[WoW] 3.2 - Call of the Crusade

[Zehn - Vhex]

I expect you to die of anal cancer and super aids.

Why are people still whining about 10 man fights being easier then 25 man? What fucking level of retarded are you?

[Deathwing]

Response to Tuco and Suineg:

It is, though. I edited in that last part of my post, so I'll forgive you guys that. The elite guilds didn't down Anub'Arak, so that's going to take some work.

They're overgearing 10 man hard modes. If you follow the progression path(RIGHT, Murr?!?), you're supposed to be doing it, currently, in a mix of regular 10 man TOC and Ulduar 10 regular and hard mode gear. Gear from 25 man TOC regular(and maybe HM this first run) and Ulduar 25 HM is going to help a lot.

Now, someone's going to make me eat my words and post a link that some guild has killed Anub'Arak on 25 HM.


BTW, a lot of guilds have been gearing up twice as fast as normal. I can't say how much for each specific guild, but some of them might be closer to expected gear level to beat an encounter than you'd think(and combine that with ulduar 25 HM being 239).

[Tuco]

Originally Posted by Deathwing

Response to Tuco and Suineg:

It is, though. I edited in that last part of my post, so I'll forgive you guys that. The elite guilds didn't down Anub'Arak, so that's going to take some work.

They're overgearing 10 man hard modes. If you follow the progression path(RIGHT, Murr?!?), you're supposed to be doing it, currently, in a mix of regular 10 man TOC and Ulduar 10 regular and hard mode gear. Gear from 25 man TOC regular(and maybe HM this first run) and Ulduar 25 HM is going to help a lot.

Now, someone's going to make me eat my words and post a link that some guild has killed Anub'Arak on 25 HM.


BTW, a lot of guilds have been gearing up twice as fast as normal. I can't say how much for each specific guild, but some of them might be closer to expected gear level to beat an encounter than you'd think(and combine that with ulduar 25 HM being 239).

How can they gear up twice as fast? Do you mean they've been running two groups and only gearing up half the raid?

If so that's a good idea we should do that hmm.

[Ao-]

Originally Posted by Tuco

How can they gear up twice as fast? Do you mean they've been running two groups and only gearing up half the raid?

If so that's a good idea we should do that hmm.

It's an idea as old as MC!

[regret]

Paid faction change is live, with paid race change in the works apparently.

[Tuco]

can't wait to change my race from dwarven to human.

I went dwarf for four reasons:
1. Stoneform
2. Desperate prayer
3. Fear Ward
4. Treasure Finding

All four of these got nerfed with zero buffs to dwarfs. Humans OTOH get everyman...

[Kuriin]

So, if you soft reset after engaging Anub'arak, the NPC will not respawn and the floor will reappear. How fun.

[brekk]

Originally Posted by Tuco

All four of these got nerfed with zero buffs to dwarfs. Humans OTOH get everyman...

Considering how many options there are for good PVP trinkets nowadays Everyman is amazing. On my Ret Pally I PVP with Darkmoon Card: Greatness and the Platinum Disks of Battle. Double offensive trinkets for PVP FTW.

And don't forget Diplomacy, as someone who hates rep grinds its amazing. And weapon specialization for both Swords and Maces, more to choose from then races limited to one weapon type.

[Pyros]

Originally Posted by Tuco

can't wait to change my race from dwarven to human.

And in 6months they start cataclysm balancing and you'll find out humans get nerfed and there's a new race to be and have to change again ^^.

[Brikker]

So do we know yet whether the 25man Heroic chest drops Class-restricted tokens (Vanq/Prot/Conq)?

[Kodylan]

Originally Posted by Tuco

How can they gear up twice as fast? Do you mean they've been running two groups and only gearing up half the raid?

If so that's a good idea we should do that hmm.

People are exploiting raid ID resets and are able to do an instance multiple times a week.

Originally Posted by Brikker

So do we know yet whether the 25man Heroic chest drops Class-restricted tokens (Vanq/Prot/Conq)?

Only the tribute chest after beating Anub'arak will drop the tokens (at least for now, maybe that will change).

[James]

Hopefully it will change.

[Malakriss]

Originally Posted by Tuco

How can they gear up twice as fast? Do you mean they've been running two groups and only gearing up half the raid?

If so that's a good idea we should do that hmm.

ToC25
2 or 3 ToC10
H ToC25
2 or 3 H ToC10
VoA10 Koralon
VoA25 Koralon
ToC5 (xInfinite)
H ToC5
H Daily

Add in Conquest loot from *any* heroic and any flavor of Ulduar you can squeeze out. I would say gear is flowing at least three times as fast as before 3.2

[Goofy]

My guild is doing 3 groups of TOTC 25, using alts mixed with some mains and only giving first dibs to mains while alts get badges/roll on loot that no one wants.

[Rusty Dagger]

Originally Posted by brekk

Considering how many options there are for good PVP trinkets nowadays Everyman is amazing. On my Ret Pally I PVP with Darkmoon Card: Greatness and the Platinum Disks of Battle. Double offensive trinkets for PVP FTW.

You can get a 190ap + pvp effect trinket from WG + let's just say Greatness. EMFH essentially lets you double dip and get the second best trinket. What that trinket is can be debated of course depending on your own preferences and class but they all essentially boil down to some static bonus plus either a proc or an on-use effect. EMFH is thus giving you half a trinket free; arguably less since the static effect heavily outweighs the long term bonus of proc/click effects. In contrast, gnomes and undead gets completely separate (and thus stacking) trinket-like effects, trolls and orcs get a slight cc reduction (the latter getting their own click effect similar to what is lost having to use a pvp trinket), tauren and blood elves get their own short duration cc's, etc, etc. You could argue the point back and forth forever and I love being human, but don't exaggerate. Unless are doing top tier pve content and have access to the best dps or healing trinkets available, the bonus gained from having an extra half-trinket is really fairly small. I've got a Greatness card, but anyone could use that. After that, my trinket options are actually rather bleak. I could get a pseudo-dps trinket from WG (I used the platinum disks) but since 9 times out of 10 that much resilience is overkill I gain basically nothing from being human (190 ap vs resilience + an occasional ap buff is pretty close). I could use Undeath deck which I'm going to try once the 7th rolls around. I could try out the new 256 ap trinket though again 9 times out of 10 I don't need a 4k hp buff on demand since I have a good healer and have nearly 30k base hp anyway. To be perfectly frank, 0.75% expertise is of more use to me than EMFH and orcs get that too plus extra dps from their racial and a reduction on one of the most prevalent CC types.

And don't forget Diplomacy, as someone who hates rep grinds its amazing. And weapon specialization for both Swords and Maces, more to choose from then races limited to one weapon type.

Apples and oranges. PvP != PvE. Reputation means nothing in pvp unless you want battlemaster and you can just as easily get any other weapon type you want whenever you have the option of buying a sword or mace. If you want to say it can help for pve fine but EMFH is mostly garbage there whereas Blood Fury, Command, Berserking, etc all work for both pvp and pve.