Battleground level scaling

Kreugen · 10-18-2009, 06:04 PM

This is a bit of a "well, duh?" post but.. why does WoW not scale up player levels for battlegrounds? With 4.0 getting rid of ability ranks, it seems obvious and natural. Is there a downside I'm missing?

I admit, leading in every category on my 31 hunter was pretty amusing, but scaling would be especially nice in AV where you are flat out fucked when on the low end of the level scale.

It worked well in Warhammer and AOC.

Lyenae · 10-18-2009, 06:11 PM

It didn't really work well in Warhammer. You were not given the level locked abilities for those scaled levels, and people over the scale were not brought down.

Kreugen · 10-18-2009, 06:29 PM

Well it sure as hell helped. In the 1-10 bg you could rock the place as a level 2 ;p

Torrid · 10-18-2009, 06:55 PM

You don't go far enough. I've been calling for a handicap for the faction that outgears the other for years. Gear is for all intents and purposes a second level, so BGs at the level cap are more often than not heavily lopsided, resulting in slaughters that are boring for both sides.

The irony is I used to play in the bracket below the top bracket a lot on an alt because the games were MORE balanced there.

Sutekh · 10-18-2009, 08:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Kreugen

Well it sure as hell helped. In the 1-10 bg you could rock the place as a level 2 ;p

But you also stood a snowballs chance in hell against a level 10, it was a good system.

Chanur · 10-18-2009, 10:29 PM

What I would like to see is them go back to the old system where the horde are not starting every game with 1/3 the numbers of the alliance. Just let em cry about their queues.

Kreugen · 10-18-2009, 11:55 PM

Once you enter a battleground, you leave your other queues, period. But we've been down that road, and the tards were the loudest.

kuldiin · 10-18-2009, 11:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Lyenae

It didn't really work well in Warhammer. You were not given the level locked abilities for those scaled levels, and people over the scale were not brought down.

In the latest WAR patch, they now buff everyone in T1 upto level 11, and boy is it fun. As a level 2 Shadow Warrior I was doing almost twice as much damage as most people in scenarios, and leveling at a very fast pace.

titan_atlas · 10-18-2009, 11:57 PM

Hopefully they learn to just give Xp at the highest lvl IE 29/39/49 available for that bracket.Make it actually encourage leveling in there in the first 5 levels for better xp LOL.

Kreugen · 10-19-2009, 02:19 AM

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Originally Posted by kuldiin

In the latest WAR patch, they now buff everyone in T1 upto level 11, and boy is it fun. As a level 2 Shadow Warrior I was doing almost twice as much damage as most people in scenarios, and leveling at a very fast pace.

Yeah it never made sense how it didn't scale you to the top of the tier.

Lyenae · 10-19-2009, 05:15 AM

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Originally Posted by kuldiin

In the latest WAR patch,.

That game is still alive?

Miele · 10-19-2009, 06:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Kreugen

Once you enter a battleground, you leave your other queues, period. But we've been down that road, and the tards were the loudest.

I think the problem is that the game counts you as partecipant before you even accept the prompt, so if you miss the huge 10 seconds window to accept, your side is fucked for a while. There is no other explanation and I'm not talking about people leaving after they are in the bg (for another, for afk, etc.) but the fact that my side too often starts outnumbered 2:1 because they don't enter quickly enough.

I queued up with my wife once, level 6x bg, we were ungrouped, we both got the prompt, I didn't accept in time and they started an AB game with one less. Maybe it's not a solid proof, but it's what I witnessed first hand.

kuldiin · 10-19-2009, 08:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Lyenae

That game is still alive?

When its almost 100 people in T1 fighting Id say so.......

vouskaine · 10-19-2009, 12:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Lyenae

That game is still alive?

dumbdumbdumbdumb.

Lyenae · 10-19-2009, 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by kuldiin

When its almost 100 people in T1 fighting Id say so.......

Do they let you freeze your xp bar yet?

10-18-2009, 06:04 PM	#1 (permalink)
Kreugen Fires of Heaven Ancient Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 3,135 +71 Internets	Battleground level scaling This is a bit of a "well, duh?" post but.. why does WoW not scale up player levels for battlegrounds? With 4.0 getting rid of ability ranks, it seems obvious and natural. Is there a downside I'm missing? I admit, leading in every category on my 31 hunter was pretty amusing, but scaling would be especially nice in AV where you are flat out fucked when on the low end of the level scale. It worked well in Warhammer and AOC. Last edited by Kreugen; 10-18-2009 at 11:54 PM..

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10-18-2009, 06:11 PM	#2 (permalink)
Lyenae Registered User Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 2,664 -103 Internets	It didn't really work well in Warhammer. You were not given the level locked abilities for those scaled levels, and people over the scale were not brought down.

10-18-2009, 06:29 PM	#3 (permalink)
Kreugen Fires of Heaven Ancient Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 3,135 +71 Internets	Well it sure as hell helped. In the 1-10 bg you could rock the place as a level 2 ;p

10-18-2009, 06:55 PM	#4 (permalink)
Torrid Registered User Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 1,266	You don't go far enough. I've been calling for a handicap for the faction that outgears the other for years. Gear is for all intents and purposes a second level, so BGs at the level cap are more often than not heavily lopsided, resulting in slaughters that are boring for both sides. The irony is I used to play in the bracket below the top bracket a lot on an alt because the games were MORE balanced there.

10-18-2009, 10:29 PM	#6 (permalink)
Chanur Registered User Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Washington Posts: 1,349 -20 Internets	What I would like to see is them go back to the old system where the horde are not starting every game with 1/3 the numbers of the alliance. Just let em cry about their queues.

10-18-2009, 11:55 PM	#7 (permalink)
Kreugen Fires of Heaven Ancient Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 3,135 +71 Internets	Once you enter a battleground, you leave your other queues, period. But we've been down that road, and the tards were the loudest.

10-18-2009, 11:57 PM	#9 (permalink)
titan_atlas Manwhore Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 422 -1 Internets	Hopefully they learn to just give Xp at the highest lvl IE 29/39/49 available for that bracket.Make it actually encourage leveling in there in the first 5 levels for better xp LOL.