Planetside Server Merge - Page 2

Cinge · 07-28-2009, 02:49 PM

Hmm free play for a month. Re-installing. See what's changed. Edit: Guess, not , wont run on Vista or Windows 7, even with all the compatibility changes, either crashes right after hitting play, or right after loading sanctuary. oh well.

Like said above, nothing will beat the experience of beta/launch of days on end bridge battles, or all 3 factions trying to take one base for hours on end. The scale of the battles and the amount of people involved was just insane.

First time I saw a OS, i just stood there looking up into it, like wtf is that ? and Died promptly after with about 20 of my fellows

schwein · 07-28-2009, 04:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brekk

God I might have to download and play some. This is the only game I've ever played thats trumped my EQ experiences nostalgia wise. It was just such a completely un-comparable experience to any other game to date.

WTB Planetside 2

so many things about Planetside where done so well and no one is stealing their ideas.

several games i thought where going to be planetside replacements but so far all seemed to fall very short.

just like so many people want to play old world EQ again. i would love to have a pre core combat planetside server.

Xenrauk · 07-28-2009, 05:16 PM

For vista users, can try reading this thread to see if you can get it running...

The DX10/Vista Discussion thread

P.S Still wishing for a starcraft mmofps copy of planetside.

Kodylan · 07-28-2009, 08:03 PM

Cinge - You probably changed the settings on the station launcher portion. You need to go into your PS install directory and change the settings on Planetside.exe.

Cinge · 07-28-2009, 09:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Kodylan

Cinge - You probably changed the settings on the station launcher portion. You need to go into your PS install directory and change the settings on Planetside.exe.

Aye I changed the shortcut and exe settings, just crashes on me.

Was doing it from Windows 7 boot, going to try from vista boot

I hate going back now, windows 7 is just so nice.

Kodylan · 07-28-2009, 11:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Cinge

Aye I changed the shortcut and exe settings, just crashes on me.

Was doing it from Windows 7 boot, going to try from vista boot

I hate going back now, windows 7 is just so nice.

Ah, yeah. I haven't tried on Windows 7. Vista running the exe as Windows 95 compatibility with the 3 visual options checked (to disable them) allows it to run on Vista 64 for sure.

Calroon · 07-29-2009, 01:50 AM

Installed it as well and got it running on Vista (sort of stable, 1 crash in 3 days).
Certainly feels good to play again, to bad there wont be a PS2.

Population seems to be alright with only 2 servers now, but it's still not as massive as it once was.
A lot of players will probably drop again once the free play is over, just leave it free to play

Grizzlebeard · 07-29-2009, 01:58 AM

According to SOE's account info I've never played the game or have any subscription history for it. Kind of confusing when I do a search and see my BR14 Terran guy still on their database. Guess no free play for me.

Neric · 07-29-2009, 03:13 AM

Currently there is some action on Werner because of the free reactivation. The game is still fun to play even though the ballance issues are obvious and there aren't those full scale battles anymore, so the experience isn't quite the same.

What I find interesting is the SoE subscription philosophy on this game. They raised the price from $12.99 to §14.99 back in 2007. The game doesn't run cleanly under Vista (needs win95/98 compatibility mode), there haven't been any major updates for years and the playerbase is shrinking constantly.

I mean it is obvious that they don't expect new customers, so they decided to milk the old ones to death, but is this really the best option? I know for a fact that there are players who would play the game if it was cheaper. Most people are simply refusing to pay 1st class subscription rates for a game that is way over the peak.

I would pay as much as $ 4.99/month to play this game, alternatively I would buy a lifetime sub for some reasonable price. In terms of profit, that's certainly better than nothing for SoE. Nothing is unfortunately all they'll get from me once the free time runs out and they don't change their pollicy on this issue.

Vilgan · 07-29-2009, 03:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Neric

Currently there is some action on Werner because of the free reactivation. The game is still fun to play even though the ballance issues are obvious and there aren't those full scale battles anymore, so the experience isn't quite the same.

What I find interesting is the SoE subscription philosophy on this game. They raised the price from $12.99 to §14.99 back in 2007. The game doesn't run cleanly under Vista (needs win95/98 compatibility mode), there haven't been any major updates for years and the playerbase is shrinking constantly.

I mean it is obvious that they don't expect new customers, so they decided to milk the old ones to death, but is this really the best option? I know for a fact that there are players who would play the game if it was cheaper. Most people are simply refusing to pay 1st class subscription rates for a game that is way over the peak.

I would pay as much as $ 4.99/month to play this game, alternatively I would buy a lifetime sub for some reasonable price. In terms of profit, that's certainly better than nothing for SoE. Nothing is unfortunately all they'll get from me once the free time runs out and they don't change their pollicy on this issue.

SOE has repeatedly shown themselves blind to the "lower price -> more subs/purchases/etc" concept. Instead of getting 50 cents x2938492 for xp potions in EQ2, they'd rather get 3% as many people purchasing them for $3. Instead of charging $22 or so for the premium "get access to everything" subscription they'd rather get $30 from the 10% who will pay $30. Wtf, to even break even you need to be playing 2 of the "big" MMOs full time. Meh. $14.99 (or anything higher than $7.99 imo) is just stupid for Planetside. I bet the price is there though to convince people that the $30 for access to all of Sony's games is worth it.

There is a reason that all the F2P games that make it offer useful stuff for really really cheap. Like Travian... it'd take me 3-4 months to blow through $60 worth of gold. However, the benefits were tangible and each time I activated a "cool thing" it'd only cost me like a nickel which made it really easy to justify. Oh well, I guess its a good thing though as it keeps me from being interested in the premium sub or any of the "micro" transactions.

Neric · 07-29-2009, 04:06 AM

Yes, it is actually amazing how many poor marketing decisions they make. Since I am sure that they get their basic math on how to determine the price right, the quality of the surveys that they base their decisions on must be abysmal.

Kharza-kzad · 07-29-2009, 05:20 AM

Doesn't run for me alas, in vista64.

It's a real crash without all the compatability stuff, trying to do a fld from a bad spot of memory, with compat stuff on it's an assertion.

Skipping around the assert it crashes in a function that is passed a struct and tries to grab something 44 bytes in, then does a zero extended load of a couple regs maybe for a 64 bit time value? After that is a bunch of float math that looks like a plane ray intersections maybe, couple vector subtracts and a dot product. I dunno.

edit oops, me stupid, had it set to xp instead of 98 ^_^

Kidriot69 · 07-29-2009, 10:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brekk

God I might have to download and play some. This is the only game I've ever played thats trumped my EQ experiences nostalgia wise. It was just such a completely un-comparable experience to any other game to date.

WTB Planetside 2

Agree. Next to EQ, I did many days worth of played game time LANing it up with my good friends, all on a TS/Ventrilo server with a hundred others. Definently love PS. I personally wish they'd kill it off. As much as it would hurt to see, I feel they should get a Planetside 2 going...Sadly, nothing has ever been mentioned...

Kodylan · 07-29-2009, 03:54 PM

Why the hell don't they make this game free to play already? Imagine how many people would play it if it were free with the random microtransaction crap like Free Realms has.

Neric · 07-30-2009, 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Kodylan

Why the hell don't they make this game free to play already? Imagine how many people would play it if it were free with the random microtransaction crap like Free Realms has.

Because the game still makes them about $5-6k each month. While this should be peanuts for SoE, someone in the company seems to think that any profit is profit after all.

Personally I agree with you. A game that isn't even compatible with Vista shouldn't cost as much as a regular WoW subscription, especially since the battles - which is what you are paying for after all - are crippled due to low playerbase.

07-28-2009, 02:49 PM	#16 (permalink)
Cinge Gnomercy Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Vegas Baby!! Posts: 441 +1 Internets	Hmm free play for a month. Re-installing. See what's changed. Edit: Guess, not , wont run on Vista or Windows 7, even with all the compatibility changes, either crashes right after hitting play, or right after loading sanctuary. oh well. Like said above, nothing will beat the experience of beta/launch of days on end bridge battles, or all 3 factions trying to take one base for hours on end. The scale of the battles and the amount of people involved was just insane. First time I saw a OS, i just stood there looking up into it, like wtf is that ? and Died promptly after with about 20 of my fellows Last edited by Cinge; 07-28-2009 at 04:13 PM..

07-29-2009, 03:13 AM	#24 (permalink)
Neric <insert funny comment here> Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 1,996 -6 Internets	Currently there is some action on Werner because of the free reactivation. The game is still fun to play even though the ballance issues are obvious and there aren't those full scale battles anymore, so the experience isn't quite the same. What I find interesting is the SoE subscription philosophy on this game. They raised the price from $12.99 to §14.99 back in 2007. The game doesn't run cleanly under Vista (needs win95/98 compatibility mode), there haven't been any major updates for years and the playerbase is shrinking constantly. I mean it is obvious that they don't expect new customers, so they decided to milk the old ones to death, but is this really the best option? I know for a fact that there are players who would play the game if it was cheaper. Most people are simply refusing to pay 1st class subscription rates for a game that is way over the peak. I would pay as much as $ 4.99/month to play this game, alternatively I would buy a lifetime sub for some reasonable price. In terms of profit, that's certainly better than nothing for SoE. Nothing is unfortunately all they'll get from me once the free time runs out and they don't change their pollicy on this issue. __________________ All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident. - Arthur Schopenhauer

07-29-2009, 04:06 AM	#26 (permalink)
Neric <insert funny comment here> Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 1,996 -6 Internets	Yes, it is actually amazing how many poor marketing decisions they make. Since I am sure that they get their basic math on how to determine the price right, the quality of the surveys that they base their decisions on must be abysmal. __________________ All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident. - Arthur Schopenhauer

07-29-2009, 05:20 AM	#27 (permalink)
Kharza-kzad Registered User Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 268 +3 Internets	Doesn't run for me alas, in vista64. It's a real crash without all the compatability stuff, trying to do a fld from a bad spot of memory, with compat stuff on it's an assertion. Skipping around the assert it crashes in a function that is passed a struct and tries to grab something 44 bytes in, then does a zero extended load of a couple regs maybe for a 64 bit time value? After that is a bunch of float math that looks like a plane ray intersections maybe, couple vector subtracts and a dot product. I dunno. edit oops, me stupid, had it set to xp instead of 98 ^_^ Last edited by Kharza-kzad; 07-29-2009 at 05:22 AM..

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07-28-2009, 05:16 PM	#18 (permalink)
Xenrauk SC2 WTFRU! Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 339	For vista users, can try reading this thread to see if you can get it running... The DX10/Vista Discussion thread P.S Still wishing for a starcraft mmofps copy of planetside.

07-28-2009, 08:03 PM	#19 (permalink)
Kodylan Registered User Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 2,261 -1 Internets	Cinge - You probably changed the settings on the station launcher portion. You need to go into your PS install directory and change the settings on Planetside.exe.

07-29-2009, 01:50 AM	#22 (permalink)
Calroon Registered User Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 131 -2 Internets	Installed it as well and got it running on Vista (sort of stable, 1 crash in 3 days). Certainly feels good to play again, to bad there wont be a PS2. Population seems to be alright with only 2 servers now, but it's still not as massive as it once was. A lot of players will probably drop again once the free play is over, just leave it free to play

07-29-2009, 01:58 AM	#23 (permalink)
Grizzlebeard The Littlest Hobo of MMOs Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Blighty! Posts: 844	According to SOE's account info I've never played the game or have any subscription history for it. Kind of confusing when I do a search and see my BR14 Terran guy still on their database. Guess no free play for me.

07-29-2009, 03:54 PM	#29 (permalink)
Kodylan Registered User Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 2,261 -1 Internets	Why the hell don't they make this game free to play already? Imagine how many people would play it if it were free with the random microtransaction crap like Free Realms has.