Next Everquest installment: Everquest "Next". - Page 4

Hatorade · 08-14-2009, 12:59 PM

The could take some cue's from some of the low to mid range dungeons in VG, if you could make it deep enough never saw anyone else because that was an achievement.

Vilgan · 08-14-2009, 01:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Zehn - Vhex

You know, I never understood why social dungeons were considered a good thing. I mean, I know why the socially inept enjoy everybody being forced to group with them so they don't have to try and make friends.

But it always seemed odd to me that dungeons in EQ might as well have had a coat room and a bar so people could get drunk while they waited for a table to become available in the main dining room.

Huh? Might be an EQ vs EQ2 thing as EQ had that issue when I played it. But in EQ2, every single public dungeon I've done involved 0 camping and 0 waiting for that certain spot I want to open up thing. Groups I've been in (and every group I've seen) moves around the dungeon clearing as we go. We might cycle by a certain spot a few times if we are in there for a while (especially KC which is super tiny) but I think I've spent a total of about 20 minutes sitting around waiting for a spawn in public dungeons in EQ2 total.

It also seems like they've mostly gotten away from the "kill the PH 93048234 times to get the named" concept which is nice. There is still the occasional PH mob, but you might kill it once or two to get the named instead of 10 or 20. Also, quests will usually accept the PH now.. like the epic quests you can kill the named OR its PH for the update.

Sithro · 08-14-2009, 01:05 PM

I don't mind instancing. I would like to see some non-instanced stuff, though.

Also, make Dragons scary again.

Linus · 08-14-2009, 01:06 PM

1. Hire this guy: Scott Hartsman - Off the Record

2. Do whatever the fuck he says.

3. Profit ??

Genjiro · 08-14-2009, 01:17 PM

Comes down to content. The idea of social dungeons and overcrowding is a non issue as long as there are alternatives and enough content. Vanilla EQ funneled everyone into 1 or 2 dungeons like Guk/Solb or Seb/HS and so forth. Vanguard had the right idea with this, but they ran out of time and had empty dungeons that weren't itemized and looked like they were thrown together in about 10 minutes. If there are enough places to go that have good loot and not shitty drops (Droga/Nurga etc in Kunark were empty because of this), its fine.

Tide · 08-14-2009, 01:20 PM

EQ2 was a real disappointment for me. I guess I also had EQ too much in mind. Going back after all of Gallenite's great work and for the Kelethin expansion a couple of times. Still just bleh. "Over regulated, cosmetically poor" agree on all sadly. It was just dull and disconnected game play. But here's hoping for v3.

Jorren · 08-14-2009, 01:31 PM

Keep racial starting cities please. Less quest hub, more exploration to find stuff. Leave the cookie cutters in the cupboard too please.

Tortfeasor · 08-14-2009, 01:32 PM

Copy/paste Vanguard classes, make combat less spammy and have encounters be more strategic/script based, be focused on group content. Have 20% solo content with maybe 20% raid content.

/profit

Pyros · 08-14-2009, 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Tortfeasor

Copy/paste Vanguard classes, make combat less spammy and have encounters be more strategic/script based, be focused on group content. Have 20% solo content with maybe 20% raid content.

/profit

You mean combat less spammy than VG or EQ2? Cause I thought combat in VG was pretty close to perfect for a mmo. Spellqueue to make it less spammy maybe. Also keep moving while casting. Really, they just need to make a new VG, but this time with a good engine and some solid endgame, and chances people would be all over it.

Tortfeasor · 08-14-2009, 01:46 PM

Less spammy than eq2. I liked Vanguard combat alot and their classes are some of the best in any mmo.

Rayne · 08-14-2009, 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Lyenae

There will be only 2 possibilities for this: Total failure or total success.

If they actually use their station access IP collection (aka MMO graveyard) as a research tool as to what works/what doesn't, capitalize upon why EQ2 failed and EQ succeeded, and give this project as much time and $ as needed, this will be an epic MMO.

If they shoot shots in the dark, or fall short of anything mentioned in success, this will drop like a stone and kill SOE off completely.

I wholeheartedly agree. If they want to break the WoW cookie in two, they really can't afford to half-ass this.

Clericnon2boxed · 08-14-2009, 01:50 PM

make it Everquest 40k, a scifi and fantasy mix in the world of norrath

Rayne · 08-14-2009, 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Clericnon2boxed

make it Everquest 40k, a scifi and fantasy mix in the world of norrath

LOL.... i'd play that shit forever

Supacheal · 08-14-2009, 01:55 PM

I say keep experience loss so the retards can stay low level and play with the other retards. Also keep KS'ing so I can roll a weezard and KS the arch magi by chain casting ice comet. There is nothing like a drama filled Lower Guk on a Saturday night!

Look out for the obligatory ogre blocking the Sol B entrance and keeping everyone from escaping the LDC train to zone!

All of the fun aspects of EQ1 will never be accepted by the masses again.

Azrayne · 08-14-2009, 02:22 PM

Figure out how much money you'll need to make the game, then gain an extra 50% on that in funding.

This 'drag the dev process out over 4 years constantly changing core facets of the game then releasing it completely unfinished at the last moment because you run out of money' bullshit HAS. TO. STOP.

This genre is fucked until companies start refusing to release games until they're finished.

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Hatorade Cause it's better than water Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 10,216 +79 Internets	The could take some cue's from some of the low to mid range dungeons in VG, if you could make it deep enough never saw anyone else because that was an achievement. __________________ Wii Friend Code 1729 2890 3780 7210 AION group Last edited by Hatorade; 08-14-2009 at 02:03 PM..

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Genjiro We bawlin boi! Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 3,818	Comes down to content. The idea of social dungeons and overcrowding is a non issue as long as there are alternatives and enough content. Vanilla EQ funneled everyone into 1 or 2 dungeons like Guk/Solb or Seb/HS and so forth. Vanguard had the right idea with this, but they ran out of time and had empty dungeons that weren't itemized and looked like they were thrown together in about 10 minutes. If there are enough places to go that have good loot and not shitty drops (Droga/Nurga etc in Kunark were empty because of this), its fine. __________________ Genjiro--Legacy of Steel--EQ1 sexy monk (retired) Entreri--Guildleader of Ardent Legion--EQ2 (retired) "The men the American public admire most extravagantly are the most daring liars; the men they detest most violently are those who try to tell them the truth." -- H.L. Mencken Last edited by Genjiro; 08-14-2009 at 01:20 PM..

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Tide grindlexic Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: darkest Seattle Posts: 81 +0 Internets	EQ2 was a real disappointment for me. I guess I also had EQ too much in mind. Going back after all of Gallenite's great work and for the Kelethin expansion a couple of times. Still just bleh. "Over regulated, cosmetically poor" agree on all sadly. It was just dull and disconnected game play. But here's hoping for v3. Last edited by Tide; 08-14-2009 at 01:28 PM..

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08-14-2009, 01:06 PM	#49 (permalink)
Linus had the chance to ask the world to dance Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Midlothian Posts: 248 +2 Internets	1. Hire this guy: Scott Hartsman - Off the Record 2. Do whatever the fuck he says. 3. Profit ??

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Jorren gomi no sensei Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 72 +0 Internets	Keep racial starting cities please. Less quest hub, more exploration to find stuff. Leave the cookie cutters in the cupboard too please.

08-14-2009, 01:32 PM	#53 (permalink)
Tortfeasor Registered User Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Lexington Posts: 609 -9 Internets	Copy/paste Vanguard classes, make combat less spammy and have encounters be more strategic/script based, be focused on group content. Have 20% solo content with maybe 20% raid content. /profit

08-14-2009, 01:46 PM	#55 (permalink)
Tortfeasor Registered User Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Lexington Posts: 609 -9 Internets	Less spammy than eq2. I liked Vanguard combat alot and their classes are some of the best in any mmo.

08-14-2009, 01:55 PM	#59 (permalink)
Supacheal Registered User Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 36 -4 Internets	I say keep experience loss so the retards can stay low level and play with the other retards. Also keep KS'ing so I can roll a weezard and KS the arch magi by chain casting ice comet. There is nothing like a drama filled Lower Guk on a Saturday night! Look out for the obligatory ogre blocking the Sol B entrance and keeping everyone from escaping the LDC train to zone! All of the fun aspects of EQ1 will never be accepted by the masses again.

08-14-2009, 02:22 PM	#60 (permalink)
Azrayne Registered User Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Awsome Posts: 2,725	Figure out how much money you'll need to make the game, then gain an extra 50% on that in funding. This 'drag the dev process out over 4 years constantly changing core facets of the game then releasing it completely unfinished at the last moment because you run out of money' bullshit HAS. TO. STOP. This genre is fucked until companies start refusing to release games until they're finished.