All the big MMO's getting sued. - Page 3

Itzena · 09-19-2009, 02:18 PM

Thing is, all it's going to take is one of these companies to go "You know what? Fuck it, let's fight this thing all the way" and the people bringing the case will shit themselves. They're in it for the quick settlement, not Blactivizzard or Sony going all Phoenix Wright on them.

Venjenz · 09-19-2009, 06:44 PM

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It's the only way to be sure.

Well played, sir.

Manatra · 09-19-2009, 06:51 PM

It's too bad IBM isn't involved, their lawyers are like the Nazgul. Always fun to see someone try to fuck IBM and get torn apart (hi2u2 SCO).

Pancreas · 09-21-2009, 07:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Itzena

Thing is, all it's going to take is one of these companies to go "You know what? Fuck it, let's fight this thing all the way" and the people bringing the case will shit themselves. They're in it for the quick settlement, not Blactivizzard or Sony going all Phoenix Wright on them.

That's what the tobacco companies do. They take every single law suit, no matter how trivial, all the way to the supreme court. It's a pretty effective deterrent knowing you are going to have to invest a minimum of 15 years and too much money to see anything.

All these frivolous lawsuits would disappear overnight if American courts made the losing side of any case responsible for the legal fees of the winning side, in addition to any damages.

Suddenly the whole tactic of filing a complaint just to settle it for less than the cost of a trial goes away.

Of course most attorneys use that tactic to fund their larger lawsuits.
1.) Sue EVERYONE that has ever lived within a 50 mile radius of the crime/ incident.
2.) Settle 90% of them.
3.) Use that money to go after the people responsible.
4.) Profit

So with the foxes guarding the hen house it's not like that is going to change anytime soon.

yoshimura · 09-21-2009, 08:54 AM

I lol'd @ those patents

Common sense is definately not part of the dictionary in TX.

AladainAF · 09-21-2009, 09:57 AM

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Common sense is definately not part of the dictionary in East TX.

Fixed.

Warrian · 09-21-2009, 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by yoshimura

Common sense is definitely not part of the dictionary in East TX.

Fixed.

Fixed.

The Ancient · 09-21-2009, 02:13 PM

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Fixed.

Foggy · 09-21-2009, 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Pancreas

That's what the tobacco companies do. They take every single law suit, no matter how trivial, all the way to the supreme court. It's a pretty effective deterrent knowing you are going to have to invest a minimum of 15 years and too much money to see anything.

All these frivolous lawsuits would disappear overnight if American courts made the losing side of any case responsible for the legal fees of the winning side, in addition to any damages.

Suddenly the whole tactic of filing a complaint just to settle it for less than the cost of a trial goes away.

Of course most attorneys use that tactic to fund their larger lawsuits.
1.) Sue EVERYONE that has ever lived within a 50 mile radius of the crime/ incident.
2.) Settle 90% of them.
3.) Use that money to go after the people responsible.
4.) Profit

So with the foxes guarding the hen house it's not like that is going to change anytime soon.

Walmart does the same thing. If a corporation has to the money it is by far the best approach to litigation.

Making the loser pay the fees of the winner is a double edged sword. Sure, you get rid of some frivolous lawsuits but you also bar a lot of legitimate lawsuits at the same time. The poor cannot afford to take a chance on paying the winner's fees so they would never bring a suit. Also, it punishes people for the law being one big gray orgy. Nothing is clear and you really don't know how a court is going to rule until after the case has had its day in court. Hell, look at recent Supreme Court decisions about proper complaints, they just reversed their own precedent! The American system basically decided it will deal with the frivolous crap so the least amount of people are economically barred from having their day in court as possible. (Of course lawyers and court fees are still ridiculous)

Rayne, in these large lawsuits with several huge corporations, the majority of fees occur before you even go to trial. Discovery costs a massive amount for these kinds of cases. Not to mention, most of them already have their lawyers on the payroll. But ya, they won't settle, it is bad for business.

Jedite · 09-21-2009, 02:51 PM

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It's too bad IBM isn't involved, their lawyers are like the Nazgul. Always fun to see someone try to fuck IBM and get torn apart (hi2u2 SCO).

We have the answers to your problems IBM.... Its called DOS! We don't want to sell it to you, we want to License it to you.

IBM response: "Well money is in the hardware, so OK!"

The lawyers might be great, but the Execs are complete retards.

Northerner · 09-21-2009, 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Jedite

We have the answers to your problems IBM.... Its called DOS! We don't want to sell it to you, we want to License it to you.

IBM response: "Well money is in the hardware, so OK!"

The lawyers might be great, but the Execs are complete retards.

Hindsight is 20/20 and all that but really, IBM wasn't the only one with this opinion at the time. Hell, even Gates has some quite hilarious quotes from that era.

tibbar · 09-23-2009, 12:33 AM

Similar to the blackberry patent
Settlement reached in BlackBerry patent case - BlackBerry Battle- msnbc.com
Cliffs from a class where we talked about it briefly:
Some guy patents the idea to have a way to gather information from one source on the fly, patent buying firm buys his patent, he dies, everyone forgets about the patent, In Motion creates blackberry, few years later the patent buying firm sues them for violating the patent.

haiku · 09-23-2009, 04:05 AM

when I lived in NYC I worked with Paltalk people... we were their ad firm.

in my experience, the limits of ethics are generally tested by the marketers, but in this case we had to talk them out of many money making ideas that were too raw for public consumption. this is classic in perspective

on the side, my GF worked for Madoff.

Must be some kind of shiva vibe.

Ephron · 09-23-2009, 09:28 AM

servers are back up per the server page.

Bloodget · 09-23-2009, 01:22 PM

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servers are back up per the server page.

uh?

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Manatra Registered User Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 385 +2 Internets	It's too bad IBM isn't involved, their lawyers are like the Nazgul. Always fun to see someone try to fuck IBM and get torn apart (hi2u2 SCO).

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tibbar Registered User Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 84 +18 Internets	Similar to the blackberry patent Settlement reached in BlackBerry patent case - BlackBerry Battle- msnbc.com Cliffs from a class where we talked about it briefly: Some guy patents the idea to have a way to gather information from one source on the fly, patent buying firm buys his patent, he dies, everyone forgets about the patent, In Motion creates blackberry, few years later the patent buying firm sues them for violating the patent.