind the fact that the difference is slimed down even more with an AA skill allows you to avoid stuns. So if we all agree stats dont matter, what now do Ogres have as an advantage over other races? They get stunned 1 maybe 2 times less durring a long fight over other races. Even though they did level slower. Look at Troll and Iksar, they had exp penalties and they still have racial advantages that matter. With the AC cap being shown higher then it was before Iksars might even make the best warriors. So quit bitching, if anyone has a right to complain its Ogres. They put in more effort and now have almost nothing to show for it other then being butt ugly. __________________ I want Eager!

01-16-2003, 09:44 AM	#18 (permalink)
Tarana so fat it hurts... Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 7 -1 Internets	STOP YOUR FUCKING CRYING! Everyone had the same chance to get frontal stun immunity. Don't come crying to me because you "chose" to play a race other than ogre. __________________ Veteran Daku Krugnak Ogre Overlord Soldiers of Light

01-16-2003, 10:00 AM	#19 (permalink)
Momerath Registered User Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 14 +0 Internets	There are two reasons to play an ogre warrior, and only one good one: 1) You like being an ogre, you like being dumb, fat, ugly, and huggable, you have fun playing an ogre character. This is a damn good reason to play an ogre. 2) You chose an ogre because of starting stats, frontal stun immunity, and slam. You play a game of numbers and efficiency and wouldn't consider playing a character that wasn't the 'best' possible race/class combination. You're no fun. Then again, it's only an opinion, and everyone did have the same opportunity as everyone else to choose any race/class they wanted, so whining about it is kinda silly, even sillier to whine about others being able to spend experience to gain something that you may have gotten at character creation,. Last edited by Momerath; 01-16-2003 at 10:02 AM..

01-16-2003, 10:07 AM	#20 (permalink)
Szlia Conquest Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Switzerland Posts: 5,644 +25 Internets	the whole concept of experience penalty to counterbalance advantages is absurd when there is a maximum level that everyone will reach sooner or later. That's a just a badly digested D&D inheritance. __________________ -retrosabotage-

01-16-2003, 01:44 PM	#21 (permalink)
Furor Planedefiler A Relic Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 1,229 +28 Internets	Ogres? I eat Ogres for breakfast. No, literally. They are really quite tasty. My secret is that I only use the finest Rump Roast (ASS MEAT) with a little of the Tar Tar sauce. Drink with a fine White Wine or Vodka. Enjoy!

01-16-2003, 09:00 AM	#17 (permalink)
oharas Registered User Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 2 +0 Internets	I havent got the link but steelwarrior did tests on this and its only a chance to resist the stun never an immunity so a none ogre gets a chance to resist stuns from any direction including front. Ogres without the aa get immunity to stun all the time from the front Ogres with the aa get immunity to stun all the time from the front and an equal chance based on aa skill to avoid other directions.

01-16-2003, 03:50 PM	#22 (permalink)
Drutt Registered User Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 25 -1 Internets	You really miss Kartak don´t you?

01-17-2003, 01:17 PM	#23 (permalink)
CardinalFang Registered User Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 4 +0 Internets	Ogr are TEH WIN ... dun begrudge us our lil chunk of pie.. sure frontal stun immune is great... but we are BIG ... ever see an Ogre loose DE illusion while shopping in Thurg? ohhh the pain...... __________________ Cardinal Fang, Dru - Ro Fatty Overlord of Hoss Cardinal Fang's Gear plus Team Cardinal Mona le Roux Roux

01-17-2003, 01:32 PM	#24 (permalink)
Patricio Registered User Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 24 -1 Internets	Furor, once upon a time I really respected you, but ogre with white wine should be deemed a crime against (culinary) humanity. Ogre is definitely a red wine dish. /sigh.

01-17-2003, 02:30 PM	#25 (permalink)
Blazar Fires of Heaven Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 78 -2 Internets	first of all, leveling an ogre warrior is not significantly harder than leveling any other race... why do people keep harping on this. 2. The size disadvantage of the ogre is really a moot point with the shrink items being readily available now. 3. the faction problems with ogre class... again minuscule. Faction is not an issue anymore. 4. Ogres already receive warrior class stat bonuses for being so big and having poor faction. Basically there is no reason why all warriors at lvl 65 should not have frontal stun immunity. The end. __________________ Blazar FoH!

01-17-2003, 03:03 PM	#26 (permalink)
Sir Yakk Registered User Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 22 -1 Internets	Wierd idea: Ogres have a frontal stun immunity over a wide arc. What about giving other warriors a not as wide arc of frontal stun immunity? So, they have to be directly facing the mob, as opposed to facing in the general direction.

01-18-2003, 02:06 AM	#28 (permalink)
Iannis Registered User Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Butt Hugging Moose Jockey Posts: 4,968 -1 Internets	oops. nevermind, i was thinking of something else. damn delete button that never works....grandbean is an uberquick poster. I BOW TO HE WHO CAUGHT ME BEFORE EDIT! Last edited by Iannis; 01-18-2003 at 02:09 AM..

01-18-2003, 02:08 AM	#29 (permalink)
Samus Aran Sons of the Storm Heal Bitch Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 771 -7 Internets	Kunark armor either came out of Old Sebilis or Karnor's Castle.

01-18-2003, 04:10 AM	#30 (permalink)
Snootay Registered User Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 189 +0 Internets	Or Charsis.

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