[WoW] 3.2 - Call of the Crusade - Page 52

James · 07-09-2009, 07:17 AM

Or a hunter, or whatever, because you really shouldn't need an offtank in 10 man.

The Ancient · 07-09-2009, 08:00 AM

Emalon needs 2 tanks, Archavon needs 1, New boss will need 1 or 2...

Definately not doable on 10 man.

Mmmkeshek · 07-09-2009, 08:03 AM

We already one-tank Emalon in 10man, but the biggest issue (without even knowing what Koralon does) would seem to be tanks getting gibbed during an Archavon stun. I don't see how you could do anything to prevent that, especially since he's rarely on-time before a stun, so you can't really time tank cooldowns for them.

The Ancient · 07-09-2009, 08:13 AM

Well Stomp does have a cast time, you could theoretically use cooldowns for it.

Zehn - Vhex · 07-09-2009, 08:51 AM

You could just tank Arch at low health way the fuck away from everyone. When he picks up the tank he'll just run a bit, throw him out, he taunts and then pulls him back to the no man's land.

The Ancient · 07-09-2009, 08:53 AM

Unless he runs at that tank's healer. Plus is there an actual range on stomp?

James · 07-09-2009, 08:53 AM

You'd need at least a healer who could take some damage.

Ameraves Loyalheart · 07-09-2009, 09:25 AM

Quote:

Quick Trial of the Crusader FAQ:

Q) Where's all the trash?
A) There isn't any in this raid zone. Really.

Q) Where's the loot?
A) Loot is present on the bosses, but note that many of the items do not have final art.

Q) What about achievements?
A) Most of them are not fully implemented yet.

Q) What about the Trial of the Champion (ie the 5 player dungeon)?
A) This will see more extended testing later in the PTR cycle.

Yay for no trash

Heylel Teomim · 07-09-2009, 09:30 AM

No trash makes me think this zone is gonna be a hella fast clear. I'm betting Ulduar is still going to be on the menu for quite some time.

James · 07-09-2009, 09:35 AM

In lieu of trash, you get an epic speech every pull.

EDIT: It's also nice to see them referring to trash as trash instead of "equally interesting, but non-epic dropping non-bosses."

The Ancient · 07-09-2009, 09:36 AM

I'm sorry Arthas, I can't watch you do this.

EDIT: I think they established that here.

Deathwing · 07-09-2009, 10:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Heylel Teomim

No trash makes me think this zone is gonna be a hella fast clear. I'm betting Ulduar is still going to be on the menu for quite some time.

For what reason? Bored? Vastly out-geared achievements?

Azrayne · 07-09-2009, 10:59 AM

Depends on how big a step up the loot is from Ulduar. I imagine it'll be like AQ, good upgrades, but people still wanted/needed stuff from BWL.

Heylel Teomim · 07-09-2009, 11:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Deathwing

For what reason? Bored? Vastly out-geared achievements?

No trash means far shorter clear times unless these are all Kael'Thas style epic fights (which would be cool). Five bosses is well within range of a single night clear even *with* trash. You really think raiders are gonna be satisfied with 1 night of raiding?

You can, at best, get 4 raid IDs out of this. 2 10 man, 2 25 man. I'm betting it will become common to do at least 2 IDs per night pretty fast.

Campa · 07-09-2009, 11:06 AM

If the set pieces are any indication, it is going to be a significant iLvl jump.

My assumption is the 232 items are Normal-10 / 245 are HM-10 : Normal-25 / 258 are HM-25.

If that holds true only piss poor itemization would not result in a pretty much complete gear replacement. Which is sad considered how bad the Tier 9 sets look.

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James You are just another normal! Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 9,389	Or a hunter, or whatever, because you really shouldn't need an offtank in 10 man. __________________ Like a ship without an anchor, like a slave without a chain, just the thought of those sweet ladies sends a shiver through my veins. And I will go on shining, shining like brand new. I'll never look behind me, my troubles will be few. Goodbye stranger, it's been nice. Hope you find your paradise. Tried to see your point of view, hope your dreams will all come true. Goodbye Mary, goodbye Jane, will we ever meet again? Feel no sorrow, feel no shame. Come tomorrow, feel no pain.

07-09-2009, 08:53 AM	#772 (permalink)
James You are just another normal! Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 9,389	You'd need at least a healer who could take some damage. __________________ Like a ship without an anchor, like a slave without a chain, just the thought of those sweet ladies sends a shiver through my veins. And I will go on shining, shining like brand new. I'll never look behind me, my troubles will be few. Goodbye stranger, it's been nice. Hope you find your paradise. Tried to see your point of view, hope your dreams will all come true. Goodbye Mary, goodbye Jane, will we ever meet again? Feel no sorrow, feel no shame. Come tomorrow, feel no pain.

07-09-2009, 09:35 AM	#775 (permalink)
James You are just another normal! Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 9,389	In lieu of trash, you get an epic speech every pull. EDIT: It's also nice to see them referring to trash as trash instead of "equally interesting, but non-epic dropping non-bosses." __________________ Like a ship without an anchor, like a slave without a chain, just the thought of those sweet ladies sends a shiver through my veins. And I will go on shining, shining like brand new. I'll never look behind me, my troubles will be few. Goodbye stranger, it's been nice. Hope you find your paradise. Tried to see your point of view, hope your dreams will all come true. Goodbye Mary, goodbye Jane, will we ever meet again? Feel no sorrow, feel no shame. Come tomorrow, feel no pain.

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07-09-2009, 08:03 AM	#768 (permalink)
Mmmkeshek Registered User Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 73 +3 Internets	We already one-tank Emalon in 10man, but the biggest issue (without even knowing what Koralon does) would seem to be tanks getting gibbed during an Archavon stun. I don't see how you could do anything to prevent that, especially since he's rarely on-time before a stun, so you can't really time tank cooldowns for them.

07-09-2009, 08:51 AM	#770 (permalink)
Zehn - Vhex Lord of the Dance Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 8,797 +166 Internets	You could just tank Arch at low health way the fuck away from everyone. When he picks up the tank he'll just run a bit, throw him out, he taunts and then pulls him back to the no man's land.

07-09-2009, 09:30 AM	#774 (permalink)
Heylel Teomim The Educated Fool Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Atlanta, GA Posts: 2,988 +19 Internets	No trash makes me think this zone is gonna be a hella fast clear. I'm betting Ulduar is still going to be on the menu for quite some time.

07-09-2009, 10:59 AM	#778 (permalink)
Azrayne Registered User Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Awsome Posts: 2,727	Depends on how big a step up the loot is from Ulduar. I imagine it'll be like AQ, good upgrades, but people still wanted/needed stuff from BWL.

07-09-2009, 11:06 AM	#780 (permalink)
Campa Registered User Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Houston, Texas Posts: 228 +0 Internets	If the set pieces are any indication, it is going to be a significant iLvl jump. My assumption is the 232 items are Normal-10 / 245 are HM-10 : Normal-25 / 258 are HM-25. If that holds true only piss poor itemization would not result in a pretty much complete gear replacement. Which is sad considered how bad the Tier 9 sets look.