Agoraphobia - Page 7

Zarseem Nasaar · 03-10-2003, 05:56 PM

Good, sheep. Now you're learning. Show some backbone. Feel the animosity.

Yes, folks, friends, and neighbors. Even pathetic, spineless, ball-less peons can be taught.

And now that you have learned to drool, ala Pavlov's dogs, it's time to learn a new trick, little scimian.

Concerned Psychologist · 03-10-2003, 06:03 PM

You're lost, I give up. Good luck.

Zarseem Nasaar · 03-10-2003, 06:13 PM

Come, now. You were doing good for one post. Show some more anger. You were almost there. Anger, and hate, are good for the spirit, if not so hot for the blood pressure.

Anyway.

Now that I have de-railed what should have been a decent thread...

I don't know anyone with bonified agoraphobia. Most of us, to some degree or another, feel some awkwardness in social engagement, particularly in large or new groups. I don't know anyone who completely freezes when they leave their house, or cannot function in any way with society.

The case in point: a few posts before, someone said that when they left their house, they froze up. Couldn't speak, almost couldn't breathe. The fact that this person is able to type could be considered a minor milestone with such a neurosis. However, I say take it one step further. Find someone on a message board or in game that you trust and get along with, and that lives near you. Invite them over for a short time to trick your mind into thinking all is well. Gradually sit closer and closer to the door, as they visit more often. The human mind is silly and fragile; it's easy to fool it. Then try talking with them with the door open. Then try sitting right inside the door with the door open, so you can see outside. Then try sitting in the doorstep/doorway/whatever the fuck it's called. Gradually move further and further out. Could take days, weeks, months. Maybe even years. But damn it will make the time go by. You have to fool your mind into not thinking about it, and it helps if you do it with someone else you know ( I do not recommend you try this with someone like, I dunno...the mailman, or a salesman, or a friggin Mormon on a bike who comes knocking on your door asking for you're friggin soul like he's some friggin gameshow host).

Anyway, that's my good deed for the day. Time to eat my Taco Bell, and embalm some more bodies.

WarderX · 03-10-2003, 06:25 PM

Zarseem Nasaar · 03-10-2003, 06:30 PM

You have a sick, twisted fascination with really cheesy martial arts movies. I am surprised the Good Concerned Doctor hasn't attempted to contact you yet.

userr0101 · 03-10-2003, 11:57 PM

Quote:

You are looking at things from just your point of view. You're not weighing my words. You're just floating along, reading the chat, not seeing the horrors of the world. I really want to believe it's because you are so safe and secure in your shiny, pretty false world that your stupidity is based solely on ignorance. However, I have the sneaking suspicion that the reason why you're behaving like sheep is because you're in denial.

After a few personal tragedies of my own, I decided to reflect upon my own life; why I do/say the things I do, etc. This led me into studies of consciousness, the Ego, and my own illusions. Believe it or not, but some sheep DO break through the illusions that society ingraine in their head!

However. I believe concentrating on just the positive as much as possible fosters a more enjoyable life than concentrating on just the negative. For all the examples you gave of ignorant, pathetic and worthless people doing horrible things to one another, there is an equal amount of kind, compassionate people living and enjoying their life, simple as it may be.

This relates directly to the link between your mind and body. If you always concentrate on the negative aspects of life, it will inevitably warp your own way of thinking and responding to the world around you.

Leatherneck · 03-11-2003, 10:43 AM

You guys have been played.

Heh · 03-11-2003, 11:17 AM

The key to happiness, especially socially related, is, in my opinion, to just let go. Much easier said than done, but still. You have to realize that you are just as good as everyone else; no one is a 'better' or 'worse' person than anyone else. Be it looks, intelligence, or whatever... take what you have and run with it. Downplay your weaknesses and focus on your strengths in social situations. chances are, everyone else is too worried about how they look and what categories they fit in to that they won't give a fuck about you. What you see in people day in and day out is MAYBE 10% of who and what they really are. Do you think that every 16 or 17 year old at highschool that drinks alot and tries to act like a badass *really* is the person they try so hard to appear to be? Once you realize that pretty much everyone is the SAME, and that people pretty much only tend to limit themselves (except in obvious cases such as mental/physical disabilities), you will know your place and be happy.

It's funny how much everyone worries about stereotypes and shit, and what group they fit into, because they are nothing more than fabrications and constructs of people's minds: they are projections of what people like to see themselves as. People today, especially in capitalist societies like this one, have pretty much been extensively brainwashed since the day they were born. As cliche as it is, you as a person can not be defined as what clothes you wear, how big your house/paycheck is, how many 'friends' you have, or anything like that. You can not fit into a single little category or niche in life. Your life isn't a fucking sitcom, and neither is anyone elses.

Cedil · 03-11-2003, 12:39 PM

Zarseem, all I'm gonna do is reitirate my statement man.

1 billion to 1 your right big guy.

Think about it.

If it seems more logical that maybe you've just been caught up in negativity rather then you've pulled back a curtain and seen a light nobody else seemed to notice, why don't you re-consider your options.

Lizarde · 03-11-2003, 01:34 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Zarseem Nasaar
I don't view myself as a member of the three groups, or as a member of society. I don't want to lower myself by blending in. I rock the boat because it needs to be done. I say the things I say because they need to be said.

Ah, yes. The raucous outsider who holds up a mirror to a cringing society. The nonconformist fighting a world that he hates.

How utterly . . . cliche.

AngryGerbil · 03-11-2003, 06:42 PM

I thought this thread was gonna be about how outdoor zones suck and we should all play in dungeons.

Carry on...

03-10-2003, 05:56 PM	#91 (permalink)
Zarseem Nasaar Your existence offends me. End it. Immediately. Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 90 -1 Internets	Good, sheep. Now you're learning. Show some backbone. Feel the animosity. Yes, folks, friends, and neighbors. Even pathetic, spineless, ball-less peons can be taught. And now that you have learned to drool, ala Pavlov's dogs, it's time to learn a new trick, little scimian. __________________ Zarseem Nasaar Necromantic Perfection "How can one man bear so much hatred, rage, self-loathing, and spite...and not get buried in his own insanity or corrupted by the very essence of misery he represents?"

03-10-2003, 06:03 PM	#92 (permalink)
Concerned Psychologist -_- Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 265 -1 Internets	You're lost, I give up. Good luck. __________________ I'm so f#$^ing bored

03-10-2003, 06:13 PM	#93 (permalink)
Zarseem Nasaar Your existence offends me. End it. Immediately. Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 90 -1 Internets	Come, now. You were doing good for one post. Show some more anger. You were almost there. Anger, and hate, are good for the spirit, if not so hot for the blood pressure. Anyway. Now that I have de-railed what should have been a decent thread... I don't know anyone with bonified agoraphobia. Most of us, to some degree or another, feel some awkwardness in social engagement, particularly in large or new groups. I don't know anyone who completely freezes when they leave their house, or cannot function in any way with society. The case in point: a few posts before, someone said that when they left their house, they froze up. Couldn't speak, almost couldn't breathe. The fact that this person is able to type could be considered a minor milestone with such a neurosis. However, I say take it one step further. Find someone on a message board or in game that you trust and get along with, and that lives near you. Invite them over for a short time to trick your mind into thinking all is well. Gradually sit closer and closer to the door, as they visit more often. The human mind is silly and fragile; it's easy to fool it. Then try talking with them with the door open. Then try sitting right inside the door with the door open, so you can see outside. Then try sitting in the doorstep/doorway/whatever the fuck it's called. Gradually move further and further out. Could take days, weeks, months. Maybe even years. But damn it will make the time go by. You have to fool your mind into not thinking about it, and it helps if you do it with someone else you know ( I do not recommend you try this with someone like, I dunno...the mailman, or a salesman, or a friggin Mormon on a bike who comes knocking on your door asking for you're friggin soul like he's some friggin gameshow host). Anyway, that's my good deed for the day. Time to eat my Taco Bell, and embalm some more bodies. __________________ Zarseem Nasaar Necromantic Perfection "How can one man bear so much hatred, rage, self-loathing, and spite...and not get buried in his own insanity or corrupted by the very essence of misery he represents?"

03-10-2003, 06:25 PM	#94 (permalink)
WarderX Registered User Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Atlanta, Georgia Posts: 1,593 +1 Internets	omg! Attached Images

03-10-2003, 06:30 PM	#95 (permalink)
Zarseem Nasaar Your existence offends me. End it. Immediately. Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 90 -1 Internets	You have a sick, twisted fascination with really cheesy martial arts movies. I am surprised the Good Concerned Doctor hasn't attempted to contact you yet. __________________ Zarseem Nasaar Necromantic Perfection "How can one man bear so much hatred, rage, self-loathing, and spite...and not get buried in his own insanity or corrupted by the very essence of misery he represents?"

03-11-2003, 10:43 AM	#97 (permalink)
Leatherneck Registered User Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 57 -1 Internets	You guys have been played.

03-11-2003, 11:17 AM	#98 (permalink)
Heh Banned Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 414 +0 Internets	The key to happiness, especially socially related, is, in my opinion, to just let go. Much easier said than done, but still. You have to realize that you are just as good as everyone else; no one is a 'better' or 'worse' person than anyone else. Be it looks, intelligence, or whatever... take what you have and run with it. Downplay your weaknesses and focus on your strengths in social situations. chances are, everyone else is too worried about how they look and what categories they fit in to that they won't give a fuck about you. What you see in people day in and day out is MAYBE 10% of who and what they really are. Do you think that every 16 or 17 year old at highschool that drinks alot and tries to act like a badass really is the person they try so hard to appear to be? Once you realize that pretty much everyone is the SAME, and that people pretty much only tend to limit themselves (except in obvious cases such as mental/physical disabilities), you will know your place and be happy. It's funny how much everyone worries about stereotypes and shit, and what group they fit into, because they are nothing more than fabrications and constructs of people's minds: they are projections of what people like to see themselves as. People today, especially in capitalist societies like this one, have pretty much been extensively brainwashed since the day they were born. As cliche as it is, you as a person can not be defined as what clothes you wear, how big your house/paycheck is, how many 'friends' you have, or anything like that. You can not fit into a single little category or niche in life. Your life isn't a fucking sitcom, and neither is anyone elses. Last edited by Heh : 03-11-2003 at 11:21 AM.

03-11-2003, 12:39 PM	#99 (permalink)
Cedil Registered User Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 388 -1 Internets	Zarseem, all I'm gonna do is reitirate my statement man. 1 billion to 1 your right big guy. Think about it. If it seems more logical that maybe you've just been caught up in negativity rather then you've pulled back a curtain and seen a light nobody else seemed to notice, why don't you re-consider your options. Last edited by Cedil : 03-11-2003 at 12:52 PM.

03-11-2003, 06:42 PM	#101 (permalink)
AngryGerbil zero signal Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: St. Louis, MO Posts: 3,555	I thought this thread was gonna be about how outdoor zones suck and we should all play in dungeons. Carry on... __________________ Doesn't speak the language. Holds no currency.

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