Elemental Melee/Hybrid Armor effects... - Page 4

Vikki · 01-08-2003, 10:00 AM

Heh how about some Focus effects on hybrid armor too? Be nice to have some Mana Pres/Improved Healing or in the case of other hybrids Improved Damage or something of the like on lesser pieces like arms or something in replacement of that crappy Regeneration effect.

Jareck Thundershot · 01-08-2003, 11:51 AM

I'm still laughing about the guy who wants the lvl 65 ranger self buff to be put on monk legs...

Parv · 01-08-2003, 01:48 PM

The effect discrepancy is pretty stupid between pure melee and hybrid armors. You'd figure they would've learned after the bitching during Kunark. Personally I could live without spells I don't get like Avatar or the leg shield spell if the stats on the warrior armor were significantly better than hybrids'. The difference between the stats now is nothing.

Zorg · 01-08-2003, 11:57 PM

The effect on the beastlord elemental BP(Dumal's Chestwraps of the Brute) is Sha's Revenge, the level 65 65% slow, with a cast time of 3.0.

It's a decent effect, but I'd rather see Ferocity. The mana cost of the slow is low enough to justify casting it with a quicker speed than using the right-click.

Sean · 01-09-2003, 12:23 AM

Melee/Hybrid legs on test are all now Aura of Valor (40 Atk 4 regen).

Melee arms are now Aura of Bravery (30 Atk 3 regen). Hybrid arms are all Vegeance 5 (25 atk) + a Focus effect. Rangers get Improved Damage 4, Paladins Healing 4, SKs Affliction 4.

Melee boots on test are now Aura of Daring (20 atk 2 regen), and Hybrids Vengeance 4 (20 Atk) and Mana Preservation 4.

Melee BPs on test have had their Avatar cast time reduced to 2 seconds from 6 seconds. Personally, I still think the effect sucks, but it's a hell of a lot better now than it was, the cast time reduction makes a huge diff.

Hybrid bps have Koadic's Heightened Focus (5 mana regen) now. Which is an incredibly crappy effect. No clue why the put that on there heh.

Great changes to the Boots, Legs, and Arms though... enough that you can live with the crappy BP effects.

Overall now Melee get +150 atk, 12 regen, EB, See Invis, and Ultravision from a full suit minus Breastplates. Hybrids get 145 Atk, 7 Regen, Mana Pres 4, EB, See Invis, Ultravision, and another focus effect (Imp Damage 4 Rangers, Affliction 4 SKs, Imp Healing 4 Paladins, not sure on Bard/Bst).

Cybsled · 01-09-2003, 03:10 AM

I really dont mind the avatar, especially being 2 sec cast, because I really really hate swapping during fights. Always seems like the damn mob just happens to turn towards me and lay beat downs while im pre-occupied with switching out my weapons for a proc heh.

quechal · 01-09-2003, 04:33 AM

fuck improved affliction on SK arms. give us the improved damage. would be more usefull

Jahve · 01-09-2003, 07:53 AM

Wizard legs got a very nice upgrade! 2 sec Concussion instead of 20 sec Teleport

Jahve · 01-09-2003, 07:56 AM

...Oh yeah and 25% mana pres on the gloves...

Frozboz · 01-09-2003, 08:23 AM

On Strike of Solusek only.

This is how rumors and nerf campaigns start..

Qhue · 01-09-2003, 08:27 AM

which isnt as huge as you might think. Most people who can get these gloves are already romping around with 15% or better manasavings on detrimental spells from mage earrings at least if not a better focus effect from VT.

Its just a boost in the mana efficiency of the most used nuke for each class.

Wolfganng_LC · 01-09-2003, 08:52 AM

well i am partly dissapointed about the bard changes
they removed FT from our boots and gave us vengance 4...i dunno about you, but imo FT >> vengance for a bard. I prefer to have a quicker refresh of fading memories than more atk.
One thing im liking is that now they put instrument modifiers in the armor pieces (omg could they have heard my pleas hehe). Now, this is awesome, but i think a higher mod than epic would have been more prudent. Right now as it stands, it will simply replace epic (1.8 mod), not improve on it.
The effect on the BP falls in line with the "replacing epic" idea. Symphony of Battle, which is basically 60% haste , 50 STR 50 ATK that lasts 5 mins. Looks like a direct replacement for DotB. Nice, but not great. Can't ask for much i guess seeing as the rest of the BP's are sucking big time in the effects department.

im bitter about the FT ...give us back our mana!!!!!! %#$@

Flamebait · 01-17-2003, 08:40 AM

I thought flowing thought didn't work on bards or some shit.

T'Challa · 01-17-2003, 10:06 AM

FT works on bards, spell/song regen doesn't, as I understand it.

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and another focus effect (Imp Damage 4 Rangers, Affliction 4 SKs, Imp Healing 4 Paladins, not sure on Bard/Bst).

I don't know about bards either, but when I last checked beastlords had spell haste IV on the arms.

01-08-2003, 11:51 AM	#47 (permalink)
Jareck Thundershot Registered User Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 15 -1 Internets	I'm still laughing about the guy who wants the lvl 65 ranger self buff to be put on monk legs... __________________

01-08-2003, 01:48 PM	#48 (permalink)
Parv The Dude Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 51 -1 Internets	The effect discrepancy is pretty stupid between pure melee and hybrid armors. You'd figure they would've learned after the bitching during Kunark. Personally I could live without spells I don't get like Avatar or the leg shield spell if the stats on the warrior armor were significantly better than hybrids'. The difference between the stats now is nothing. __________________

01-09-2003, 12:23 AM	#50 (permalink)
Sean Fires of Heaven Officer Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Washington Posts: 5,193 +17 Internets	Melee/Hybrid legs on test are all now Aura of Valor (40 Atk 4 regen). Melee arms are now Aura of Bravery (30 Atk 3 regen). Hybrid arms are all Vegeance 5 (25 atk) + a Focus effect. Rangers get Improved Damage 4, Paladins Healing 4, SKs Affliction 4. Melee boots on test are now Aura of Daring (20 atk 2 regen), and Hybrids Vengeance 4 (20 Atk) and Mana Preservation 4. Melee BPs on test have had their Avatar cast time reduced to 2 seconds from 6 seconds. Personally, I still think the effect sucks, but it's a hell of a lot better now than it was, the cast time reduction makes a huge diff. Hybrid bps have Koadic's Heightened Focus (5 mana regen) now. Which is an incredibly crappy effect. No clue why the put that on there heh. Great changes to the Boots, Legs, and Arms though... enough that you can live with the crappy BP effects. Overall now Melee get +150 atk, 12 regen, EB, See Invis, and Ultravision from a full suit minus Breastplates. Hybrids get 145 Atk, 7 Regen, Mana Pres 4, EB, See Invis, Ultravision, and another focus effect (Imp Damage 4 Rangers, Affliction 4 SKs, Imp Healing 4 Paladins, not sure on Bard/Bst). __________________

01-09-2003, 03:10 AM	#51 (permalink)
Cybsled Registered User Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 9,438 +16 Internets	I really dont mind the avatar, especially being 2 sec cast, because I really really hate swapping during fights. Always seems like the damn mob just happens to turn towards me and lay beat downs while im pre-occupied with switching out my weapons for a proc heh. __________________ Training the citizens of Norrath from 1999-2003!

01-09-2003, 07:53 AM	#53 (permalink)
Jahve Registered User Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Denmark Posts: 5 +0 Internets	Wizard legs got a very nice upgrade! 2 sec Concussion instead of 20 sec Teleport __________________ [Arcanist] Jahve The Companions - The Tribunal -

01-08-2003, 10:00 AM	#46 (permalink)
Vikki Vikki Scores a critical hit!(121) Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 105 -1 Internets	Heh how about some Focus effects on hybrid armor too? Be nice to have some Mana Pres/Improved Healing or in the case of other hybrids Improved Damage or something of the like on lesser pieces like arms or something in replacement of that crappy Regeneration effect.

01-08-2003, 11:57 PM	#49 (permalink)
Zorg Registered User Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 37 -1 Internets	The effect on the beastlord elemental BP(Dumal's Chestwraps of the Brute) is Sha's Revenge, the level 65 65% slow, with a cast time of 3.0. It's a decent effect, but I'd rather see Ferocity. The mana cost of the slow is low enough to justify casting it with a quicker speed than using the right-click.

01-09-2003, 04:33 AM	#52 (permalink)
quechal Registered User Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 20 -1 Internets	fuck improved affliction on SK arms. give us the improved damage. would be more usefull

01-09-2003, 07:56 AM	#54 (permalink)
Jahve Registered User Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Denmark Posts: 5 +0 Internets	...Oh yeah and 25% mana pres on the gloves... __________________ [Arcanist] Jahve The Companions - The Tribunal -

01-09-2003, 08:23 AM	#55 (permalink)
Frozboz Banned Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 38 +0 Internets	On Strike of Solusek only. This is how rumors and nerf campaigns start..

01-09-2003, 08:27 AM	#56 (permalink)
Qhue Tunare's most surly gnome Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Sunny Upstate NY Posts: 988 +4 Internets	which isnt as huge as you might think. Most people who can get these gloves are already romping around with 15% or better manasavings on detrimental spells from mage earrings at least if not a better focus effect from VT. Its just a boost in the mana efficiency of the most used nuke for each class.

01-09-2003, 08:52 AM	#57 (permalink)
Wolfganng_LC Best guitar player on EQ...ever Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 28 -1 Internets	well i am partly dissapointed about the bard changes they removed FT from our boots and gave us vengance 4...i dunno about you, but imo FT >> vengance for a bard. I prefer to have a quicker refresh of fading memories than more atk. One thing im liking is that now they put instrument modifiers in the armor pieces (omg could they have heard my pleas hehe). Now, this is awesome, but i think a higher mod than epic would have been more prudent. Right now as it stands, it will simply replace epic (1.8 mod), not improve on it. The effect on the BP falls in line with the "replacing epic" idea. Symphony of Battle, which is basically 60% haste , 50 STR 50 ATK that lasts 5 mins. Looks like a direct replacement for DotB. Nice, but not great. Can't ask for much i guess seeing as the rest of the BP's are sucking big time in the effects department. im bitter about the FT ...give us back our mana!!!!!! %#$@ __________________ Wolfganng Lotus Cult Quellious

01-17-2003, 08:40 AM	#58 (permalink)
Flamebait Registered User Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 30 -1 Internets	I thought flowing thought didn't work on bards or some shit.

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