[WoW] 3.2 - Call of the Crusade

[Azrayne]

Emblem changes are a little absurd, but I'd like to think we're used to Blizzard's love of handing out free loot by now.

BG changes are amazing, but about 4 years overdue. XP in BG's? Twinks in seperate queue's? How did this shit not happen in 2005?

Kind of lolling at the DK changes, anyone who didn't see this coming is a moron. It's how the genre works, release an expansion, include a crazy OP class, then nerf it down 6 - 9 months later when everybody has bought their copy.

[Rusty Dagger]

This patch basically destroys arena. With damage as high as it is now, 5s is a retarded bracket where people drop like flies and it's just about whose side the RNG gods favor in the first 8 seconds of combat which basically leaves 3s and only 3s as the only remotely viable arena bracket. What the fuck is so bad with 2s? It's actually fun. You can bitch and moan about balance all night and day, people ultimately do not give a fuck about it, they want to go in, blow shit up, and have fun. 2s excels at this. S6 moderately revitalized the arena system by letting people have access to more gear (assuming you had the ability to get at least 1600) but S7 undoes all that good work and more. I cannot even imagine the wasteland that will be arena competition in S7. Right now, I'm pretty sure hitting 2k in 5s on some battlegroups is all but impossible due to so few players while top 2s teams are in the 2800s. I doubt anymore but a handful will be buying shoulders next season.

The one shining beacon of hope for this patch is the gigantic buff to twinks (for people who actually give a fuck about real twinking and not just ganking). I might actually play the 29 hunter more often if I know the games are actually going to be fun and moderately challenging and not the 40-0 slaughters that are boring before the first game finishes.

And for all the hullabaloo you all posted about DKs, I if anything think it's a buff to pvp (as I don't give 2 shits about whether or not they can raid tank). I get 2 free points from BotN, litchborne got a major buff, and DW might actually be viable as the number of KM procs will increase substantially. All that's lost is an 8.5% damage loss to frost strike which will suck but still probably be an overall buff.

There's also zero excuse for not upgrading all existing badges. Fuck gems, I have 20k gold I can buy them. I'd much much much rather be able to quickly gear alts. And weapons for badges is long overdue.

[Sylverlokk]

Originally Posted by Heavens_Myst

Wow let's see how many straight patches DKs can get raped in the ass.

You will never catch up to warlocks!

[Goofy]

That badge change is horrible.

To whoever said that they knew guilds that had problems in ulduar with full naxx 25 gear. Sorry but thats the guild's fault.

[Pyros]

I don't really get the badge changes, but as far as I understand, you can basically get the badge gear sooner, doesn't make a big difference, a lot of it isn't really that good and when they release the new raid instance it'll probably be outdated anyway. They're just leveling the differences midway through the expansion instead of just doing it next expansion, by having heroics/entry raiding give access to the last tier. It actually doesn't even feel like such a bad idea, Heroics serve no purpose currently, you can run naxx 25/10 and get so much more, shit is so easy being in full greens isn't even an issue(besides finding a PUG taking your newb ass there).

[Javvo]

Originally Posted by Rusty Dagger

This patch basically destroys arena. With damage as high as it is now, 5s is a retarded bracket where people drop like flies and it's just about whose side the RNG gods favor in the first 8 seconds of combat

If that's true, why do good 5s teams have win ratios in the 80%+ while 60%+ is decent in 2s? You don't know shit and suck at arena anyway.

[Rusty Dagger]

Originally Posted by Javvo

If that's true, why do good 5s teams have win ratios in the 80%+ while 60%+ is decent in 2s? You don't know shit and suck at arena anyway.

First of all, 60% is a gross understatement. Second, when you consider the number of active teams between the 2 brackets, you get your answer. So few teams queue for 5s that the "decent" teams will keep getting pitted up against scrub teams for free wins. Not to mention if you watch pretty much any wcm movie you can see double dps drop someone in seconds. What is it exactly you think 4 dps are going to do?

[Goofy]

Quoted from SA forums that mirrors my sentiments:

The official death knight forums are a cryfest the likes of which has never been seen.

Rationality is absent.

DKs : Deathknights were cooldown tanks and they had other disadvantages to reflect that.
Other Tanks : So what about their absurd hp?

DKs : Deathknights were high hp tanks and they had other disadvantages to reflect that.
Other Tanks : So what about their high threat and dmg?

DKs : Deathknights were supposed to do high threat and dmg and they had other disadvantages to reflect that.
Other Tanks : So what about being the defacto best tank in the game that was favoured for every fight?

DKs : Deathknights were supposed be the best tanks in the game and they had other disadvantages to reflect that.

[Lusiphur]

Originally Posted by Goofy

Quoted from SA forums that mirrors my sentiments:

You sir, are disingenuous at best and meretricous at worst.

The severe gutting of DK tanks is going in with a new content cycle. Surely instead of gutting DK tanking they could have just improved the other tank classes to match DK's then balanced the new content appropriately ? Its a nerf to every aspect of tanking and it is way overboard. No one with an ounce of sense didn't agree that DK's were out of whack but personally I prefer to see people raised to the higher standard than one group singled out for the "hatchet, axe and saw".

[SalaciousTunare]

Originally Posted by Pyros

Combined with the shield block changes, and the various paladin stuff, paladins might very well be the best tanks in 3.2

This is all so that a paladin tanks Arthas...

think about it.

[Torrid]

Originally Posted by Lusiphur

I prefer to see people raised to the higher standard than one group singled out for the "hatchet, axe and saw".

I can't tell if you're joking or not

[Wanand]

As a holy paladin I am not to pleased, I was hoping for more, the beacon change is the only good thing on the list. The FL hot I think we will have to wait and see what it turns out like, the problem I see with it is, the same taget cannot have SS on from diffrent paladins and each paladin can only have 1 SS active at a time, so unless they want us to cast SS everytime we cast FL as raid healing, I just don't see how it is going to work. If the Hot stacks then that is just going to be to overpowered so I cannot see that happening.

How I picture holy paladins in raids now is becaon on tank at all times and just heal the raid with FL/HL, there is no need to cast directly on the tanks now

[Blackulaa]

Originally Posted by Lusiphur

You sir, are disingenuous at best and meretricous at worst.

The severe gutting of DK tanks is going in with a new content cycle. Surely instead of gutting DK tanking they could have just improved the other tank classes to match DK's then balanced the new content appropriately ? Its a nerf to every aspect of tanking and it is way overboard. No one with an ounce of sense didn't agree that DK's were out of whack but personally I prefer to see people raised to the higher standard than one group singled out for the "hatchet, axe and saw".

And as a Blizzard employee might say to you:

"What the F sounds easier to do..."

[Grizzlebeard]

Originally Posted by SalaciousTunare

This is all so that a paladin tanks Arthas...

think about it.

You won't see Arthas for another year. By then the best tank will have probably changed about two to three times.

[Teron D'Amun]

Originally Posted by Zehn - Vhex

Five bucks says they fuck up and it'll works on Iron Council hardmode. Sploit that hard mode while it lasts.

3.2 will remove the proto-drake reward from doing the ulduar achievements, there won't be a point doing steelbreaker last in the first place