Sheesh

Algol Devilstar · 01-15-2003, 08:02 PM

Not sure if someone fished this out, was told it was in PoT. Oh and my PS skills arent so leet when I dont have a lot of time.

WarderX · 01-15-2003, 08:07 PM

Thats only 137 hp per opposed to DW'ing. /shrug. I could think up a beter combo

Uber Uberest ~Rathe · 01-15-2003, 08:13 PM

That is pretty insane, would be sick if they slapped pal and sk on top of that.

Sean · 01-15-2003, 08:21 PM

Who cares about the hit points, that thing is so far above every other dual-weild combo known's DPS in existance it doesn't matter.

Course, most 2handers are pretty sick now. Even Emp sword beats every single DW combo I could get so far's DPS heh...

Algol Devilstar · 01-15-2003, 09:41 PM

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Originally posted by WarderX
Thats only 137 hp per opposed to DW'ing. /shrug. I could think up a beter combo

Do you mean you could come up with a better weapon link, or you could come up with a better DW combo? Hitpoints it will be under some of the uberest 1 handers available now, but DPS? Show me a DW combo that would beat it.

Southern · 01-15-2003, 10:42 PM

any monk that wouldnt use that is hepped up on goof balls

southern

Firamas · 01-15-2003, 10:46 PM

as this is likely a PoTime drop, i think it would be prudent to wait until some actual loot from there is found to compare it to before the proverbial panties start getting all bunched up.

Cybsled · 01-15-2003, 11:01 PM

Heh there is no reason what so ever to bitch about the quality of that weapon ;p

I would give up DW in the blink of an eye if that was the replacement.

Bear · 01-16-2003, 03:52 AM

the only thing i am wondering is : if more of those weapons are found(i asume its a "hacked" link from some potime loot) and around for all melees , then what point do dmg caster have?
there is no spell on par with this.

Destinae · 01-16-2003, 04:00 AM

uh huh

Jules(Europa) · 01-16-2003, 05:39 AM

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there is no spell on par with this

Description

1: Decrease Hitpoints by 150
2: Stun(0.0 sec/65)

Must really suck to be a caster if they have nothing better than that.

Bear · 01-16-2003, 06:03 AM

i doubt i meant the proc.....

userr0101 · 01-16-2003, 06:32 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Bear
the only thing i am wondering is : if more of those weapons are found(i asume its a "hacked" link from some potime loot) and around for all melees , then what point do dmg caster have?
there is no spell on par with this.

go solo and shut the fuck up

Bear · 01-16-2003, 10:25 AM

see mister userxxx just because i am wondering what dps caster get in line with that doesnt have to mean i am one of them.
oh and what has soloing to do with it?

Velael · 01-16-2003, 11:39 AM

Bear let me clue you in.

As EQ currently stands, caster damage >>> melee damage. Frozboz, myself, and some other wizards set out to prove that wizards didn't "suck" in xp groups, like the myth had it. We logged a ton of fights (raids and xp groups - Frozboz did a ton of work comparing himself to the best melees in the game (FoH)). Guess what we found? Not only were we the #1 damage dealers on raids (often by a 2 or 3 to 1 ratio) we also outdamaged any melees over time in xp groups.

Casters don't need shit to be brought up to melee level, if anything, pure damage dealing melee could us an increase in power to catch us. Wizards with massive focus, max-FT, and all the AA goodies are just insane damage machines, and that's ignoring Mages and Necros who both are immensely powerful in their own right. I'm not calling for a nerf to my chosen class (and one I've played for 3 years now - in about every environment), but I certainly am not crying because monks will get a badass 2h weapon. I have monk friends, that owns for them.

01-15-2003, 08:02 PM	#1 (permalink)
Algol Devilstar Banned Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: The NW Posts: 3,497 +0 Internets	Sheesh Not sure if someone fished this out, was told it was in PoT. Oh and my PS skills arent so leet when I dont have a lot of time. Attached Images

01-15-2003, 08:21 PM	#4 (permalink)
Sean Fires of Heaven Officer Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Washington Posts: 5,193 +17 Internets	Who cares about the hit points, that thing is so far above every other dual-weild combo known's DPS in existance it doesn't matter. Course, most 2handers are pretty sick now. Even Emp sword beats every single DW combo I could get so far's DPS heh... __________________

01-15-2003, 10:46 PM	#7 (permalink)
Firamas Part Time Monk, Part Time Demigod? Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 8 -1 Internets	as this is likely a PoTime drop, i think it would be prudent to wait until some actual loot from there is found to compare it to before the proverbial panties start getting all bunched up. __________________ Sensei Firamas Shadowstrike [Enlightened Dark]

01-15-2003, 11:01 PM	#8 (permalink)
Cybsled Registered User Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 9,439 +16 Internets	Heh there is no reason what so ever to bitch about the quality of that weapon ;p I would give up DW in the blink of an eye if that was the replacement. __________________ Training the citizens of Norrath from 1999-2003!

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01-15-2003, 08:07 PM	#2 (permalink)
WarderX Registered User Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Atlanta, Georgia Posts: 1,593 +1 Internets	Thats only 137 hp per opposed to DW'ing. /shrug. I could think up a beter combo

01-15-2003, 08:13 PM	#3 (permalink)
Uber Uberest ~Rathe Banned Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Boston Posts: 1,710 +0 Internets	That is pretty insane, would be sick if they slapped pal and sk on top of that.

01-15-2003, 10:42 PM	#6 (permalink)
Southern Registered User Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 82 -1 Internets	any monk that wouldnt use that is hepped up on goof balls southern

01-16-2003, 03:52 AM	#9 (permalink)
Bear Registered User Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 51 -1 Internets	the only thing i am wondering is : if more of those weapons are found(i asume its a "hacked" link from some potime loot) and around for all melees , then what point do dmg caster have? there is no spell on par with this.

01-16-2003, 04:00 AM	#10 (permalink)
Destinae Fires of Heaven Officer Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 248 +0 Internets	uh huh

01-16-2003, 06:03 AM	#12 (permalink)
Bear Registered User Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 51 -1 Internets	i doubt i meant the proc.....

01-16-2003, 10:25 AM	#14 (permalink)
Bear Registered User Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 51 -1 Internets	see mister userxxx just because i am wondering what dps caster get in line with that doesnt have to mean i am one of them. oh and what has soloing to do with it?

01-16-2003, 11:39 AM	#15 (permalink)
Velael FEF Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Sen'Jin Posts: 188 -1 Internets	Bear let me clue you in. As EQ currently stands, caster damage >>> melee damage. Frozboz, myself, and some other wizards set out to prove that wizards didn't "suck" in xp groups, like the myth had it. We logged a ton of fights (raids and xp groups - Frozboz did a ton of work comparing himself to the best melees in the game (FoH)). Guess what we found? Not only were we the #1 damage dealers on raids (often by a 2 or 3 to 1 ratio) we also outdamaged any melees over time in xp groups. Casters don't need shit to be brought up to melee level, if anything, pure damage dealing melee could us an increase in power to catch us. Wizards with massive focus, max-FT, and all the AA goodies are just insane damage machines, and that's ignoring Mages and Necros who both are immensely powerful in their own right. I'm not calling for a nerf to my chosen class (and one I've played for 3 years now - in about every environment), but I certainly am not crying because monks will get a badass 2h weapon. I have monk friends, that owns for them.